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Title: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 12, 2017, 03:57:51 AM
Folks,

Need your insights here..

I find one common issue after oiling a bat or after sanding and oiling. When I try to apply scuff sheet, it just doesnt stick or last even a week due to the oil even if I apply after the oil has dried. Wondering how folks here go about applying a scuff sheet (that sticks) after oiling.

Thanks in advance,
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: jd163 on February 12, 2017, 04:01:35 AM
Give it more time like 3 days after the last coat.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 12, 2017, 04:03:33 AM
Give it more time like 3 days after the last coat.

Its been 3 months since I last oiled, still it doesnt stick.. Maybe it is due to the sanding that the surface doesnt stick well.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: jd163 on February 12, 2017, 04:48:20 AM
Are u using good quality sheets? I never had this problem with UK made sheets.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: i12breakfree on February 12, 2017, 04:56:23 AM
Its been 3 months since I last oiled, still it doesnt stick.. Maybe it is due to the sanding that the surface doesnt stick well.
usually 2-3 days will dry the surface
juts cleanup the face with cloth to remove any oil and then try applying

if all that fails get a new face sheet or even better get a new bat ;)
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Umi on February 12, 2017, 07:54:45 AM
What type of scuff sheets you prefer, the GN extra tec is pretty good
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 12, 2017, 09:41:06 AM
If the scuff sheets are  good quality  and won't stick properly  ive found once the oil is completely dry giving the bat an extremely light  rub with an high numbered grit paper works well  wipe the blade clean though before applying the face sheet.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 12, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
What grade of paper do you finish with?
As crazy as this sounds the blade may be too smooth for the sheet to stick to it.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: tom line on February 12, 2017, 10:50:49 AM
I sand up to 400 minimum sometimes beyond and don't think I've ever had an issue with it sticking the face, a lot comes down to the type of scuff sheet as others have said, the vitas stuff is excellent and hardly needs a day before the sheet will stick after oiling
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Gurujames on February 12, 2017, 10:52:18 AM
Also depends on the amount of oil you put on in the first place. I also use the scuff sheet from Vitas and can vouch for its quality.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: bostoncricketer on February 12, 2017, 03:42:20 PM
Try wiping with a tack cloth
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 12, 2017, 06:47:29 PM
Thanks for the responses all.

I have been using a rather cheap 2 in wide edge tape to put three strips vertically on face of bat to act as scuff sheet. It works fine for non oiled faces, but for oiled faces, wont stick even if i allow it to dry for ever. Maybe got to do with the glue quality of particular edge tape I am using. Will try another face sheet or GN Extratec to see if it fits. Also will see if wiping with some cloth to dry further will help..
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 12, 2017, 06:50:12 PM
If the scuff sheets are  good quality  and won't stick properly  ive found once the oil is completely dry giving the bat an extremely light  rub with an high numbered grit paper works well  wipe the blade clean though before applying the face sheet.

Need to try this little sanding after the oiling to see if it helps..I am sure the very slight oil feel on the face of the bat is causing the glue to not stick, which should be gone by further sanding..I could do with not using a scuff sheet at all but with the amount of moist balls around, feel afraid to use a bat without a scuff sheet..
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 12, 2017, 07:13:59 PM
Need to try this little sanding after the oiling to see if it helps..I am sure the very slight oil feel on the face of the bat is causing the glue to not stick, which should be gone by further sanding..I could do with not using a scuff sheet at all but with the amount of moist balls around, feel afraid to use a bat without a scuff sheet..
Yes slightly rough the blade it should help form a bond.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Cover_Drive on February 13, 2017, 03:18:37 AM
Doesn't scuff sheet and oil, both do same job (prevent dryness by creating a layer)?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 13, 2017, 03:33:53 AM
Doesn't scuff sheet and oil, both do same job (prevent dryness by creating a layer)?
Scuff sheet does more than preventing dryness right- acts as physical barrier to all that is thrown at the bat - from ball, dirt/moisture/grass(these coming from ball as well) etc..in addition, it will prevent chips of wood  from breaking/falling off the surface - but for me biggest benefit is not letting any moisture from wet balls onto the surface of bat..Not that you arent aware of all this  :D
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 13, 2017, 03:37:55 AM
What grade of paper do you finish with?
As crazy as this sounds the blade may be too smooth for the sheet to stick to it.

I used 60 for initial and 150 for final. Actually, the other way round, I guess the rougher it is, the less the scuff tends to stick to (based on my observation that after the rough 60 grit sanding, scuff sheets didnt stick earlier at all and any sheet will stick well on something like plastic which is theoretically equivalent to very fine sanding). Maybe I need to go finer than 150? What is the final sanding size you guys recommend?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Cover_Drive on February 13, 2017, 05:13:17 AM
Scuff sheet does more than preventing dryness right- acts as physical barrier to all that is thrown at the bat - from ball, dirt/moisture/grass(these coming from ball as well) etc..in addition, it will prevent chips of wood  from breaking/falling off the surface - but for me biggest benefit is not letting any moisture from wet balls onto the surface of bat..Not that you arent aware of all this  :D

Haha!! Hush hush mate!

I was just convincing myself not to oil and scuff, because I ALWAYS struggle in sticking the sheet.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 13, 2017, 10:31:34 AM
Probably no help with problem as I don't use scuff but for that finer smoother than a baby's bottom  finish I use a specialist finishing paper called Klingsmoor.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet after oiling
Post by: velvetsky01 on March 18, 2017, 07:31:34 AM
Scuff sheet does more than preventing dryness right- acts as physical barrier to all that is thrown at the bat - from ball, dirt/moisture/grass(these coming from ball as well) etc..in addition, it will prevent chips of wood  from breaking/falling off the surface - but for me biggest benefit is not letting any moisture from wet balls onto the surface of bat..Not that you arent aware of all this  :D

I always that the wood can get too dry under a scuff