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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: GoldenArm on February 22, 2017, 10:57:32 AM
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https://www.vikingcricket.co.uk (https://www.vikingcricket.co.uk)
Just seen this is the new company that IJC are stocking, anyone know anything at all about them? Seem to be so many new ones popping up all the time. Wonder who makes these?
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Branding seems quite influenced by Hammer Cricket, might just be coincidence though.
Their batmaker is listed as one James Dollive, if that means anything to anyone.
EDIT - seemingly he's the guy from JeDi cricket.
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Not saying it's the same guy but I think there a bat maker at Jedi with that name apologies if I am wrong though.
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Not saying it's the same guy but I think there a bat maker at Jedi with that name apologies if I am wrong though.
I sure it's based in that area so would not be surprised if it was as the guy from Jedi as Paul from ijc said they was made by a established bat maker
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Yep - google James Dollive - he has an unfortunate namesake!!!
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I applaud the fact they're trying to keep their prices vaguely sensible at least. I also like the fact in their useful info section they state on looking after your bat you should try to 'avoid excessive mis-timed shots'. If only it were that simple! 😂
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I'm sure James Dollive is batmaker for Jedi
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Bats have a TK-ish sort of look to them, which would make sense as that'e where Jedi apparently get their part mades from.
I did think they were the new Hammer stickers at first glance though... :-[
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Can't say for certain it's the same guy, but JEDi have a batmaker called james Dollive.
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Thor, Odin, Jorvik after the museum in York!. All these new brands, It just doesn't make sense ......
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When I saw the pictures I thought they looked alright. Would be keen to see more of the profiles rather than the stock pictures on the website.
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Lovely that you can already just buy the stickers
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Judging by the toes on a couple of recent new brands and the confirmed link with Jedi on this one, the chap is turning out a fair few bats lately!
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Hi Gents. Yes they are made by James from Jedi as stated on their website.
Viking are stocked at a couple of place like IJC (New) and in The Cricket Asylum as well as being available direct.
We were in discussions with them but we cant decide if they would fall into the non sticker brand category that we work with.
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Guy local to me, his son played with me last year. Made locally at Jedi. He used to distribute for Hammer season before last so assuming thats where the design style has come from.
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When I saw the pictures I thought they looked alright. Would be keen to see more of the profiles rather than the stock pictures on the website.
Couple of lads at my club have them. Profiles are much of a muchness from what I have seen no real difference funny shaped handles almost hexagonal.
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Hammer cricket has pretty much gone off the rails after possible ownership change. Last I checked on Instagram .. Hammer bats are now made by SS apparently.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm174/saravdsrc/Insta_screen_grab_zps4iag2sng.jpg)
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Bats have a TK-ish sort of look to them, which would make sense as that'e where Jedi apparently get their part mades from.
I did think they were the new Hammer stickers at first glance though... :-[
where did you hear this James does have a press but interested where this came from
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Seen Viking gloves on ebay , look nice . Although logo reminds me too much of Canberra Raiders ! :) ;)
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where did you hear this James does have a press but interested where this came from
Yes, I have visited lots of times and there are no part mades.
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where did you hear this James does have a press but interested where this came from
Yes, I have visited lots of times and there are no part mades.
In which case my source of information was incorrect. Good thing I put apparently as I wasn't certain.
I will not reveal who told me because reasons, but thanks to both of you for correcting me.
As a side note - a different contact has just confirmed to me that Jedi do not use part mades. Apologies
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https://www.vikingcricket.co.uk (https://www.vikingcricket.co.uk)
https://www.instagram.com/vikingcricket/ (https://www.instagram.com/vikingcricket/)
Now I'm confused...
??? :-[
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Someone didnt do their research...or doesnt care there's a brand with the same name doing rhe same thing just in a different country
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@Woodyspin I've spoken to the guys behind Viking in the UK, and he has in turn spoken to his lawyer. The Aussie version is apparently a one-man band, and UK Viking's lawyer has advised there's little they can do.
They are aware of the AUS based company, but little to do I'm told
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IJC posted videos of the range and confirmed that they are made by James in yorkshire.
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Hammer cricket has pretty much gone off the rails after possible ownership change. Last I checked on Instagram .. Hammer bats are now made by SS apparently.
So Jason no longer owns the hammer brand? Last time I talked to him, I wanted a UK made Hammer bat which he didn't have in stock but he was getting a bunch of indian made hammer bats. He seemed to suggest that the Indian made bats he was getting were equal or even better than the UK made bat I asked for. For comparison, they were the same price.
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So Jason no longer owns the hammer brand? Last time I talked to him, I wanted a UK made Hammer bat which he didn't have in stock but he was getting a bunch of indian made hammer bats. He seemed to suggest that the Indian made bats he was getting were equal or even better than the UK made bat I asked for. For comparison, they were the same price.
News is that Jason has sold the business to New jersey based retailer ..He is still doing video reviews and they are using his email so regular cricketstoreonline customer dont leave. Jason is very good when it comes to customer service.
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@Woodyspin I've spoken to the guys behind Viking in the UK, and he has in turn spoken to his lawyer. The Aussie version is apparently a one-man band, and UK Viking's lawyer has advised there's little they can do.
They are aware of the AUS based company, but little to do I'm told
Surely though wjen coming up with a brand name you say to yourself... "I wonder if its out there somewhere? Oh yeah in australia, we will have to think again!" Not "(No Swearing Please) the aussies! We will do it anyway"?
Just my view on it
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@Woodyspin I've spoken to the guys behind Viking in the UK, and he has in turn spoken to his lawyer. The Aussie version is apparently a one-man band, and UK Viking's lawyer has advised there's little they can do.
They are aware of the AUS based company, but little to do I'm told
Lol naivety at it's best - would be extremely simple for the AUS brand to get them closed down/impeached
If it was that easy, what would be stopping someone open up a UK version of Laver & Wood?? I might just set up a Hammer Cricket UK whilst I'm at it!
"1. Does the business claiming infringement operate in the same industry as your business? Remember that trademark's guiding principle is "do not confuse the consumer." One of the factors courts look at to determine likelihood of customer confusion is whether the two businesses are in the same industry, regardless of location."
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@Woodyspin I've spoken to the guys behind Viking in the UK, and he has in turn spoken to his lawyer. The Aussie version is apparently a one-man band, and UK Viking's lawyer has advised there's little they can do.
They are aware of the AUS based company, but little to do I'm told
I'm intrigued (and have absolutely no agenda here) - are Viking UK a proper company with multiple employees and a premises dedicated to this particular business? I always perk up when someone dismisses someone else as a 'one man band' when there are so many cricket brands popping up regularly which are disparaged as 'bedroom sticker up brands'.
What for instance separates Viking UK from the dozens of other small brands out there, often run by a single person or two guys, who buy their bats from a maker and sticker them up?
Just curious?
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Seen Viking gloves on ebay , look nice . Although logo reminds me too much of Canberra Raiders ! :) ;)
I was confused too ! The gloves i saw were the aussie Viking brand . According to their instagram they were est 2014 , so were around long enough for Viking u.k to know about ( if they had looked I'm sure they would have discovered it ) ?
For me the logo's are too similar aswell , it's not lke an s.s u.k vs s.s india where the logo's and full brand name are different , this case sits a bit uncomfortably with me t.b.h.
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There kit looks good it doesn't matter who they are where they are they getting great exposure on here 😂😂😂😂
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As far as I know one guy who owns it plus the batmaker he sources from. In his garage
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@Woodyspin I've spoken to the guys behind Viking in the UK, and he has in turn spoken to his lawyer. The Aussie version is apparently a one-man band, and UK Viking's lawyer has advised there's little they can do.
They are aware of the AUS based company, but little to do I'm told
Nothing they can do because Viking Cricket UK was set-up in 2016, whereas the earlier, Australian, Viking brand was set-up in 2013.
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Just looked at the website and every range is Grade 1 willow. Opens up a cans of worms I know but no one can buy just G1 willow so it's internal grading again which means I would guess in simple terms "if we tell a punter everything is grade 1 we can sell lower grades at a mark up' he'll everyone thinks G1 plays better than G2,G3 etc"
Personally nothing new or great about them. pricing in today's terms is sensible I guess
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@Woodyspin I've spoken to the guys behind Viking in the UK, and he has in turn spoken to his lawyer. The Aussie version is apparently a one-man band, and UK Viking's lawyer has advised there's little they can do.
They are aware of the AUS based company, but little to do I'm told
Chris you might want to have a word with them about their stockists page on the website, text regarding IJC under IJC and cricket asylum - https://www.vikingcricket.co.uk/stockists/ (https://www.vikingcricket.co.uk/stockists/)
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Just looked at the website and every range is Grade 1 willow. Opens up a cans of worms I know but no one can buy just G1 willow so it's internal grading again which means I would guess in simple terms "if we tell a punter everything is grade 1 we can sell lower grades at a mark up' he'll everyone thinks G1 plays better than G2,G3 etc"
Personally nothing new or great about them. pricing in today's terms is sensible I guess
Im not sticking up for them as we have no invested interest however only supplying G1 bats is fairly easy. When they ask for their stock from their supplier they just ask for only grade 1.
Its the same when you order a bat and ask for a specific grade, that's what you should get.
I get they have different levels of grade 1 but again this seems to be common place now and in all fairness to them they have put a description of each of the range on the site so its up to the customer if they want to pay a bit more for a bat that looks nicer or not.
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seems to say all g1 but the levels increase with grains
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I'd agree with @TCB on this - for example, if I only wanted to order G1 bats I wouldn't have any issues (this is largely the case too).
I still don't agree with having 3 different grades of grade 1 though
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I'd agree with @TCB on this - for example, if I only wanted to order G1 bats I wouldn't have any issues (this is largely the case too).
I still don't agree with having 3 different grades of grade 1 though
I get what your both saying. I only know what I know from when I was at Salix which is 3 years ago now. G1 is G1 from Wrights for example and we couldn't ask Wrights for just G1. Kenner has to order x number of G2 and G3 bats to be able to order x number of G1 bats. And as far as I know that's still the case for the main willow merchants. If Viking can just get G1 clefts from Jedi and they are prepared to only sell from there cleft range to Viking than I guess you can. My point is still a G1 is just that not 3 ranges of a certain Grade. Maybe I'm wrong or out of date
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I'd imagine like many of these brands who operate in small numbers, many batmakers are OK to supply them with 5 bats here, 10 bats there.
Try to order 100 G1 bats and nothing else and you'll probably struggle.
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I get what your both saying. I only know what I know from when I was at Salix which is 3 years ago now. G1 is G1 from Wrights for example and we couldn't ask Wrights for just G1. Kenner has to order x number of G2 and G3 bats to be able to order x number of G1 bats. And as far as I know that's still the case for the main willow merchants. If Viking can just get G1 clefts from Jedi and they are prepared to only sell from there cleft range to Viking than I guess you can. My point is still a G1 is just that not 3 ranges of a certain Grade. Maybe I'm wrong or out of date
Think you have to order a cross-section of grades from a willow merchant, but Viking obviously have an agreement to only take grade 1 from their bat maker, James (Jedi).
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Hi All,
We have been made aware of the confusion around Viking cricket and will try to clear a few things up.
We started planning Viking Cricket about 18 months ago although our plans had been around for much longer and we launched about 12 months ago.
We had bought a few bats from Jason at Hammer for local cricketers after they had seen my sons bat but were never going to be Distributors or anything like that.
We spoke to Jason about his future plans and without going into detail he had no issue with what we were planning, we discussed brand names etc as you would expect i cant go into more detail.
We are in the process of working with Viking Australia and have a very good relationship, we are hoping to both be under one Brand soon and again i cant say more just yet but it will be a very exciting time for both the UK and Australia.
Finally our bat maker is James Dollive who we choose to work after speaking to various people and visiting suppliers.
I understand we will have people who like what we are about and like anything in life people who don't.
We feel we have experience as ex players, an ECB Level 2 coach and parents of cricketers along with a bat maker with over 20 years experience who is well respected to offer a great products at good prices.
I am sure you will agree we have been open and honest on our website and named where our bats are made and by who, I am not sure everybody does that these days.
We have already worked with the local community to help a number of projects like the Cricket Asylum foundation, Given some bats to KECC who were burgled for the 14th time last year and a couple of other projects.
I hope that gives a little more info about us and please feel free to contact us if needed, however we wont be regulars on the forum but we thank all of you for the interest in Viking Cricket.
We have a website, telephone numbers and e-mail should anyone have any questions.
Best Wishes
Team Viking
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Great choice to use James! Quality... not always been keen on the JEDI stickers, so nice to know I can get a bat by James with different stickers.
Who makes Bear bats, are they also made by James?