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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: Ayrtek Cricket on February 27, 2017, 07:57:49 PM
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Quick question for info as we're on the hunt for a new groundsman.
What do people/clubs pay their groundsman per hour/day/year?
We've been lucky to have a club member help out over the last few years but now are looking to bring in the expertise from outside the club and wondered what the going rate was to get a feel of value for money based upon 20hrs per week.
Cheers
Tom
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We pay ours in the region of £8k a year I believe, does a top job too.
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We pay ours in the region of £8k a year I believe, does a top job too.
8k?? Are you dealing drugs to raise this money?
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That includes all raw materials too.
As for funding. Its a 3 senior sides and 5 junior sides. Along with some serious fundraising and beer consuming!
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8k?? Are you dealing drugs to raise this money?
I'd say that's rather low if it's their only job. This is based on Australian wages though so I'm not sure what it's like over there.
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Based on the greeentop i had to bat on last Saturday, whatever we're paying them it's too much ! :)
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from April, £7.50 p/h is the minimum wage. so that's £150 per week
7 weeks per-season rolling and squaring up, say 14 hours a week is £735
20 week season at 20 hours is £3000
end of season renovation/ winter grass cutting 30 hours is £225
about 4K
not including loam, paint, grass seed, petrol, equipment servicing, etc
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Thanks guys, trying to get a feel for value for money and where the job pitches in terms of skilled labour vs paying someone to simply cut the outfield etc.
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Strange one this as when I played a higher level groundsman were paid between 7k to 10k depending on the club and that was 10 years ago
we are lucky as quite a few farmers in the team that do a lot of the work
interesting that volunteer work at clubs has gone done in the last decade and more clubs are outsourcing jobs like groundwork, teas coaching juniors etc.
Great if you have the money
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Issue for us is we have 2 squares so effectively its double the workload and cost. quote we've had in is £15K + vat which also includes all materials and end of season work to put them to bed for the winter.
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Have you tried Pitchcare.com @Ayrtek Cricket? They have a forum that you could stick a post on asking for people who are interested?
I've done it before when we've travelled to build pitches and it was too far for the maintenance.
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I haven't as we only got left in the lurch last week as the person who we had lined up to do it took a job at Trent bridge so we've now got a bit of an issue finding someone last minute to step in.
I'll have a look tho and check it out 👍
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interesting that volunteer work at clubs has gone done in the last decade and more clubs are outsourcing jobs like groundwork, teas coaching juniors etc.
Great if you have the money
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Paid players, overseas etc.. only natural thst people stop giving their time for free. The downside really is that the game will continue to cost more because more finance will be required to pay for said pro, overseas, tea making, groundsman etc
Then coaching.. I suppose if you just wasn't babysitting you get parents and youngsters through the coaching babysitting courses and then just say they are coached.. if you want technical coaching then that's probably going to be paid for
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Quick question for info as we're on the hunt for a new groundsman.
What do people/clubs pay their groundsman per hour/day/year?
We've been lucky to have a club member help out over the last few years but now are looking to bring in the expertise from outside the club and wondered what the going rate was to get a feel of value for money based upon 20hrs per week.
Cheers
Tom
Tom, when I did the square last season, I spent more than 20 hours a week on just the square. It takes a lot longer than you think, when your on your own a job that look like a 15 min takes a hour.
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Tom, when I did the square last season, I spent more than 20 hours a week on just the square. It takes a lot longer than you think, when your on your own a job that look like a 15 min takes a hour.
Agree with this, it takes longer than you think. I only did a wicket for two years and spent at least 12 hours a week there and my father spent about the same.. that was just one square and tbh, we could have done loads more if you wanted wickets repaired during the season, pre germinating seeds etc
Time obviously depends on what quality you want to produce
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You need to be careful you don't end up with just a odd job gardener with th no real wicket experience . I would have thought two wickets per year including materials would be at least £20-25k by a proper outfit.
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Essex player Dan Lawrence's dad is the groundsman at Chingford CC. He works full-time and his arrangement includes him living at the ground. As far as I know, only two Essex League clubs have full-time groundsmen.
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Our ground man plays for free this is common practice in our league
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We have a full time groundsman at our place. Started off doing kitchens and bathrooms but went on all the courses etc etc and now he's doing a great job. Not only on the pitch, but in the club house as well.
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Surprised by the many comments of "People these days won't volunteer". Big shame, I'd never imagine us paying for it. Ground and teas are volunteered at our place, don't see it changing.
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Surprised by the many comments of "People these days won't volunteer". Big shame, I'd never imagine us paying for it. Ground and teas are volunteered at our place, don't see it changing.
Our ground work and teas are also done on a voluntary basis. 3 of us cover the ground between us, lucky to have some good equipment plus my own work tools which makes things relatively simple and fast and we are able to maintain to a decent standard. We have occasionally brought contractors in if theres an emergency - such as outfield mower breaking down on a Thursday night but this isn't cheap and I imagine would cost a fortune over the course of a season.
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Our ground man plays for free this is common practice in our league
Hardly a salary!
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Hardly a salary!
It's worth about 220.00 a season as
You say hardly a wage
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Surprised by the many comments of "People these days won't volunteer". Big shame, I'd never imagine us paying for it. Ground and teas are volunteered at our place, don't see it changing.
Same really, out groundsman volunteers... although we give him money out of kindness, if we turned around and said he wasn't getting any, he wouldnt care! I've done my fair share too and never had any money mentioned
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About four of us do it on Wednesdays. Weather permitting. 6-8ish.
Same again Saturday mornings. Tea ladies, umpire & coaches all free as well.
Without volunteers there would be no club. Pay one & it's a slippery slope.
The social function of cricket in the local community is vastly understated.
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About four of us do it on Wednesdays. Weather permitting. 6-8ish.
Same again Saturday mornings. Tea ladies, umpire & coaches all free as well.
Without volunteers there would be no club. Pay one & it's a slippery slope.
The social function of cricket in the local community is vastly understated.
your wicket only gets 2 hours preperation a week? I dont see how you can fully repair old wickets, cut new ones, roll them, seed them, water them etc etc in 2 hours, even if there is four of you
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Lots of pre season work. And end of season work. All by ground team.
4 x 2 = 8. Repeated on Saturdays is 16 hrs a week.
Keep machines well maintained and be really organised with the routine of who does what.
It's the equivalent of 1 person doing over 2 hours 7 days a week. But I clearly did not articulate myself very well.
Also we get to have a beer afterwards
Watering on timer after games. Hope that helps.