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Title: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: edge on March 21, 2017, 07:39:25 AM
So, I bought a 'Cricket bat with Salix stickers' off eBay, and it arrived yesterday. According to the eBay listing the seller bought it in a job lot of stuff and wasn't sure whether it was a genuine Salix or just another brand bat with Salix stickers on. To be honest, I'm not sure either! Some things about it are quite Salix-y, others aren't. Would welcome forum expertise on the matter, it's got quite a distinctive handle end which I'm sure should place it somewhere. Possibly @SOULMAN1012 could shed some Salix light on it? Confident the stickers are genuine, has possibly had a refurb in the not too distant past as there's some rough patches. That said, the finish probably wasn't helped by myHermes leaving it outside my front door in the pissing rain yesterday...

So, the bat. Grains are mixed, really quite nice on the inside half of the bat and a bit of a dog's dinner the other side towards the toe. Handle is a very thick semi oval which is right up my street so pleased there. Slightly odd feel tapping it up with a mallet to be honest, but response with a ball is good, definitely a nice middle on it. With a grip on it comes out a little over 2.12, my kind of finished weight, and picks up nicely with a good balance to it.

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170320_205040_zpsmy4z5qd9.jpg)

Shape - looks plausibly Salixy? Long spine all the way down to the toe, slight bow. Not big edges but a good bit of depth in the spine. A little concaving but not too much. Toeguard on so I can't check for binding lathe mark.

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/6bc90129-bb25-490e-83af-92f09d71cd48_zpsebcylblj.jpg)

Shoulders/handle - again look not dissimilar to usual Salix from pictures, but I don't have another one to compare with. Little bit of filler under the binding, and an unusual shape knob I'm sure I've seen before but can't quite place.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170320_203912_zpslbwjmxoc.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170320_203915_zpskwryid3r.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170320_203929_zpsj6edyxmh.jpg)

So, the verdict! Is it a Salix? You tell me, I'd definitely be interested to hear from people who know more about their bats than me.
Is it a good bat? I think so, certainly for 99p :D I'll obviously reserve full judgement until I've had a hit with it, but it's got a nice handle, is my weight, picks up well and seems to respond well out of the middle - I'm happy! If nothing else it'll make a top quality net bat and I'll see how it performs from there. Beat that, bargain hunters!
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
ohhh this is interesting  :) well 'beat that bargain hunters'  no one can for 99p so you win allround, it's beers on you !!

the top of the handle does not look like a Salix shape to me, ive had a few of these bats and got one now, they are more 'square'

shoulders wise again doesn't look like a Salix shape, hard to explain but just looking at this one don't look quite right.

far as the shape of the bat goes I really like it, and to my uneducated eye it looks UK made. How can you tell that....I dunno !!!  just gut feeling

the 'SH' on the top of the handle and that round shape to it is very interesting, I recognise that style but not sure from where.

any road up this is a win win  :)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Woodyspin on March 21, 2017, 08:24:37 AM
the top of the handle does not look like a Salix shape to me, ive had a few of these bats and got one now, they are more 'square'

Maybe it was rehandled... PLOT TWIST
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Gurujames on March 21, 2017, 08:28:44 AM
Regardless what it is a bat for 99p is still a bargain. It has a 'grade one' sticker on the front and to me it is not a grade 1. However, I've never heard of Salix selling stickers and I can't imagine they would put the stickers on a refurb of another brand either.
I've never had a Torque and I might be wrong, but doesn't it have a slightly shorter than average blade and longer handle?
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 08:29:43 AM
Maybe it was rehandled... PLOT TWIST

yeah that did cross my mind!!  :)

do youn recognise that top part of the handle style?  I do....I just cant place it.....

what a great thread
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 08:30:52 AM
Warsop old model possibly for the round style handle(top part)

 :)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: edge on March 21, 2017, 08:37:25 AM
ohhh this is interesting  :) well 'beat that bargain hunters'  no one can for 99p so you win allround, it's beers on you !!

the top of the handle does not look like a Salix shape to me, ive had a few of these bats and got one now, they are more 'square'

shoulders wise again doesn't look like a Salix shape, hard to explain but just looking at this one don't look quite right.

far as the shape of the bat goes I really like it, and to my uneducated eye it looks UK made. How can you tell that....I dunno !!!  just gut feeling

the 'SH' on the top of the handle and that round shape to it is very interesting, I recognise that style but not sure from where.

any road up this is a win win  :)
Yeah all fair points, agree for some reason I think it's UK made but probably not a Salix! Someone will know, I'm sure haha.

Maybe it was rehandled... PLOT TWIST
Oh dayum, don't make it more complicated!
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: northernboy1987 on March 21, 2017, 08:41:53 AM
an unusual shape knob I'm sure I've seen before but can't quite place.

Somewhere @FattusCattus' head just exploded :D
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 09:00:17 AM
Somewhere @FattusCattus' head just exploded :D

haha quality !!  the cat @FattusCattus will love that
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 21, 2017, 09:00:58 AM
on the handle shape... i had an Adidas incurza which i believe were sg made that had a very similar handle knob shape but as you say could have been re-handled
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 21, 2017, 09:06:06 AM
Salix toe shape  Salix binding with an early Salix  handle  and up dated stickers
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: FattusCattus on March 21, 2017, 09:24:55 AM
Somewhere @FattusCattus' head just exploded :D

You can't use that phraseology in conjunction with a knob gag!!! :o
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: FattusCattus on March 21, 2017, 09:25:34 AM
haha quality !!  the cat @FattusCattus will love that

I wouldn't mind an unusual shaped knob if it was 2lb 12ozs!!!
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: northernboy1987 on March 21, 2017, 09:43:46 AM
[quote au :Dthor=FattusCattus link=topic=41845.msg666067#msg666067 date=1490088295]
You can't use that phraseology in conjunction with a knob gag!!! :o
[/quote]

I thought that as I was typing it but left it as a little extra for you :D
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 10:06:38 AM
Edge be interested if @tom line  aka junior TK has any comment on the binding

all may be revealed  :)

Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Whispering Death on March 21, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
Does it look Kashmir willow to anyone else??
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Tom on March 21, 2017, 10:48:37 AM
Yeh, looks like a cheap oldish (10 years+) Indian made Kashmir bat to me.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Kulli on March 21, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
Still 99p is a decent price for a set of Salix stickers :)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: tom line on March 21, 2017, 11:02:45 AM
To me doesn't look a Salix, the handle doesn't look right and the shoulders aren't quite right either to me. As well as this Salix are known for not having toe guards and being really hard to fit toe guards to as they have a rounded toe, so the toe guard implies to me it's not a genuine Salix, they do give out stickers on refurbs if you take it to them for a refurb, they will put stickers on if you ask, I've known them do it for several people in the leagues local to me
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: petehosk on March 21, 2017, 11:37:11 AM
The Salix bats that do have a toe guard are usually salix own brand so the Salix symbol can be seen in my experience.
Also from a knob point of view (leave it Bruce!) here are knobs which have been mentioned!
Older Salix type like this......
(http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii471/petehosk/Salix_older_zpskppdujsk.jpg)

has this knob....
(http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii471/petehosk/Salix_Older_kn%20ob_zpswhi8gdqt.jpg)

A newer Salix has this shape of knob....
(http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii471/petehosk/Salix_pod_knob_zpsul00ew7f.jpg)

And will even include an Adidas knob for variety....
(http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii471/petehosk/Adidas_knob_zpspjmngsk7.jpg)

I never thought I would ever spend time taking pictures and comparing shapes of knobs!!  :o
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Number4 on March 21, 2017, 11:50:14 AM
As tom line says the shoulders don't look Salix
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: iand123 on March 21, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Mrs Hosk: Pete what are you doing?

Pete: Just taking knob pictures for people on the internet, won't be long

Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 11:52:27 AM
really good quality photos of the knobs
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Number4 on March 21, 2017, 11:53:15 AM
Let's compare knobs

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/DSCN7069Medium.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/number414/media/DSCN7069Medium.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: petehosk on March 21, 2017, 12:12:42 PM
Mrs Hosk: Pete what are you doing?

Pete: Just taking knob pictures for people on the internet, won't be long

More worried about others:

Policeman: Mr Hosk - we have been informed that you have been uploading some questionable photos of knobs onto the Internet?

Me: Yes Officer. I often upload photos of knobs, shafts, and nice "wood" for my fellow chums on the internet - I also encourage some of the younger members to post photos of their wood too. In particular I find this is good for the younger members on the forum and I love looking at their photos!

Policeman: You don't have to say anything, but anything you do say may be..............

Me: Heh?
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: edge on March 21, 2017, 12:21:25 PM
You know, as I typed the words 'unusual shape knob' this morning, I just knew this would happen! The only surprise is that it mostly hasn't involved Fattus...
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: petehosk on March 21, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
Let's compare knobs

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/DSCN7069Medium.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/number414/media/DSCN7069Medium.jpg.html[/url])


And let's not have a knob photo competition  ;)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Number4 on March 21, 2017, 12:30:56 PM
You know, as I typed the words 'unusual shape knob' this morning, I just knew this would happen! The only surprise is that it mostly hasn't involved Fattus...

It's all your fault.. You whipped out your knob first
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: InternalTraining on March 21, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
@edge , the top of the handle looks interesting to me. How many pieces does it have?

The shoulders and the top of the handle are very TK-ish. Meh, about the face of the blade though.

Let us know how it plays.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
@edge , the top of the handle looks interesting to me. How many pieces does it have?

The shoulders and the top of the handle are very TK-ish. Meh, about the face of the blade though.

Let us know how it plays.

Gordon Bennett it get's better. It's a possible Keeley !!!   :o :o :o :o

holy cow thought i's seen it all on the forum this tops the lot  :)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Kulli on March 21, 2017, 02:05:33 PM
Doesn't have the tell tale TK glue.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Tom on March 21, 2017, 02:09:00 PM
I'm almost certain it's not English made, the handle is too cheap and it's not EW.

If guess would be an oldish Champ 'EWNI' bat.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: edge on March 21, 2017, 02:09:10 PM
This show you better @InternalTraining ? Not at home atm so don't have any photos without the SH sticker.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170320_203923_zpsow21zzyg.jpg?t=1490018902)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 21, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
Theres no way thats a TK handle.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: InternalTraining on March 21, 2017, 03:14:16 PM
This show you better @InternalTraining ? Not at home atm so don't have any photos without the SH sticker.
([url]http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/eiwm/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170320_203923_zpsow21zzyg.jpg?t=1490018902[/url])


No worries, from the original angle, it appeared to have a marbled TK-ish look. This picture is clear.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: InternalTraining on March 21, 2017, 03:14:52 PM
Doesn't have the tell tale TK glue.

TK glue? More info. please.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: InternalTraining on March 21, 2017, 03:15:18 PM
I'm almost certain it's not English made, the handle is too cheap and it's not EW.

If guess would be an oldish Champ 'EWNI' bat.

EW? What's "EWNI"?
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 21, 2017, 03:24:07 PM
EW? What's "EWNI"?

English Willow

and

English Willow Nurtured in India
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Kulli on March 21, 2017, 03:53:22 PM
TK glue? More info. please.

They use or used type of animal glue that leaves a shiny yellowly look to the twine.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on March 21, 2017, 04:55:56 PM
@edge I'm afraid that is not an original salix. As has been mentioned the handle is not a salix handle and neither is that binding done at salix from the pictures the twine looks all wrong.
As for the stickers they have never been sold separately by salix but they did put a few sets on bats they refurbed From older models if the person was maybe buying a salix as well. On odd occasions genuine salix stickers have come up on eBay but the source of how they came by these would have to be questioned.

Any bat for a £1 is good deal but I'm afraid that isn't a genuine salix bat in my opinion
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: edge on March 21, 2017, 05:00:52 PM
@edge I'm afraid that is not an original salix. As has been mentioned the handle is not a salix handle and neither is that binding done at salix from the pictures the twine looks all wrong.
As for the stickers they have never been sold separately by salix but they did put a few sets on bats they refurbed From older models if the person was maybe buying a salix as well. On odd occasions genuine salix stickers have come up on eBay but the source of how they came by these would have to be questioned.

Any bat for a £1 is good deal but I'm afraid that isn't a genuine salix bat in my opinion
Thanks mate, I suspected as much and most of the posts confirmed it but useful to hear a verdict from someone who really knows the brand. Now, I wonder what it really is! Also with all this speculation I really want to get in a net ha...
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 05:04:30 PM
im a bit deflated Dr Edge, it could of been the greatest bargain ever on the forum. it's not a Salix , it's not a TK....it's got an old style knob type handle 

but it's the right weight, potentially could have some PING

and it was 99p.

happy days.
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: FattusCattus on March 21, 2017, 05:41:59 PM
You know, as I typed the words 'unusual shape knob' this morning, I just knew this would happen! The only surprise is that it mostly hasn't involved Fattus...

Meh! Seen one knob............................
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: iand123 on March 21, 2017, 06:34:13 PM
@edge I'm afraid that is not an original salix. As has been mentioned the handle is not a salix handle and neither is that binding done at salix from the pictures the twine looks all wrong.
As for the stickers they have never been sold separately by salix but they did put a few sets on bats they refurbed From older models if the person was maybe buying a salix as well. On odd occasions genuine salix stickers have come up on eBay but the source of how they came by these would have to be questioned.

Any bat for a £1 is good deal but I'm afraid that isn't a genuine salix bat in my opinion

I bought some original stickers off of eBay about 12-18 months ago, weirdly from Australia
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: t2ylo on March 21, 2017, 06:39:19 PM
This thread is why I love cbf but it also the reason my attention span at work and home is vastly reduced
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: benparkinson1 on March 21, 2017, 07:00:57 PM
This thread is why I love cbf but it also the reason my attention span at work and home is vastly reduced

agree very much
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: ppccopener on March 21, 2017, 07:10:02 PM
Yeah!! 'This place is full of knobs' said one disgruntled CBF member

How wrong could they be? Haha  :)
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: Tailendfielder on March 21, 2017, 11:27:52 PM
I dont think it is salix. If it is then been restickered and rehandled?
Title: Re: 99p eBay 'Salix'
Post by: edge on May 02, 2017, 08:16:44 PM
So, artificial nets were a bit wet and I actually had a hit with this today... not a bad bat at all! Makes an odd noise, but lovely balance to it and it pings surprisingly well, unlikely it'll ever see match use from me but it's a very tidy net bat.