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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Cricket_PTY on March 22, 2017, 03:29:18 PM

Title: Another Repair SF
Post by: Cricket_PTY on March 22, 2017, 03:29:18 PM
Hey guys i share another repair i did... almost similar to the last one...

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170320_124237.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170320_124237.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170320_124245.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170320_124245.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170320_124251.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170320_124251.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170320_125020.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170320_125020.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170320_130212.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170320_130212.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170320_130358.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170320_130358.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170321_120153.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170321_120153.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170321_120201.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170321_120201.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/20170321_120208.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/20170321_120208.jpg.html)

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w322/Saleh_Bhana/IMG-20170322-WA0005.jpg) (http://s520.photobucket.com/user/Saleh_Bhana/media/IMG-20170322-WA0005.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 22, 2017, 03:41:54 PM
Looks a decent repair considering the bats  condition  for that type of damage the. String repair is the best option.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: simonmay5 on March 22, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Okay, I'm confused...

For me attention to detail matters no matter how small also prefer to return the bat to its owner  in as near pleasing to the eye condition as when the bat was new  first impressions etc  but suppose it depends on what value you put on your work

On one thread you're complaining that the dowel used isn't a perfect colour match and doesn't line up with a grain pattern, yet you describe a repair where the scuff sheet hasn't been removed as "decent". Maybe a bit more attention to detail is required in your posts so you don't come accross as such a hypocrite!  ;)
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2017, 06:13:20 PM
Okay, I'm confused...

On one thread you're complaining that the dowel used isn't a perfect colour match and doesn't line up with a grain pattern, yet you describe a repair where the scuff sheet hasn't been removed as "decent". Maybe a bit more attention to detail is required in your posts so you don't come accross as such a hypocrite!  ;)

Who's got a "drop the mic" gif handy??
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 22, 2017, 06:20:14 PM
String is overkill for a clean split like that in my opinion. It wont do any harm, but it's not necessary.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Cricket_PTY on March 22, 2017, 09:46:12 PM
String is overkill for a clean split like that in my opinion. It wont do any harm, but it's not necessary.

U dont think is necessary to re-inforce this kind of splits??? so when do u think is necessary? can u please advice as i am not a pro in bat repairs, i do it because i like it and post it in this forums to receive feedback from u guys....

would love to hear ur comments on when to use string and when not...

cheers...

Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 22, 2017, 10:10:04 PM
U dont think is necessary to re-inforce this kind of splits??? so when do u think is necessary? can u please advice as i am not a pro in bat repairs, i do it because i like it and post it in this forums to receive feedback from u guys....

would love to hear ur comments on when to use string and when not...

cheers...

Strong is fine and will work well as reinforcement, I just don't think it gives enough benefit to justify the negatives it brings in terms of looks. Fibreglass tape probably provides as much reinforcement and looks a lot more pleasing to the eye

I'd advise string on a serious split (bat nearly in two bits) or if you manage to patch up the sort of crack that goes off in multiple directions like crazy paving

You've done a neat job with the clamping and string, no criticism from me :)
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 23, 2017, 10:56:26 AM
Okay, I'm confused...

On one thread you're complaining that the dowel used isn't a perfect colour match and doesn't line up with a grain pattern, yet you describe a repair where the scuff sheet hasn't been removed as "decent". Maybe a bit more attention to detail is required in your posts so you don't come accross as such a hypocrite!  ;)

Bit strong that Simon but I do realise  Toms your chum  and the  forum clique are looking to have a go anyway stand by what I said.which was for  me attention to detail is important.The decent comment re PTYs  bat repair  was  due to the bats being in such a poor state prior to the repair and that PTY had done a decent job.
Hope that helps
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 23, 2017, 11:12:54 AM
U dont think is necessary to re-inforce this kind of splits??? so when do u think is necessary? can u please advice as i am not a pro in bat repairs, i do it because i like it and post it in this forums to receive feedback from u guys....

would love to hear ur comments on when to use string and when not...

cheers...
Wouldnt normally recommend using string as it as known to damage the ball but   in this instance because of how badly damaged the bat was string was okay to use  as the blade needed an exceptionally strong repair
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: tom line on March 23, 2017, 12:43:17 PM
Right @Seniorplayer I've tried to stay out of the lack of attention to details etc, and @Cricket_PTY I'm sorry this is taking place in your thread but,
First of all I'd like to point out that at no point have I asked for anyone to post anything on any threads. I haven't asked anyone to post reviews of work and nor have I asked for people to defend the repairs I did to Pete's bat. The colour of dowel was minute issue I appreciate your choices and that you would have personally used willow caps etc, this may well be something I try in the future and I appreciate the comment, I take it as constructive criticism rather than any insult. However criticism along the lines of saying I don't value my work, and I don't have attention to detail when doing my work, that's what I found insulting. As I take pride in what I do and work hard at every instance to constantly improve specifically in terms of finishing and consistency.

Now in relation to this repair and the comments overlapping PTY'a repair and my own on Pete's bat. You state how on this case you are not referring to the attention to detail but rather that it's a decent job as the bat was in such a bad state. Are you therefore deeming and implying that Pete's bat was in good condition and it was simply a minor issue as that's how it comes across.

I understand that you don't appear to be my biggest fan and that's fine, you can't please everyone but personally I just see criticism coming not from the jobs done but more something personal and that's what I found insulting.

If you want to discuss any of this privately @Seniorplayer I'm more than happy to do so, as for the work you've done @Cricket_PTY twine isn't my personal cup of tea, however I know sometimes it's essential to reinforcing the repair but as Vitas said with a clean crack like this it's not normally needed. Maybe a little bit of tape or just a few layers of binding at the toe would have been my personal choice, ultimately it's what you think secures the repair and if you feel they are safer this way, then that's not an issue.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 23, 2017, 02:02:08 PM
For me attention to detail is important and always will be.
That said my posts were  not criticisms  or meant to be  interpreted as  somthing  personal
If they were That's quite  disappointing


Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Churchy1989 on March 23, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
Who's got a "drop the mic" gif handy??

Bit Late..

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Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Cricket_PTY on March 23, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Strong is fine and will work well as reinforcement, I just don't think it gives enough benefit to justify the negatives it brings in terms of looks. Fibreglass tape probably provides as much reinforcement and looks a lot more pleasing to the eye

I'd advise string on a serious split (bat nearly in two bits) or if you manage to patch up the sort of crack that goes off in multiple directions like crazy paving

You've done a neat job with the clamping and string, no criticism from me :)

Ok thanks for the advice @Vitas Cricket !

For u the only negative of string is how it looks ?
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Neon Cricket on March 23, 2017, 04:18:01 PM
Maybe @Seniorplayer should post some of his own refurbs to show us all what attention to detail really looks like :D
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 23, 2017, 04:32:11 PM
Ok thanks for the advice @Vitas Cricket !

For u the only negative of string is how it looks ?

Maybe playability given the amount of string used in this repair. But this is just an opinion.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Chad on March 23, 2017, 05:13:19 PM
Good job with the repair, I rarely use string with repairs unless it's cracked through the back as I find it fidgety to do. Fibreglass tape wrapped round tightly serves nicely as Jake said. I agree about the replacing of the scuff sheet though, but with it being a fibreglass one, I don't blame you for not removing it, an absolute pain in the ass!
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Cricket_PTY on March 23, 2017, 05:24:49 PM
Good job with the repair, I rarely use string with repairs unless it's cracked through the back as I find it fidgety to do. Fibreglass tape wrapped round tightly serves nicely as Jake said. I agree about the replacing of the scuff sheet though, but with it being a fibreglass one, I don't blame you for not removing it, an absolute pain in the ass!

Def.. PAIN in the ass removing scuf sheets... specially fibre ones...
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 02, 2017, 09:32:31 AM
Maybe @Seniorplayer should post some of his own refurbs to show us all what attention to detail really looks like :D
Only just spotted this
Its a good idea Adam If i was looking to  promote and expand but the refurbs / repairs are just a pastime that I do for  for friends  club mates etc.at no cost.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: procricket on April 02, 2017, 09:46:06 AM
MMM

All this needs to look good stuff grates me a little.

I have one of James Taylor bats which if you was not already aware of is a gun but when I got it it had a massive chunk missing from the bottom edge.

Now the bat is white white wood but the added bit is the darkest timer I have ever seen, the fixer but Kashmir williow in there because he said it was harder and in truth if if looking to smoke the ball I shouldn't really use that area. It has held for over a season and a half!!!

Surely the idea of a fix is that, a fix to prolong the life of a bat.
Attention to detail for me is the fix lasting nothing else.
Dowel I do not like because I think it causes week points but should only be used as a last resort.
Twine around a bat I don't like unless it the mega fine stuff which most do not use.

That's my opnion nothing wrong with good old glue and tape for me unless it so badly needed something else maybe needed.

All about keeping bats on the road surely not looks once there done and detail is the fix not the look!
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: alexhilly1492 on April 02, 2017, 09:55:10 AM
Only just spotted this
Its a good idea Adam If i was looking to  promote and expand but the refurbs / repairs are just a pastime that I do for  for friends  club mates etc.at no cost.

So you're willing to critique others but not have your work critiqued?

It shouldn't matter if you're looking to promote and expand, if you take pride and are happy with what you've done why not show it off?

Or are you worried people will be as overly critical as you have been?
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Gurujames on April 02, 2017, 10:06:31 AM
I think you are all being a bit harsh on seniorplayer. If you look the first comment he made was a positive one about the repair. It was other people who decided to bring up other comments from another thread and when quoting out of context anything can appear inappropriate.
I have no problem with people having close attention to detail, even when it will have no functional benefit. In lots of work I do if parts (which will not be visible) are not finished 100% correctly the whole piece will be rejected. I think a lot of us older people were trained with that mindset.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: procricket on April 02, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
I think you are all being a bit harsh on seniorplayer. If you look the first comment he made was a positive one about the repair. It was other people who decided to bring up other comments from another thread and when quoting out of context anything can appear inappropriate.
I have no problem with people having close attention to detail, even when it will have no functional benefit. In lots of work I do if parts (which will not be visible) are not finished 100% correctly the whole piece will be rejected. I think a lot of us older people were trained with that mindset.

He right about the cliques mind !!!!! however I guess that's life without people like @Seniorplayer this forum would be dead.

As f the older people comment please don't young people are equally equipment and as professional in my line of work as any generation.

And before anybody goes off on one of course people stick up for there friends it is human nature and cliques are natural.

Be a boring world if we where all the same.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 02, 2017, 11:44:48 AM
So you're willing to critique others but not have your work critiqued?

It shouldn't matter if you're looking to promote and expand, if you take pride and are happy with what you've done why not show it off?

Or are you worried people will be as overly critical as you have been?
who's stirred you up Alex not me I hope
 Me concerned  about comments I thrive on them.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 02, 2017, 11:52:27 AM
I think you are all being a bit harsh on seniorplayer. If you look the first comment he made was a positive one about the repair. It was other people who decided to bring up other comments from another thread and when quoting out of context anything can appear inappropriate.
I have no problem with people having close attention to detail, even when it will have no functional benefit. In lots of work I do if parts (which will not be visible) are not finished 100% correctly the whole piece will be rejected. I think a lot of us older people were trained with that mindset.
I thought I was being helpful  if a jobs worth doing and all that after all this is a forum  just goes to prove why people  join and then don't bother with it.                                                                                                                                                  Also  with regard to close attention to detail  as course tutor for 16 to 20 year olds in higher education if there work is not 100 percent  i reject it.
Title: Re: Another Repair SF
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 02, 2017, 12:04:15 PM
He right about the cliques mind !!!!! however I guess that's life without people like @Seniorplayer this forum would be dead.

As f the older people comment please don't young people are equally equipment and as professional in my line of work as any generation.

And before anybody goes off on one of course people stick up for there friends it is human nature and cliques are natural.

Be a boring world if we where all the same.






Do agree Dave of course it's okay to stick up for your friends  but don't agree with a forum administrator acting as lord protector surely they should be impartial.