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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Long hop 1987 on April 10, 2017, 02:59:43 PM
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Hi All,
There is quite a few conversations on here about bats opening up.
This is definitely something I have experianced with bats getting better the more you use them up to certain point.
Does anyone know why this is?
My main reason for asking is that my bat which going great last year and during the early part of winter nets has just been for a refurb.
No major damage just a clean up of the face and a new protective sheet. I took it to Rob Pack so someone who knows what they are doing.
It has come back and it looks great but is playing like a bit of a plank!!
Has anyone else experianced this?
PS I've use it a couple of times now to try an exclude me just have a big knock which is highly likely!!
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In simple terms when the bat is pressed the fibres compact as you use your bat they become less so the bat is then refered to as opening up.
It would appear that your bat as been re compressed .
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I suspect that the feel of the ball on bat is slightly different with the scuff sheet.
Once you use it and start scoring runs I am sure it will be fine.
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There's lot of misunderstanding of this term. Vitas explains the proper meaning best.
I've kind of given up, like with the soft-pressing thing.
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There's lot of misunderstanding of this term. Vitas explains the proper meaning best.
I've kind of given up, like with the soft-pressing thing.
I am with certian batmakers who advertised there bats as : softer pressing for ultimate pro performance
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I am with certian batmakers who advertised there bats as : softer pressing for ultimate pro performance
I bet they're pleased.
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It would be interesting to hear the process RP went through refurbing your bat.. I wouldn't have thought he re-pressed (could be very wrong) it but if the face had a lot of glue and/or the handle was rebound / taped etc then it wouldn't be a surprise to me that the bat didn't feel quite the same. A different face sheet could also make the contact feel different I suppose but I wouldn't have thought it was that obvious.
There is of course the mental side of things.. very feasible that as it looks different you just feel it as different... If it pinged before hard to see why it wouldn't again, I'm sure as the season goes on you won't notice it.
The other thing I noticed in the nets is the increased bounce just doesn't go well with a few of my usual match bats... of course if the swell is low/mid but the bounce of the nets is greater than normal then the ball just won't be coming off the face in the same way... I really noticed this when I put my bats side by side after a net session and saw where the impact marks were on the bat.
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In simple terms when the bat is pressed the fibres compact as you use your bat they become less so the bat is then refered to as opening up.
It would appear that your bat as been re compressed .
Surely the repeated striking of a hard object would further compact the fibers not reduce the compaction?
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In simple terms when the bat is pressed the fibres compact as you use your bat they become less so the bat is then refered to as opening up.
It would appear that your bat as been re compressed .
Actually, the repeated impact compresses it further.
Pressing compresses the full face (well, area pressed), knocking in then compresses further in a more localised area (with the idea being to evenly compress the whole playing area further), and the impact of hitting the ball will compress the bat further still.
The reason delimitation occurs is because the willow has been compressed as far as it can, and as it cannot compress further it breaks. That's why it looks like the face of a well used bat falls off, it's actually the compressed area breaking away from the softer willow towards the middle of the blade.
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Hypothetical question.
All external factors being the same, if you took 5 bats and did the following which would last longest:
Bat 1 - 10% moisture and pressed so hard it didn't need knocking in
Bat 2 - 10% moisture, pressed well and knocked in until ready to play
Bat 3 - 10% moisture, soft pressed and knocked in until ready to play
Bat 4 - 10% moisture, pressed well and used out of the packet
Bat 5 - 25% moisture, pressed well and knocked in until ready to play
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Bat 2 - 10% moisture, pressed well and knocked in until ready to play
Bat 3 - 10% moisture, soft pressed and knocked in until ready to play
Well for a kickoff these two should be the same, with Bat 3 just taking longer to knock in 'ready'.
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Hypothetical question.
All external factors being the same, if you took 5 bats and did the following which would last longest:
Bat 1 - 10% moisture and pressed so hard it didn't need knocking in
Bat 2 - 10% moisture, pressed well and knocked in until ready to play
Bat 3 - 10% moisture, soft pressed and knocked in until ready to play
Bat 4 - 10% moisture, pressed well and used out of the packet
Bat 5 - 25% moisture, pressed well and knocked in until ready to play
Depends who uses it
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Bat 1. It would be such a plank it would never get used.
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Depends who uses it
All external factors being the same, so let's say it's you Dave :)
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Bat 5 I think but I wouldn't go for it...
But there so many factors like storage like handle fit like usage like natural varients..
How do you know the 25 per cent is spread evenly...
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Very good point, and interesting question. I suppose you would monitor it in the same way as you do a standard 10%, how does the maker know that's even?
It was more a theory I have made me ask the question than anything else, but some kind of test would be interesting.
Longevity is one thing, but would the different moisture content have any effect on the performance.
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Bat 5 - 25% moisture, pressed well and knocked in until ready to play
What does the moisture %age actually mean? 25% of the weight of the bat is moisture i.e. water? For a 2 lb bat with a 25% moisture, how much of the 2lb weight is the water/moisture?
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Actually, the repeated impact compresses it further.
Pressing compresses the full face (well, area pressed), knocking in then compresses further in a more localised area (with the idea being to evenly compress the whole playing area further), and the impact of hitting the ball will compress the bat further still.
The reason delimitation occurs is because the willow has been compressed as far as it can, and as it cannot compress further it breaks. That's why it looks like the face of a well used bat falls off, it's actually the compressed area breaking away from the softer willow towards the middle of the blade.
Good work. :)