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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: velvetsky01 on May 09, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
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That is the question......
I have a H4L NV which is going well for me currently - and it is currently "Naked" I like all my bats to be like this as it allows me to repair any damage etc easily. the only issue with having the bat naked is that bat is more likely to get damage. I have an area in the middle of the blade where it is lifting after each innings coming up and I am having to glue, sand and then wax after each game. I don't mid doing this as I am looking after my fav bat but am wanting the bat to last, so am thinking about popping a scuff on it just for some added protection.
what would you do?
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Scuff. My NV has always had a scuff sheet and has no damage whatsoever. Ensure you get glue right the way under the area that is lifting then use a G or F clamp to hold down while it sticks.
Good luck, I love my NV.
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I like the look of a bat with cherries on it but i think the scuff sheet adds more protection and ultimately protects the blade so put them on all my bats. Also as a massive badger gives me something to do in the winter by cleaning them up, applying new scuff sheets etc
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I have a scuff related question...didnt want to start a new thread for it. The scuff sheet on my new bat is cracking up after playing with the bat. Does that mean that that scuff sheet is of a poor quality or does it mean that the bat isnt fully knocked in yet?
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sounds like poor quality scuff
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I like the look of a bat with cherries on it but i think the scuff sheet adds more protection and ultimately protects the blade so put them on all my bats. Also as a massive badger gives me something to do in the winter by cleaning them up, applying new scuff sheets etc
That's why I like having my bats without them as I am a massive badger I can do it all summer lol
But wanna look after this NV
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I find that Hammer Edge is a good and protects the face.
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Add scuff for protection but I never do just check and clean the bat between matches.
Find like already stated edge tap works well.
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yes this is what I tend to do and I enjoy doing it - I just worry that it may break off mid innings lol
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After a net this eve once again the area has lifted so another glue sand and wax. I am tempted to pop a scuff on it as I think this is the bat that will take me through the season so do wish to look after it - which I know I am doing by sanding and gluing etc but is becoming a bit of a pain lol
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I popped a scuff on there this evening I couldn't carry on with the constant repair lol
Will it be ok to use tomorrow? Would have around 17 hours to dry by then
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Yes, it will be fine.
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Scuff sheet any day..Will prolong life of bat not just from the ball impact but from any moisture from balls under dew/wet conditions.
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I get a laugh out of people who refuse to put a sleeve on a modern bat because of the old add weight or reduce performance nonsense, almost always they come back wrapped in more fiberglass tape than if they had just put a sleeve on.
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When a problem comes along you must scuff it !
..... now scuff it , scuff it good !
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Well I popped the scuff on did a really nice job on it really pleased....now to today's game.... I was run out on 11 as we do blame the other batsman - I was cross. Stormed into the changing room before I do I had to let my anger out....so punched the door lol however having done so I slip lol and have now put two stud marks into the brand new scuff :-( so annoying but that's what temper does lol
Here's the damage...
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/B79F5D6A-3B43-4E76-9EFA-D833A6FDA957_zpsnq7qaeda.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/B79F5D6A-3B43-4E76-9EFA-D833A6FDA957_zpsnq7qaeda.jpg.html)
What can I do? If anything? Obviously I need to replace the scuff but what can I do with the stud mark?
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Well you could take the scuff off and sand the bat. Or you could just out some fibre glass tape over the areas where the scuff has the tears
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I was thinking the same as I literally only put it on yesterday lol
Feel very silly how it happened lol
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Could try and remember it's just a game?
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Yep your right but heat of the moment and all that
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I never throw wobbly temper tantrums simply because I've seen too many blokes ruin good kit ....once saw a near new m&h amplus rammed into the toilet in the changeroom .
Just remember this funny/ironic moment next time you're feeling the same way and you should be sweet .
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Yep absolutely I was thinking the same thing very ironic
But that a side... any thoughts on the best way to treat the spiking issue? Lol
Ps shoving a amplus down the toilet is an image I don't wish to think about lol
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Would people recommend keeping the scuff on and just taping it and have done with it until the season end
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Take the scuff off check the damage would it just be a case of sanding it down? Then replace scuff
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Depends on your level of kit o.c.d . Me , I'd take the scuff off , check , sand , rescuff . The tape is extra weight too ( only matters for gram weinies though ).
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I thinks scuff sheets are great if you want to do a winter service and then forget about your bat bar using it until the autumn, but for a kit badger like myself I much prefer being able to sand glue and tape any issues that pop up right away and without having to remove and replace a scuff each time.
I'm also not sure that they protect bats from all that much.
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I'd always use an anti-scuff sheet on a brand new bat, once its been in for repairs or a service some bat makers will suggest not using one but if you do it won't do any real harm to the bat its mainly about performance tbh. I've done both and haven't had any problems
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It takes longer for a new bat to open up with the scuff sheet, my advice knock it fairly well then scuff
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I recently discovered that an anti-scuff sheet is good for a brand new bat for a season or two - the bat face is less damaged and top surface is nicely hardened. After that, you can remove the sheet and just use the bat as is.
Anti-scuff also adds weight to a bat. If you are using a heavy bat or bat heavy enough reaching your timing threshold, extra weight can affect your timing. I prefer _not_ to use them on my match bats as by then the bat face is nicely/evenly hardened.
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Always been scuff for me, apply well at the start of the year, running repairs as required then refurb again in January
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well I had some time to have alook at the damage to my bat after "The incident" on Saturday after removing the scuff this is what I found.
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/F74E8172-AA94-4EAE-8250-C9628065B41D_zpssleeovje.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/F74E8172-AA94-4EAE-8250-C9628065B41D_zpssleeovje.jpg.html)
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/D159AD7D-F8A3-4DD7-8F39-9E6742683106_zpsxgkfmmwx.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/D159AD7D-F8A3-4DD7-8F39-9E6742683106_zpsxgkfmmwx.jpg.html)
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/6CCD0903-07BB-4457-964B-8476D6B302F7_zpsmfmfliky.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/6CCD0903-07BB-4457-964B-8476D6B302F7_zpsmfmfliky.jpg.html)
After a heavy sand (starting with 80 grit sandpaper then going up in stages to 320) I was left with his
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/5A88383A-891E-4348-91C6-E23CF9A530B8_zpsgeqqo3vd.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/5A88383A-891E-4348-91C6-E23CF9A530B8_zpsgeqqo3vd.jpg.html)
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/E14CFF43-3F40-4496-9063-33BC7F3F588F_zps1nlo6l4x.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/E14CFF43-3F40-4496-9063-33BC7F3F588F_zps1nlo6l4x.jpg.html)
I then put some glue on there to try and form a seal of some sort and then sanded again and popped a couple of applications of wax on there.
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/1DDC81A7-B8D8-4E30-A2D2-D01CB560BD16_zpsuzoqrxas.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/1DDC81A7-B8D8-4E30-A2D2-D01CB560BD16_zpsuzoqrxas.jpg.html)
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/velvetsky01/cricket/FB9B4F47-34FF-4E13-BA81-074DB60B5FA3_zps2pmjwoqy.jpg) (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/velvetsky01/media/cricket/FB9B4F47-34FF-4E13-BA81-074DB60B5FA3_zps2pmjwoqy.jpg.html)
a lot smoother than the photo properly looks - will apply a scuff later today after giving it all some time to dry
was toying with the idea of maybe putting some wood filer in there - or would this be a no go?
all in all lesson learnt - no tantrums after being run out again lol
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Looks a good job .
I wouldn't bother with wood filler . Pva glue is all you ever really need . You could mix in wood shavings (from the bat sanding process) with the glue.... but i reckon it's sweet as it is .
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thank you @Biggie Smalls yes I have heard of this trick and was thinking of doing that but wasn't sure if I a)needed to b) if it was worth the hassle or c) if wood filer was easier. But I might just add a scuff and leave how it is.
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Personally never liked scuff sheets.
Probably cos they weren't popular on bats when I started playing. Very rare to see them back in the day.
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I try not to scuff these days. Just edge tape. I usually get a new bat each season so I'm not too worried about it getting damaged.
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I'm not a fan of scuff sheets
But it's the cheap match balls that force the need for them
What's the best lightest scuff at the minute????
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I use fibreglass because they are by far the lightest . Although they sometimes hide face cracks /damage they do hold that damage together better ( you don't see helicopter /clear scuff edge/repair tape , do you ? ).
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so which Scuff Sheet do people recommend? I bought a couple from Itsjustcricket and they seem good
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Just a quick thing to bear in mind about dents. Before sanding (and obviously after you take the scuff off) you can try steaming out smaller dents entirely (or reduce the size of bigger ones) by liberal use of steam from a kettle.
After taking off the scuff, stick some decent quality painter's tape (the blue stuff or green Frog tape) over the bat stickers, so the steam doesn't start peeling them off! Bear in mind that any wood fibres exposed to the steam will lift a bit - so you may want to tape off the area immediately around the dent too. Then hold the dent over the kettle steam for a bit, and check progress as you go. After a few passes over the steam, the dent will reduce in size like magic!
When you're happy (bearing in mind the steam won't make deeper dents vanish entirely) take the tape off the bat, and let the wood dry out. Then you can get to work with a bit of light sanding to smooth down any raised wood fibres. :)
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The scuff from @Vitas Cricket has a good rep on here, I think. Comes in 2 metre sections for about £12, I think.
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Whats the process to remove and apply a new scuff sheet to a bat. Is it better to get it done at a cricket store?
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Whats the process to remove and apply a new scuff sheet to a bat. Is it better to get it done at a cricket store?
heat the glue, peel the scuff off going across the blade not up and down, sand, oil/wax stick new scuff on
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Here's a good video showing the technique
https://youtu.be/0htNZxz_zI0
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Have a lot of time for vitas helicopter sheet, you can get about 3 bats per metre, I have recently gone onto hammer edge sheets, bought from Adcal, only downside is the minimum order is 25 (but as I do repairs for the club It comes in handy most are Newberry bats with hammer edge anyway)
I feel the ball respondes better with them, personal choice.
Would like to try fibreglass sheets, buy I know there a bitch to take off!
As above, take it off across the face, if its stickers I just wizz a 120 paper over with an orbital sander, I cba to scrape it off etc.
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Just wondering which fibre glass sheets people consider the best?? The Gray nics fibretec version seems a decent option but are there any others readily available (want to avoid cheap ebay range), and more importantly where do the pros seem to get theirs from as a lot seem to be using them nowadays?
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Just wondering which fibre glass sheets people consider the best?? The Gray nics fibretec version seems a decent option but are there any others readily available (want to avoid cheap ebay range), and more importantly where do the pros seem to get theirs from as a lot seem to be using them nowadays?
Kane had fibre sheet applied under his stickers so I imagine the Pros just get them done before they arrive. I have seen brand new pro bats with them already applied so I assume this is the case.