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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gunn & Moore => Topic started by: vibrate on May 27, 2017, 11:14:39 AM
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Hey guys gonna buy a new gm soon to go with my collection. Tossing up between a mana or paragon. Mainly a front foot player love driving but also dont mind cutting the ball aswell.
Now my next question is there any significant difference between the 808's and originals? Apart from the looks is there really any significant performance differences? Ive had three 606's that went like guns just wanna know before i put a order in from the uk since i live in Aus
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Got a mate who has the Mana Really nice Pick up and quite big spines on them , he had a 606 goes just aswell as any other grade 1 on the market , quite thick handles also , i would recommend the mana.
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I have a Neon 808, and I love it. Great pickup, performance and looks, offset edge means middle is long.
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Was there much adjusting for you to get use to the handle/blade length? Im still having trouble adjusting for my kaha i purchased
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None at all.
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GM take their grading very, very seriously and typically will downgrade a blade compared to competitors. This is why they don't allow retailers to hand pick. I've seen lots of 808s and 606s that were superb, just with minor blemishes. I don't think there's a huge difference between the top 3 grades once they're knocked in properly.
Interestingly, GM don't subscribe to the idea that butterfly marks are a good thing. "Why would you want to have an area of the bat that takes a lot longer to start performing?". My son's had a few bats from GM and all have been absolute guns backed up by a great after sales service.
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I'd agree regarding butterfly marks, I'm not a fan in the playing area of a bat
But there's lots would disagree with this
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@vibrate - You will always find 606, 808 and 909 from GM very very compelling in terms of looks, ping and performance but nothing beats a GM original. Original model's willow quality is much much higher than any 808 or other models you see. Given the price point and level of cricket you can always choose between original and original LE. I prefer original, since its a good value for money for my level of cricket gameplay.
For front foot game play GM kaha might be a good option. Check out GM chrome - my personal take is that it falls right between Mana and Paragon model shapes. It might offer you the best of both worlds.
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So i decided to go with a mana to add to my collection. A lot lighter then my flare and Kaha but it picks up super nice keen to take it to the nets for a hit. The response with the mallet is super responsive super happy with my purchase. Here is a few shots of my three gm's together. I still want a paragon but that will have to wait.
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Some great bats there @vibrate - can't go wrong with 606/707 or 808 GM's in my opinion. Great performing bats at sensible prices.
I still have loads of love for the original Flare shape, but the newer one looks great too, plenty of coverage.
How do they play compared to each other?
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Im still having troubles getting use to the kaha. The handle throws me off and being from australia it's very hard to play short stuff with it i have found. The flare started off kinda hard but it's getting a lot better the more i use it in the nets. The kaha and Flare are both around 2.11-2.12 and the mana is 2.7-2.8 So hopefully it isn't to hard to get adjusted to the weight of the mana.
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GM seem to make smaller bats than other makers, definitely in edge size. I haven't seen a huge light GM before when perusing the stands or looking at photos. Id be keen to proved wrong and see a huge light GM as per some Kookaburra and GN's.
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The flare is a wonderfully shaped bat from the GM range....
Yes perhaps not the massive edges of other brands but is that a negative?
Everyone I know who has a GM is happy with it, I think myself the new range and the older icon, halo, etc were excellent.
Customer service also found to be excellent and that's a big plus in my book. :)
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Ive never been fussed about huge edges on my bats. One of the main reasons i like gm so much is that they usually focus on distributing the weight on the edges which in return give the bats bigger shoulders which is a big plus in my books.
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Yeah, not a negative just an observation. I think if they did have a big bat option they might sell a few.
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Huh?? :o :o :o
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SALE-GM-DXM-f7-Original-Limited-Edition-Grade-1-English-Willow-Bat-45mm-Edge-/172747907783?hash=item283893e2c7:g:vt0AAOSwMvtZT9wA (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SALE-GM-DXM-f7-Original-Limited-Edition-Grade-1-English-Willow-Bat-45mm-Edge-/172747907783?hash=item283893e2c7:g:vt0AAOSwMvtZT9wA)
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Fake. Take a look at the CX cheaty grain bats for a comparison to this "GM"
Grain sheet on front and back is new for these guys
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Sorry, post wasn't clear. Two points, 1) It is fake, 2) This is the shady CX guy as far as I am aware, certainly sells a lot of CX
Fair enough, i gathered it was fake, that part was the obvious haha
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is the new Flare very different from the old Flare? seems like the 2017 version has a much flatter face, and much bigger edges?
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Ive never been fussed about huge edges on my bats. One of the main reasons i like gm so much is that they usually focus on distributing the weight on the edges which in return give the bats bigger shoulders which is a big plus in my books.
Just curious - why would you want big shoulders ?
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GM seem to make smaller bats than other makers, definitely in edge size. I haven't seen a huge light GM before when perusing the stands or looking at photos. Id be keen to proved wrong and see a huge light GM as per some Kookaburra and GN's.
I've seen and once used a bloody huge GM, Icon+ I think the range was a few years back? They were all big and the one I used was a glorious bat to boot.
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Just curious - why would you want big shoulders ?
I play cricket in country australia so i get a lot of short stuff. So i just like to have a bit of wood in the shoulders of my bats so i dont get cracks as easy. Pitches that are as hard as concrete aint fun haha.
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I've seen and once used a bloody huge GM, Icon+ I think the range was a few years back? They were all big and the one I used was a glorious bat to boot.
I presume they way they manufacture their bats prevents this (outside the aforementioned + models). Don't they just CNC then all to the same shape (for each model) and the weight is only decided by the density. I.e. they are all the same size?
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I presume they way they manufacture their bats prevents this (outside the aforementioned + models). Don't they just CNC then all to the same shape (for each model) and the weight is only decided by the density. I.e. they are all the same size?
Yeah that's usually right as far as I know, but they did do one model of biguns for a short while so they can make them if I fancy it. Guess they must not have sold well and that's why they stopped the range, certainly never seen many. I'm sure someone had one on the forum not too long ago, @uknsaunders maybe?
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Ive seen a few Pros GMs now and they are all very big (40+ edges, full profile and very thick shoulders), so they can make them I have just never seen a big GM in a shop or with a normal punter.
I did see however on an old GCCC youtube video that they stocked the Maestro which looked pretty big.
I would've though over the last couple of years they would've done very well selling a "larger" sized model.
All they need is a Chris Lynn type to use a GM Lynn player edition last couple of years and then sit back and collect peoples money.
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That is how I understand it and certainly they seem pretty uniform in store
Boy do they ping though!
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Love my GM Chrome been a stunner in T20 this year and replacing my UK made GN in kit bag this weekend. In terms of size mine isn't far off being what I call a "big bat i.e. 40mm edges) think it's 37mm and fairly full. Certainly goes very very well.
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The + model was approx 5mm bigger on the edges and spine. It was a chunky bat but not huge at 35mm edges and 67mm spine with some concaving. This was before the flat faces came in and 35-40mm edges were more common.
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Interestingly, I saw a GM Neon recently that was Ind made (for Ind market ofcourse) and it was full length and shape wasn't anywhere close to UK GM neon. It also had quite thick edges than normally seen in UK made ones. I am guessing even mana and kaha are full length for Ind made ones and shapes are different to their UK equivalents. Maybe Indian market hasnt really got on with the short blade bats.
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Quite generic Indian shapes by the looks of it???
Yes, mid/lower middles most of them..
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Got a chrome LE a couple of days ago from a friend who plays county cricket. Tapped up a few balls and did a mallet test. Does respond rather well. A friend had an 808 model from 2014/2015, an absolute plank so this was a pleasant surprise.
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I have seen and used several GMs from 404s to 909s from about 2012 models to last years and haven't seen a single plank, even the 404s/505s were absolute guns..Was really impressed with their consistency of pressing irrespective of willow grade. One difference I found between bats like SS/SG and GM is that with GM, if you "punch" the ball or try to use brute force, it will feel dead, but the moment you try to time it, it feels completely different like a gun. Even the tiny edge bats like the flare at 2-7 weights went ballistic. With SS however, "punch" will feel responsive . I think it is due to the harder pressing on the GM. And this is not a bad thing at all with GM/harder pressing as I found it forced me try to time all the balls which is actually a good thing, while with SS, I would be tempted to just brute force hit sometimes. Not to mention it will lead to more durable bat as long as you continue timing it...Interestingly, I once had a SS knocked in by a guy who used a lignum vitae mallet and really knocked it hard. And that particular bat also felt like the GM where timed shots would go well, but punch would feel dead. Maybe another thread for a discussion on this but an interesting observation to me on the difference in pressings and behavior.
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My chrome LE came with a round handle. From what I've read on here, I thought they all come in oval/semi-oval handles.
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@Ajdal my Chrome signature has what I'd call a semi-oval handle - it's not pronounced by any means, but isn't totally round either (which is good as I can't stand completely round handles!).
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@Ajdal my Chrome signature has what I'd call a semi-oval handle - it's not pronounced by any means, but isn't totally round either (which is good as I can't stand completely round handles!).
Mine seems round but I'll check again. No complains though as I prefer round.
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New batch of GM's at Kingsgrove look super tasty.... :o
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Chrome players are something special, I got 2 in that sold the first day!
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Chrome players are something special, I got 2 in that sold the first day!
Can you show us some photos? @Shinpathy of the Players?
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Chrome players are something special, I got 2 in that sold the first day!
Ross Taylor players edition?