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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: thedon on June 26, 2017, 08:35:03 AM
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Shouting/ hurling abuse at dropped catches/ misfielding has gradually kept into our team. There are a few guys that regularly do it. Had a word, but this is still continuing, so much so I'm not enjoying fielding. Apart from that, team spirit within our group is fine. As skipper of my previous club, I would never allow this type of behaviour, but I have seen this to be the accepted norm for many clubs for many years.
Does this take place in your team?
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No. it is not acceptable. No-one deliberately mis-fields or drops catches. In my team the comment is always "great effort, unlucky".
As the bible says "he who hath never made a mistake throw the first ball'.
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While i do not agree with publicly abusing someone over things like this. One of my former skippers said this to me.
He said that if guys are giving their best at training trying to improve, doing the work and drills, while it is frustrating they are giving the best they can. The ones who dont do the work, train hard and then get those results need to be brought in to line but not publicly
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On more than one occasion I have had to tell players to shut up and get on with the game this year over, in particular, overthrows.
I'm at the point where I have reached senior member status in the first team. We have a young team where most players are between 18-24 and the 'exuberance of youth' can sometimes take hold but as much as I hate them going at each other, I thoroughly detest having to go into teacher mode to get them to stop. (Mainly as the umpires in our league are always willing to dish out a few bans if things like this happen regularly)
Sledging is annoying enough but I think team mates bickering is the epitome of 'village'. (Or maybe this is an insult to village players...)
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I get annoyed on a Sunday by people not doing the basics.
I don't mind if people are giving 100% but when people are not backing up when the balls been thrown in and not paying attention in the field. cant remember where they are fielding for different batters it takes its toll. wandering in on boundary and then ball goes over there head.
0 patience.
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I get annoyed on a Sunday by people not doing the basics.
I don't mind if people are giving 100% but when people are not backing up when the balls been thrown in and not paying attention in the field. cant remember where they are fielding for different batters it takes its toll. wandering in on boundary and then ball goes over there head.
0 patience.
Agreed, no excuse for not doing the basics. If you're trying then fine no issues, if not then you deserve a bit of a talking to.
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Ive got no problem with other players to tell a day dreaming/lazy fielder to pick up their intensity etc. I think its more how its done. When it's just grumpy bickering , shouting , or personal then it's a bit off . But , by the same token , particularly at a high standard , it shouldn't be all 'link arms and sing kumbaya my lord' either.
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Our club doesnt do it we need to retain players not lose them by having a go. Abuse having a go at your teammates is unexceptable doesn't help them probably makes them more nervous no one drops a catch on purpose also not everyone as the fielding ability of Jonty Rhodes.
Rather than give them a mouthful Look for the positives in players and work with that.
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At times I have seen this in our club, I always feel there is a line to be trod and circumstances to be considered. there are a few guys in the club (across both teams) that people just have higher expectations of, they are very capable but sometimes just look "village" because they are not concentrating or don't seem to have the full commitment in that moment. I can completely see why the odd comment of frustration comes out in those circumstances but on the other hand everything has to be a balance and when any team has a balance of negativity (even when the game is going away from them) the battle for the match.. and possibly the retention of players.. is also a hard one to win.
As has been said, not all of us are world class players and when your playing at a level you have to accept the reason why most players are at that level is because of their skills.... once you can do that then everyone can get on with the game and actually have a laugh about it when someone dives over the ball in the field!
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I have seen players getting scolded for dropped catches or misfields and it does more harm than good, putting them under more pressure next time around. In fact, it comes to a point where no one wants a catch to come to them and i have seen cases when three fielders are in a position to take the same catch, and rather than shouting "mine", the fielders started shouting "yours" :) - effect of the fear of dropping the catch and getting reprimanded/being looked like a villian that cost team the game rather than just trying to make a good attempt at taking the catch...a very unfortunate situation i think..rather if one is always happy at the attempt made irrespective of the result, then fielders will start enjoying the game more, and they will hold onto some catches at least in future..at the end of the day, as non-professionals, if we don't enjoy the game irrespective of win/loss, then there is no point in playing it given that we spend so much time in the game on and off the field..
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I've dropped far too many catches to feel comfortable having a go at anyone else.
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Slagging off a team mate for misfielding or dropping a catch is totally out of order. We just give him a friendly ribbing, teflon gloves etc or try to encourage them to improve their catching technique. Every now and then the same player will take a great catch.
There's been a few times I dropped three in a game and then one year I dropped three out of twenty seven for the season total of 24, I was well chuffed.
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Often find the ones who complain often don't take responsibility for their own dropped catches.
A bloke i sometimes play with will often moan at drops off half-chances and yet every time he drops one it was " a really difficult catch" and is obviously never his fault.
He once dropped three incredibly straight forward catches at slip off my bowling in the space of about 4 overs, and then when it was raised in our 'fines' circle at the end of the game, was protesting that they were all barely chances.
Funnily enough he's the same bloke who thinks shouting " for f*** sake, just hit top of off!" will give bowlers magical accuracy powers.
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I have played with one of those.
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We wouldn't be playing 7th division if we could all take every catch and hit top of off every ball!
Don't know why guys like this still play, because everything warrants a rant!
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I find it similar to those people who throw their gear around when they get out. I just don't understand it. If it annoys you that much just give up and go shopping with your missus instead.
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You have to seen the intent of the ones who yell. If you get a hint of them acting way too entitled and feel that they deserve better than this ... its better to ask them to find a team. I would rather have a catch dropper in my team rather than someone who pisses off the team and it's spirit.
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Years ago we used to have a guy that forever cursed when you misfielded one hit like a rocket off his bowling. He would then sulk and not really bother even trying to stop anything off everyone else bowling, and lethargically chase after the ball. Best game though was when he opened the bowling and got taken apart by a couple of kids, he was taken off and I came on and bowled a maiden, I looked round to see him walking away shaking his head :D
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No place for that kind of thing in amateur sport at all, I know we all want to win and sometimes the heat of the moment gets to us but we need to encourage participation not scare people off by getting shouted at by the team d**khead. There's ways to gee fielders up without screaming at them just use the good old fashioned "let's back up this good bowling" "stay sharp in the field" blah blah blah, keeps the fielders switched on without being a (No Swearing Please) about it, at the end of the day we all pay to play, no one deserves to get abuse for it, if the wanted to get moaned at and get charged for the privilege they'd have gone shopping with the mrs :D
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So I dropped a catch yesterday and the guy went on to get 50.. I've probably dropped more than I've held this season and we have one bowler in our team who gets very vocal at dropped catches off his bowling, he is a really nice guy off the field but on the field he's a bit of a nightmare. It's got to the point where as the bowler is running in all I'm thinking is please don't hit at me. As soon as it comes to me I panic. The catches I have taken have generally been when its come to fast to think about it and I've just reacted. But its got so bad that I've made excuses about not being able to play for the first team so I can play in the seconds where its a lot more relaxed.
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Don't blame you not playing for the first team you want to enjoy your afternoon and not panic when the ball comes at you knowing an over excited bowler will gob off if you drop a catch after all you pay your match fee
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I rarely get complaints when I miss a stumping or drop a catch standing up but sometimes silence can be worse. Different players need different things, I like a bit of reassurance others like to be left alone. Can't think of anyone who wants abuse.
The other thing I don't understand is when something is counted as a drop when it isn't actually possible to catch it but you get close.
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The other thing I don't understand is when something is counted as a drop when it isn't actually possible to catch it but you get close.
It usually comes from the person who knows the least about keeping. Like a thick bottom edge that hits your shin and flies off down to third man when stood up, literally no chance of getting near it.
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I tend not to care when I drop a catch or miss something . If it a habit you wouldn't be in the team is my motto if you are not good enough.