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Title: Heavy legs
Post by: ppccopener on July 17, 2017, 09:15:19 AM
Had a frank conversation with a good team mate on saturday,having fielded 50 overs on saturday I was shredded before I could bat after tea
My legs felt like lead bars having stopped everything i possibly could in the field

My mate said i am not fit enough for the standard

Are very heavy legs the classic sign of poor fitness?
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: FattusCattus on July 17, 2017, 10:10:51 AM
I can't imagine you having a heavy anything - you are very petite!

Perhaps it's your vaping?  Aerobic capacity affecting your fitness, your blood flow to muscles etc?

Nothing a Thai massage wouldn't sort out at tea.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: roco on July 17, 2017, 10:26:21 AM
might just be that you have lost flexibility in muscles and the heavy legs are sore as can't bounce back after exercise

could be either really

I have found a massive difference on a Sunday just from doing Pilates
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: jonazax1717 on July 17, 2017, 10:52:16 AM
I Used to have this Problem  and still do at Times when i Attempt to Play Saturday and Sunday , for me a resolution Was High intensity Workout on a Static Bike In Intervals , Because my only exercise was cricket and it shouldn't be   , but this work out out is 15-20 mins(can send you the link if you want ) and you can get 5-6 miles done i was doing it 3 times a week it makes a massive difference especially if you are a Pace bowler just depends on the circumstances 
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: smilley792 on July 17, 2017, 11:04:04 AM
Do you have a enough energy?

Older you get the more you have to prepare, decent breakfast/dinner, full of slow burning cars to keep you going.



Apart from the 50 overs in the field, so you feel unfit?
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: ppccopener on July 17, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
I don't feel too bad smiley for 50 years old but cricket is my only excercise like @jonazax1717 has mentioned above

Weight wise Ive taken off half a stone over the last 6 months but at the standard I am trying to play in truth I could be fitter
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: InternalTraining on July 17, 2017, 12:01:55 PM
@ppccopener , there is one area that we cricket fielders neglect (especially at the amateur level) and that is proper hydration during fielding. Are you drinking enough water/gatorade (or UK version of the product) during the game?

Regarding fitness, if you really want to enjoy your weekend cricket, you need to be fit. No matter what level you are playing.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: smilley792 on July 17, 2017, 12:06:13 PM
@ppccopener , there is one area that we cricket fielders neglect (especially at the amateur level) and that is proper hydration during fielding. Are you drinking enough water/gatorade (or UK version of the product) during the game?

Regarding fitness, if you really want to enjoy your weekend cricket, you need to be fit. No matter what level you are playing.

In England we normally just get a poorly made cup of orange juice halfway through the innings.....
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: InternalTraining on July 17, 2017, 12:07:37 PM
I don't feel too bad smiley for 50 years old but cricket is my only excercise like @jonazax1717 has mentioned above

Weight wise Ive taken off half a stone over the last 6 months but at the standard I am trying to play in truth I could be fitter

Cricket is a great excuse/motivator to stay fit and benefits extends beyond just cricket. In my club we have some 50+ players; cricket has become an excuse/motivator for them to stay fit and these gents are fit!
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: ppccopener on July 17, 2017, 12:10:52 PM
@ppccopener , there is one area that we cricket fielders neglect (especially at the amateur level) and that is proper hydration during fielding. Are you drinking enough water/gatorade (or UK version of the product) during the game?

Regarding fitness, if you really want to enjoy your weekend cricket, you need to be fit. No matter what level you are playing.

@InternalTraining I'm still one of the best fielders in my team catches and actual technique wise I fling myself around unlike some half my age....as much as I was a bit miffed at the time you are dead right,my mate who I had a frank chat with is right, I am below the level I need to be at and a few home truths might do me some good
Hydration?  Not enough so that's an area..I carry lucozade to every match but yes could hydrate more

Appreciate all the comments, fitness has been neglected in truth and I can't get away with it at 50.

We have fielded twice for 50 overs in 30 degree heat and that has been very hard indeed
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: InternalTraining on July 17, 2017, 12:11:22 PM
In England we normally just get a poorly made cup of orange juice halfway through the innings.....

Not sure if you are being serious here...  :D
Well, we do carry our water bottles with us and hide them under 30 yard markers/cones when fielding. I have seen people use runners/marathoners' belt to tuck a water bottle to stay hydrated during the game. Yes, it looks "different" but I understand the need to not jeopardize performance or health over looks.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: edge on July 17, 2017, 01:03:33 PM
Not sure if you are being serious here...  :D
Well, we do carry our water bottles with us and hide them under 30 yard markers/cones when fielding. I have seen people use runners/marathoners' belt to tuck a water bottle to stay hydrated during the game. Yes, it looks "different" but I understand the need to not jeopardize performance or health over looks.
100% serious, every British clubbie will tell you it's a good game when you get proper squash ratios! Makes all the difference if your small cup of water for the innings is actually drinkable ha.

Opening bowlers will usually stash a bottle down at fine leg but it doesn't really work for anyone else as you don't know when/where you'll be on the boundary. Can't go putting bottles on the circle markers, what is that about!
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 17, 2017, 01:06:31 PM
Can't go putting bottles on the circle markers, what is that about!

Glad i'm not the only one who thought that was absurd.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: InternalTraining on July 17, 2017, 01:11:53 PM
Can't go putting bottles on the circle markers, what is that about!

We put bottles under these...

https://www.soccersavings.com/nike-training-cones-(10-pack)?SITE_ID=R1066&CID=PLA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwLHLBRDEARIsAN1A1Q6DCh8qGBDLM-uevGTSU84yuytpgfJkPqvupSc7b94tl9HIwFbg5hoaAsjOEALw_wcB (https://www.soccersavings.com/nike-training-cones-(10-pack)?SITE_ID=R1066&CID=PLA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwLHLBRDEARIsAN1A1Q6DCh8qGBDLM-uevGTSU84yuytpgfJkPqvupSc7b94tl9HIwFbg5hoaAsjOEALw_wcB)

^ We use them as 30 yard markers.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 17, 2017, 01:14:25 PM
We put bottles under these...

https://www.soccersavings.com/nike-training-cones-(10-pack)?SITE_ID=R1066&CID=PLA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwLHLBRDEARIsAN1A1Q6DCh8qGBDLM-uevGTSU84yuytpgfJkPqvupSc7b94tl9HIwFbg5hoaAsjOEALw_wcB (https://www.soccersavings.com/nike-training-cones-(10-pack)?SITE_ID=R1066&CID=PLA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwLHLBRDEARIsAN1A1Q6DCh8qGBDLM-uevGTSU84yuytpgfJkPqvupSc7b94tl9HIwFbg5hoaAsjOEALw_wcB)

^ We use them as 30 yard markers.

What happens when the ball hits them? If proper infield markers are hard/expensive to come by where you are, then just cut some off cuts of linoleum flooring into discs.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: InternalTraining on July 17, 2017, 01:25:07 PM
What happens when the ball hits them? If proper infield markers are hard/expensive to come by where you are, then just cut some off cuts of linoleum flooring into discs.

If a ball hits any object on the ground other than a marker, the fielding side is hit with a  5 runs penalty. Since people hide the bottle under the marker, ball hitting a marker (camouflaged bottled) doesn't result in a penalty although I have to say I have never seen a ball hitting a 30 yard marker (or a bottle under a marker).

We also use round disks which are the proper 30 yard markers but people still put bottles under them and place the marker at an angle on the ground with the disk side facing the pitch. People take their hydration very seriously, funny looking 30 yard disk markers are a negligible price to pay.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: petehosk on July 17, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
If you are fielding and it's a very hot/humid day then simply ensure that drinks are brought out every 15 overs. Or if really hot then every 10 overs!
No need to bring bottles onto the field IMO.
For bowlers bowling in boiling hot weather, simply ensure there is a water bottle waiting for them at fine leg/third man every 2 overs to keep them hydrated.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 17, 2017, 05:25:33 PM
100% serious, every British clubbie will tell you it's a good game when you get proper squash ratios! Makes all the difference if your small cup of water for the innings is actually drinkable ha.

I'd rather have a weaker squash than an overly strong one though...
Nothing worse than stopping for drinks midway through a spell, only for the orange to create a thirst rather than quench it!
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: GoodLeave on July 17, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
I'd rather have a weaker squash than an overly strong one though...
Nothing worse than stopping for drinks midway through a spell, only for the orange to create a thirst rather than quench it!

The struggle is real.

Round our way, the only "Orange" in the squash is the colouring. Feels like a punishment most of the time.

I'd rather have drinks out every 10 overs than be hiding bottles under disks/cones.

What happens if the ball ricochets off a cone/pitched disk and goes past a fielder for a boundary?
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 17, 2017, 05:46:34 PM
Having played cricket in the heat of Barbados and Australia as well as England, i cannot see the need to have a drink literally on your person or positioned on the 30 yard circle. If a drink simply must be on the field of play put it behind the keeper where the helmets are stored? Have a drink every over or 2 if really necessary.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Chalkie on July 17, 2017, 07:20:16 PM
Hydration is a big issue, especially for bowlers and batsmen on a long innings.

We usually have squash at 22 overs, but on very hot days move it to 15 and 30.  I have regularly opened the bowling this season, often 10-12 overs straight, so also put a water bottle at fine leg, it's essential. I have taken to adding one of those electrolyte tablets to it, doesn't taste great but really helps.

As I edge towards 50 I am also finding I need to do plenty of stretching before and after the game to minimise heavy legs and stiffness that evening and next day.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 17, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
Only play once a week  and  have  the same problem after fielding  it's due to using  certain muscles  and tendons They tighten  and   Your legs then tire  when I was playing 4 times a week didn't have a problem as always  flexible due to  reqular fielding
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: tommo256 on July 17, 2017, 08:02:03 PM
Wear compression tights, the decent ones from Canterbury
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Sivlar13 on July 17, 2017, 08:15:22 PM
Wear compression tights, the decent ones from Canterbury

I keep in SubSports ones, they're cheaper and decent!
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Bruce on July 17, 2017, 09:07:51 PM
Might sound silly but with the abnormally decent weather we've had I reckon the ground is a lot firmer than previous years which will tire the legs out further.
Foam rolling will help.
I picked up a foam roller and spikey massage ball for£14 posted on amazin last week
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: ppccopener on July 17, 2017, 09:13:39 PM
Might sound silly but with the abnormally decent weather we've had I reckon the ground is a lot firmer than previous years which will tire the legs out further.
Foam rolling will help.
I picked up a foam roller and spikey massage ball for£14 posted on amazin last week

I was thinking that as well Bruce, I don't normally get quite so bad leg ache as the last month fielding. I got decent adidas spikes but so suffer pretty bad pains in the heels.

Might try trainers this saturday but whatever I wear I'm going to warm up double and take on board a lot of fluid during the game.

i can't remember fielding on such hard ground either!
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on July 17, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
At my old club we used to keep drinks in the sprinkler covers just lift up and put back if your lucky enough to have those. I used to play at a level where you could field up to 64 overs and you need lots of liquids and I found banana's really helped used to eat at least two at the start and at lunch with lots of stretching in between im also a wicket keeper so warm down stretching was as important if not more so than warm up stretches.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: LBWCandidate on July 18, 2017, 12:16:09 AM
We put bottles under these...

https://www.soccersavings.com/nike-training-cones-(10-pack)?SITE_ID=R1066&CID=PLA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwLHLBRDEARIsAN1A1Q6DCh8qGBDLM-uevGTSU84yuytpgfJkPqvupSc7b94tl9HIwFbg5hoaAsjOEALw_wcB (https://www.soccersavings.com/nike-training-cones-(10-pack)?SITE_ID=R1066&CID=PLA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwLHLBRDEARIsAN1A1Q6DCh8qGBDLM-uevGTSU84yuytpgfJkPqvupSc7b94tl9HIwFbg5hoaAsjOEALw_wcB)

^ We use them as 30 yard markers.

We use similar markers. Some people keep water bottles under them or on the boundary lines since it is 37-38 degrees and humid.

Do some cardio at the gym, stretch before the game & in between overs, hydrate, wear good quality shoes and sit down when you get a chance.
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: play-yourself-in on July 18, 2017, 02:47:42 AM
Keep hydrated and make sure you stretch before, during and after the innings.  A banana or something with slow release carbs around 20/25 overs may well help too.  Yoga and Pilates are a great way to prolong a sporting career.  Ryan Giggs swore by yoga, and he had a very strenuous lifestyle both on and off the pitch!  ;)
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: hopwoodbear on July 18, 2017, 02:42:36 PM
i always wondered why bowling/fielding for 50 overs and 10/15/20 overs batting /umpiring took it out of me so much the next day

then i read up on the ridiculous distances you cover when bowling/fielding 50 overs and worked out i'm covering some serious mileage

swim the next morning helps but getting stiffer every year
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: LDifa on July 18, 2017, 03:31:15 PM
Using my apple watch I am able to track what I do, on Friday I did 9.2km in the field sweeping one boundary, and on Sunday I did 12.3km.

Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Calzehbhoy on July 18, 2017, 03:45:51 PM
@LDifa how do you cover it when you are fielding/batting?
Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: Northern monkey on July 18, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
I'm looking at those light adidas boots, sl whatever's to try and lighten the load a little
Picked a pair up in romida a coupla weeks ago and compared em weight wise to my asics, and they feel half the weight.
The outfields are rock hard at the minute, which adds to the impact etc

Fluids etc, there's a lot of conflicting advice out there regarding that.
I suppose it's better to drink something,(I prefer half a litre of water before the game) than nothing

Regarding fitness etc, listen to someone over 40, then they at least have an idea of what your going through

Title: Re: Heavy legs
Post by: InternalTraining on July 18, 2017, 04:14:27 PM
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Regarding fitness etc, listen to someone over 40, then they at least have an idea of what your going through

Yup, I did offer my 2 cents. :)