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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Sitonit on July 19, 2017, 10:47:56 PM
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I don't have the software to craft this but lets see if anyone can capture my imagination.
Starting with the toe = 40 mm thick and solid
Going up from the toe towards the mid, the first 2 inches with no concaving or spine.
Edge size starts to diminish and becomes about ~35 mm in the middle with significant concaving in the profile with a spine about 55 mm
The sweet spot or the middle of the bat, very, very high to balance out the thick toe.
Spine remains at about ~ 25 mm where it meets the handle
Shoulders about ~ 20 mm
A very deep Asian style bow in the profile
Roundish Handle
And obviously not more than 2.8 in hard pressed grade 3 willow.
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40 mm toe in 2.8 ounces or less. Good luck with it..
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I don't have the software to craft this but lets see if anyone can capture my imagination.
Starting with the toe = 40 mm thick and solid
Going up from the toe towards the mid, the first 2 inches with no concaving or spine.
Edge size starts to diminish and becomes about ~35 mm in the middle with significant concaving in the profile with a spine about 55 mm
The sweet spot or the middle of the bat, very, very high to balance out the thick toe.
Spine remains at about ~ 25 mm where it meets the handle
Shoulders about ~ 20 mm
A very deep Asian style bow in the profile
Roundish Handle
And obviously not more than 2.8 in hard pressed grade 3 willow.
I have seen a LW Signature in 2-10 with these specs. Trampoline of a bat but no bow. :)
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40mm toe, reducing edge and back gradually.....
Shape is called the Hammer Head.
Trampoline of a bat, but very much bottom heavy.
Mainly suitable for pitches of low bounce, set to pose
Difficulty to players in use on pitches with high bounce.
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Something like this? Your exact dimensions, would actually come out around 2lb9 with a standard density bit of willow (allow for a bit of guesswork on how much a handle weighs).
(https://s24.postimg.org/9cdsu8u2d/Untitled.png)
(https://s24.postimg.org/4usd0eeed/Untitled.png)
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Something like this? Your exact dimensions, would actually come out around 2lb9 with a standard density bit of willow (allow for a bit of guesswork on how much a handle weighs).
(https://s24.postimg.org/9cdsu8u2d/Untitled.png)
(https://s24.postimg.org/4usd0eeed/Untitled.png)
That's a good start.
Does your tool allow to put a bow in the profile?
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Sort of, much more complicated to do it properly or I can just do this
(https://s14.postimg.org/iradlyi3l/Untitled.png)
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Would be the worst pick up ever
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Must have really low bounce pitches to need a 40mm toe?
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That would pick up rubbish and I reckon you'd get a bit of flex/weakness where the spline is.
Only way that toe works is longer handle shorter blade
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I'm sure a mate of mine used to have a bat exactly like this... I think it was a Newbery. Massive toe.
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I'm sure a mate of mine used to have a bat exactly like this... I think it was a Newbery. Massive toe.
Millichamp & Hall did a similar shape about 10 years ago.
My mate used to have one, I cannot for the life of me remember the model name but I think it had grey stickers.
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This is why I don't really favour "a design your own bat" approach by clubbies. As I believe it takes away the batmakers skill and judgement when shaping to some extent. You cant buy experience.
Anyone ever hit a six off the toe end of the bat?
Why would you want a 40mm toe, in one of the deadest zones of a bat ?
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One question.....WHY???
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The toe sounds like the longer bladed mongoose.
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This is why I don't really favour "a design your own bat" approach by clubbies. As I believe it takes away the batmakers skill and judgement when shaping to some extent. You cant buy experience.
Anyone ever hit a six off the toe end of the bat?
Why would you want a 40mm toe, in one of the deadest zones of a bat ?
I agree.
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This is why I don't really favour "a design your own bat" approach by clubbies. As I believe it takes away the batmakers skill and judgement when shaping to some extent. You cant buy experience.
Anyone ever hit a six off the toe end of the bat?
Why would you want a 40mm toe, in one of the deadest zones of a bat ?
Maybe some clubbies are only good at using the toe and not the middle so blame the toe for being too thin for their shortcomings.
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a very bad idea...
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The toe sounds like the longer bladed mongoose.
Yep the Cor3 has pretty close to a 40mm toe, long middle, extended edges etc and is much nicer than this idea!
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Maybe some clubbies are only good at using the toe and not the middle so blame the toe for being too thin for their shortcomings.
Agreed! I have heard them quite a lot.
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The theory behind the Mongoose was the following:
Bigger toes = higher MOI = greater batted ball speed for bat weight
I accept batmakers have lots of experience and that should be taken into account. That said, there isn't much scientific about shaving a block of wood in pretty much the same way they have done for 100 years. We should continue to challenge that with bat designs and innovation.
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The theory behind the Mongoose was the following:
Bigger toes = higher MOI = greater batted ball speed for bat weight
I accept batmakers have lots of experience and that should be taken into account. That said, there isn't much scientific about shaving a block of wood in pretty much the same way they have done for 100 years. We should continue to challenge that with bat designs and innovation.
I'm a big fan of this line of thinking, not a theory unique to cricket bats either!
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The theory behind the Mongoose was the following:
Bigger toes = higher MOI = greater batted ball speed for bat weight
I accept batmakers have lots of experience and that should be taken into account. That said, there isn't much scientific about shaving a block of wood in pretty much the same way they have done for 100 years. We should continue to challenge that with bat designs and innovation.
What is MOI?
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This is why I don't really favour "a design your own bat" approach by clubbies. As I believe it takes away the batmakers skill and judgement when shaping to some extent. You cant buy experience.
Anyone ever hit a six off the toe end of the bat?
Why would you want a 40mm toe, in one of the deadest zones of a bat ?
Be a very boring world if we just accepted the bats given to us by batmakers though wouldn't it.
Enough plagiarism going on without becoming origin.
I like concept and design and hope people never stop tinkering even if it goes full circle
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That pick up won't work for me. It will feel like 2.12 even if its 2.8ish I think.
Laverwood Ultra might be closer to this profile but not such a massive toe.
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Moment of inertia. No strictly correct, but roughly "swing weight"/ pickup
Thanks.
Good article about "MOI": http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/bats/bat-moi-details.html (http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/bats/bat-moi-details.html)
#MOI
#MomentOfInteria
#SwingWeight
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IMO the craziest bat in existence with super low middle is Laver & Wood Legacy Ultra.
http://www.laverwood.co.nz/legacy_detail.php (http://www.laverwood.co.nz/legacy_detail.php)
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I would love to give one of they a go
Get a part made bat off a forum sponsor, shouldn't take too long to copy that shape - you only have to do the top end after all!
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IMO the craziest bat in existence with super low middle is Laver & Wood Legacy Ultra.
[url]http://www.laverwood.co.nz/legacy_detail.php[/url] ([url]http://www.laverwood.co.nz/legacy_detail.php[/url])
I used to use basically this. My mate had a puma that was an absolute cannon, he completely destroyed the toe beyond repair not wanting to throw away such a great bat (He was going to skip it) I cut off the bottom inch or two so the toe was now at the start of the middle.
We called it the PumeGoose and it absolutely flew!
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Not sure it works quite as simply as cutting off the bit below the middle and the toe now being as 'pinky' as the previous middle was!
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I don't have the software to craft this but lets see if anyone can capture my imagination.
Starting with the toe = 40 mm thick and solid
Going up from the toe towards the mid, the first 2 inches with no concaving or spine.
Edge size starts to diminish and becomes about ~35 mm in the middle with significant concaving in the profile with a spine about 55 mm
The sweet spot or the middle of the bat, very, very high to balance out the thick toe.
Spine remains at about ~ 25 mm where it meets the handle
Shoulders about ~ 20 mm
A very deep Asian style bow in the profile
Roundish Handle
And obviously not more than 2.8 in hard pressed grade 3 willow.
(https://i.gyazo.com/653030b5a721fe46a1042ea9d5310a73.png)
For you as asked....
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(https://i.gyazo.com/653030b5a721fe46a1042ea9d5310a73.png)
For you as asked....
Geezus.....Is there any wood behind those stickers??
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One of my friend got it made and shared this sometimes back .
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Internal trainings wet dream?
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Internal trainings wet dream?
You seem to be obsessed with my "wet dreams". I think you need some serious psychological help.
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(https://i.gyazo.com/653030b5a721fe46a1042ea9d5310a73.png)
For you as asked....
Looks heavy but impressive.
I would like have significant convacing starting two inches above the toe, and slightly reduced edge size where it's the biggest. Sweet spot also needs to be moved up north to counter balance the fat toe.
By yes, your bat sure does look scary.
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Maybe some clubbies are only good at using the toe and not the middle so blame the toe for being too thin for their shortcomings.
We have recently started playing cricket on asphalt pitches where spin bowling is not allowed.
There is no finding the middle of the bat. The ball pitches at regular length and appears in front of your nose. If it's yorker, it breaks the bat so you need to have a fat toe, or else you must have a very high middle to take the pacey balls in front of your chest.
This cricket is not for the faint hearted. May be you wanna join us in a game or two?
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You seem to be obsessed with my "wet dreams". I think you need some serious psychological help.
@InternalTraining .... dude , you missed a golden opportunity here . If you had just replied 'how much bow ? How thick is the toe?' you would have gotten 100 likes for that comment ! :D
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Looks heavy but impressive.
I would like have significant convacing starting two inches above the toe, and slightly reduced edge size where it's the biggest. Sweet spot also needs to be moved up north to counter balance the fat toe.
By yes, your bat sure does look scary.
This bat weighed 1100 grams. I would not call it a heavy bat.
Scary yes, my friend named it the ugly one.....
He is enjoying using it though....
Idea of concaving is only to get a desired weight, doesn't help
In anything else.
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We have recently started playing cricket on asphalt pitches where spin bowling is not allowed.
There is no finding the middle of the bat. The ball pitches at regular length and appears in front of your nose. If it's yorker, it breaks the bat so you need to have a fat toe, or else you must have a very high middle to take the pacey balls in front of your chest.
This cricket is not for the faint hearted. May be you wanna join us in a game or two?
Jeez, that sounds like a nightmare to play on.
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This bat weighed 1100 grams. I would not call it a heavy bat.
Scary yes, my friend named it the ugly one.....
He is enjoying using it though....
Idea of concaving is only to get a desired weight, doesn't help
In anything else.
I would beg to differ .... two bats the same weight , profile - basically all other things being equal , i would usually find the one with a bit more concaving more balanced .
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I would beg to differ .... two bats the same weight , profile - basically all other things being equal , i would usually find the one with a bit more concaving more balanced .
That's a Valid point, considering the dynamics of the bat.
You are right in saying what u say !!!
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This bat weighed 1100 grams. I would not call it a heavy bat.
Scary yes, my friend named it the ugly one.....
He is enjoying using it though....
Idea of concaving is only to get a desired weight, doesn't help
In anything else.
If it's 1100 grams then I would like to buy one as well. I thought it looked at least 3 lbs.
Can I get in touch with your friend to give his reference of this bat when placing an order with BDM?
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I am not sure if my friend is on this forum.
Try aditya mahajan on Facebook.
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Something like this? Your exact dimensions, would actually come out around 2lb9 with a standard density bit of willow (allow for a bit of guesswork on how much a handle weighs).
(https://s24.postimg.org/9cdsu8u2d/Untitled.png)
(https://s24.postimg.org/4usd0eeed/Untitled.png)
Have you talked to Laver guys yet? They already have something called Legacy which is quite similar to what you want.
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Have you talked to Laver guys yet? They already have something called Legacy which is quite similar to what you want.
Yeah I may drop them a line. Have had at least 4 custom made from L&W in the past which were OK.
Sent a message to AS Sports and waiting a reply - otherwise I was hoping to click n bait Dr. Bacon by this thread, but he never replied.
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@The Doctor
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I am not sure if my friend is on this forum.
Try aditya mahajan on Facebook.
Spoke to him today. (I previously have had conversations with him a few years ago, and his memory seems quite sharp).
He took the specs and the pic of your friend's bat where I photoshopped it to mark my specs. Let's see if he can come up with the design that I have in my mind?
This will be an interesting little project.
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Spoke to him today. (I previously have had conversations with him a few years ago, and his memory seems quite sharp).
He took the specs and the pic of your friend's bat where I photoshopped it to mark my specs. Let's see if he can come up with the design that I have in my mind?
This will be an interesting little project.
Good luck mate, sure it will be a stunner :)