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Title: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: brokenbat on October 19, 2017, 07:31:04 PM
Rohit stiffening up his bat (let the jokes flow) using tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwy_qCs4mo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwy_qCs4mo)
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: 19reading87 on October 19, 2017, 07:33:33 PM
Was just about to post this! Interesting
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: InternalTraining on October 19, 2017, 07:37:46 PM
Kranzies I have seen have medical tape on the handle, no twine binding. Maybe twine is a relic from the past and used because of tradition rather than function.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Seniorplayer on October 19, 2017, 08:16:41 PM
Kranzies I have seen have medical tape on the handle, no twine binding. Maybe twine is a relic from the past and used because of tradition rather than function.

That's  what I prefer  but having no twine  vibration  is no fun when you get a Yorker on the toe of the bat.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Woodyspin on October 19, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
@InternalTraining isnt it in the laws to use? Could be wrong!

Also those Nike shirts are lovely! Chelsea and England football have the same.

Do any forumites in india able to get hold of one or knows of a link... ?
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Woodyspin on October 19, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
Just checked

Providing Law 5.5 is not contravened, the upper portion may be covered with materials solely to provide a surface suitable for gripping.  Such covering is an addition and is not part of the bat, except in relation to Law 5.6.

5.5 being damage to the ball. 5.6 being contact. So i guess as long as its under the grip it doesnt matter what you use.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Umi on October 19, 2017, 08:51:35 PM
Any benifit of using medical tape on top of the binding, I assumed it’s to make the handle slightly thicker?
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: 19reading87 on October 19, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
Any benifit of using medical tape on top of the binding, I assumed it’s to make the handle slightly thicker?

Correct, instead of another grip
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: adb club cricketer on October 20, 2017, 12:53:11 AM
I observed adding medical tape on top of binding hardly increases thickness...Adding thicker second twine does a bit thicken at reduced weight increase compared to adding second grip.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Aussiecollector on October 20, 2017, 05:59:24 AM
Stu makes the handles this way to allow for whip in the shot , tightly bound bottom 1/3 then tape the rest of the way , slow motion camera shows the whip in great detail , & pro bats are customised to player prefernces.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: edge on October 20, 2017, 06:13:21 AM
Glad you said that Aussie, medical tape will be nowhere near as stiff as glued twine! Obviously adding it will add a tiny amount of stiffness, but only tiny. Even Rohit says he's doing it because the binding's coming loose on that bat.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Aussiecollector on October 20, 2017, 06:29:43 AM
Experience has shown that a lot of subcontinent bats have twine that has not been wound tight enough , GN's lathe machine breaks twine regularly  , it is wound tight.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Aussiecollector on October 20, 2017, 06:54:36 AM
(https://s1.postimg.org/197p6f2pbj/20170821_113018.jpg)   (https://s1.postimg.org/1lmbyfhwa7/20170821_113020.jpg)   

Twine snapped 4 times while doing this custom , there is an art in getting it perfect , & yes is was a cold 8deg in the bat room
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: InternalTraining on October 20, 2017, 02:17:39 PM
Glad you said that Aussie, medical tape will be nowhere near as stiff as glued twine! Obviously adding it will add a tiny amount of stiffness, but only tiny. Even Rohit says he's doing it because the binding's coming loose on that bat.

We should avoid that bat maker who clearly doesn't know how to apply twine on a handle! :D
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: InternalTraining on October 20, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
Stu makes the handles this way to allow for whip in the shot , tightly bound bottom 1/3 then tape the rest of the way , slow motion camera shows the whip in great detail , & pro bats are customised to player prefernces.

Are you saying that a flexible handle will hit the ball further than a stiff handle?
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: brokenbat on October 20, 2017, 03:04:23 PM
in the case of this video of Rohit.. he is clearly adding tape to the twine, to make it MORE stiff. he says "to hit shots, you need some stability in the handle". So his view is that too much flexibility leads to lost power.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Aussiecollector on October 20, 2017, 11:40:57 PM
There is a fine line between a stiff handle & one that has flexibility , a standard handle tries to accomplish both , each manufacturers does it differently , it is something the average player does not think about specifically, a correct handle can make a big difference to your game , everyone plays differently , GN AUS have invested a lot of time in this , hence why a custom players bat can be so different to anothers handle wise eg mike hussey always transferred his favourite handle from bat to bat
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: Churchy1989 on October 21, 2017, 11:33:42 AM
you could then go in-depth and look in to the Kippax Wavex handle..

https://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/product-launch/ (https://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/product-launch/)

having used one, it is definitely down to personal preference. I did not get on with it, felt like my wrists were going to break even when I timed the ball... this was also a shorter blade and I think that may have made a difference.
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: InternalTraining on October 21, 2017, 03:12:08 PM
you could then go in-depth and look in to the Kippax Wavex handle..

https://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/product-launch/ (https://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/product-launch/)

having used one, it is definitely down to personal preference. I did not get on with it, felt like my wrists were going to break even when I timed the ball... this was also a shorter blade and I think that may have made a difference.

Graph in the "Compare" section tells you nothing. What kind of a study is that? :D
Title: Re: handle stiffness (yet another thread)
Post by: uknsaunders on October 21, 2017, 03:18:18 PM
you could then go in-depth and look in to the Kippax Wavex handle..

https://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/product-launch/ (https://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/product-launch/)

having used one, it is definitely down to personal preference. I did not get on with it, felt like my wrists were going to break even when I timed the ball... this was also a shorter blade and I think that may have made a difference.

Had a kippax bat with a wavex handle and the middle on the bat felt tiny and tinny. Not sure if it was the handle or the user!