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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: manno on November 12, 2017, 04:48:08 AM

Title: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 04:48:08 AM
Hey all. Thought id share an update on where im at re giving some shaping a bit of a go. While im still quite a ways off actually putting steel to willow i have been picking up the odd tool here and there. One a little more "odd" than the rest......

Those with any experience using these types of tools feel free to let me know what you think and what else i might need.

Some of the basics. A good sturdy drawknife. A couple of old planes (yet to shape the soles), a small steel spoke shave and a much larger beech type. All pretty old but with plenty of life left in them.

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I got an old combi machine that has a nice spindle moulder on it that i could use for shaping the shoulders/toe. I also managed to find a 240V fixed base router and cast iron router lift and plate that i could use too. Will give both a run and see which leaves the best finish. Ideally id love a big twin spindle unit like a Wadkin... maybe one day...

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Old and bloody hard to find 240V porter cable router with benchdog router lift.

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Small bandsaw and a big old cast iron lathe that i can use for binding handles.

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I also came across a nice solid cast iron workbench that i had to have. Weighs a tonne!

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So thats a few of the very basic tools and machines that ive managed to get so far, none of its flash and some needs a bit of work, but over all im fairly happy. I love the idea of one day, shipping a part-made that ive shaped back across to the UK to be used! :)



Oh yeah, and then theres this.........  ;)

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Cheers. Manny.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: JB on November 12, 2017, 07:45:28 AM
Looks a good set up!! You must have a good sized workshop!
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 08:14:48 AM
Looks a good set up!! You must have a good sized workshop!

Thanks JB. Its getting there. The workshop is the issue though. Renting at the moment so i cant really set up until we have our own place. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Northern monkey on November 12, 2017, 09:06:42 AM
I used to live hundred yards from The Wadkin factory.

You've got the beginnings of a decent little bat making business.

I started with probably the hardest bit, by trying to build a press
When I started 4yrs ago, I had a nice double size garage with power and lighting
I'm now down to a small shed, so the press takes up all the room,(I'm gonna dismantle it)
I do enjoy working outside when the weathers decent, so I'm looking into making a shave horse and seeing if that works for cleft shaping.
Only thing is I've covered most of the garden in dust.
I've no intention of selling bats, it's purely to test out shapes and pressing etc for my own curiosity

Good luck with it all and look forward to seeing pictures of your workshop
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 10:18:28 AM
Thanks Northern monkey. Jealous! Id kill to have a workshop filled with big old wadkin pattern making machines. Wadkin PK slider, twin spindle EQ, huge 28" surface planer..... its the dream.   :)

Good to see you making the most of the space youve got now, and it makes me rethink the prospect of having to wait until i have my own purpose built space. Maybe something makeshift until then. And you jumped right in with a press. Thats unreal! Id love to play around with that side of things. Maybe one day. There was actually a complete, working press for sale on gumtree here in Aus a while back that i had my eye on but thought i may be biting off more than i could chew. For now id be happy just to try and shape something that id be happy to use. I like your shave horse idea too, id never heard of them until id seen a few drawknife resto vids. Obviously an american thing but im sure they could be easily adapted to use on bats.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Northern monkey on November 12, 2017, 10:40:02 AM
I've got a coupla ideas regarding cheaper easier presses
Maybe using a pillar drill turned on its side?

The shave horse really appeals .
I was shaping a cleft on Friday outside,just holding it between my feet , with the handle against my chest, but I've now got a bruised chest, so not my brightest idea.

I'd love a workshop like Julian millichamps.

I'm also very lucky to work for the uk,s largest hair and beauty furniture manufacturers so I do have access to whatever woodworking machinery I need and I also have a coupla mates who have carpentry business
But, I like just grabbing a part made and sitting on the patio and whittling away at it
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 12:13:02 PM
Some great connections there mate. And i like your idea for a press. If i ever look at going that path ill likely have to come up with something diy. The secondhand press i saw was not cheap.  :o
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: tom line on November 12, 2017, 12:32:31 PM
Hey @manno
Excuse the nativity but what's in the box of the last photo?
At first I thought it was a festool sander but on a second glance I don't think so
Thanks.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Gurujames on November 12, 2017, 12:35:08 PM
It's a cooler for the beers
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 12:43:55 PM
Hey Tom, no its not the festool. Thats burried somewhere in the garage. Gurujames - logical assumption. But no, its not that either.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: edge on November 12, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
Guessing you're not showing the inside of the box because it's a bloody mess inside.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
The mother in laws severed head?  ;)
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: jblowe on November 12, 2017, 01:50:32 PM
I like just grabbing a part made and sitting on the patio and whittling away at it

Makes a change from clogs and spoons
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Northern monkey on November 12, 2017, 02:47:36 PM
Don't give me ideas!ha
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Northern monkey on November 12, 2017, 02:48:29 PM
Gotta be a nice sander in the box???
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 12, 2017, 03:10:34 PM
Oh yeah, and then theres this.........  ;)

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"Simply eat well"
You've just taken delivery of a frozen turkey for Christmas, haven't you...  :D
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: alexhilly1492 on November 12, 2017, 03:16:18 PM
Horse shin bone?
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Cow_corner on November 12, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
I have some Files in Catia V5 R20 for a splicing jig if you need it ( can convert to Iges)
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: jamesisapayne on November 12, 2017, 03:34:54 PM
Horse shin bone?

Good shout, sat in a bath of linseed oil.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 06:45:26 PM
Northern monkey, i wish it were a nice sander. Thats still on the christmas list. WalkingWicket37 your getting warmer.....think Tesco burgers. But yeah, Edge gets the points (for the accuracy of his post) back on page one, DorsetDan too. And James, alexhilly1492 is only about a third right.... a shin bone. Sure, theres a shin in the box. Thats what i asked for when i made the call to a local knackery. "I've just done one this morning mate". Thats handy, great timing i thought. What i found myself holding aloft, walking back to my car with was not at all what i had imagined though....



Giddy-up!  :o

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I wont go into great detail of how i made the leg fit into our freezer, or what i must have looked like doing it, except to say, that if the kids had of walked out and seen what dad was doing on the porch that night im certain they'd be scared for life. Anyway, its about tea time over there isnt it? :) Enjoy.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: Northern monkey on November 12, 2017, 07:04:05 PM
I've just turned vegan!
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 12, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
I've just turned vegan!

I thought you were made from 'ard stuff up Norfff.
I'm now rather hungry...
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 12, 2017, 09:55:12 PM
Ive still gotta boil it up. Not sure thats gonna be very pleasant.....

Forgot to mention ive also got a pedestal with bench grinder to for finishing. The grinder needs to be replaced because ive been told its underpowered for what i need. Any ideas on the sort of HP ill need?
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: edge on November 13, 2017, 12:31:44 AM
Wow, even though I knew what was coming I still wasn't prepared for those photos 😂 Top dedication @manno, either I'm having some serious déjà vu or there is a topic on the forum somewhere on obtaining and preparing a shin bone, may well be worth a search! Enjoy the commitment to preparation before starting shaping bats, if you take the same approach when it comes to the willow I'm sure the bats will be impressive!
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 13, 2017, 03:53:36 AM
YOU werent prepared??? I had to de-hoof a horses leg!! 😂 I think i might have started that thread about prepping the bone. I'll have a search. I think it was suggested that boiling it was the way to go. And i think the linseed bath is an alternative that does the same job, basically just done to break down any remaining meat to leave a clean bone. Im not sure if it does anything more than that but ill still probably soak it for a while after ive cooked horse soup. Just because i can. :) I also have no idea how the bats are going to turn out but, i just hope they will be worth sharing.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 13, 2017, 12:50:25 PM
I have some Files in Catia V5 R20 for a splicing jig if you need it ( can convert to Iges)

Send me a pm if you can pls mate. Would love to see the design you came up with. 👍
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: JK Lewis on November 15, 2017, 08:50:53 PM
Just catching up with this. Nice one manno. Massive respect for your dedication to the traditions! Good luck with it all.
Title: Re: The tools!
Post by: manno on November 16, 2017, 12:38:25 AM
Thanks for the kind words Justin.