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Title: Tennis elbow.
Post by: sanredrose on December 10, 2017, 04:55:34 AM
Anyone playing cricket with tennis elbow problems? How do you deal with it - longer recovery time or complete rest/therapy? Any tips and tricks on improving my situation?
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Post by: jblowe on December 10, 2017, 08:30:52 AM
Anyone playing cricket with tennis elbow problems? How do you deal with it - longer recovery time or complete rest/therapy? Any tips and tricks on improving my situation?

@sanredrose. I had it a few years back, went to a sports physiotherapist, did the exercises and a little rest as prescribed. It was gone in 4 weeks

These are similar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAcGG0M--TM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAcGG0M--TM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vk3i22z3Ko (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vk3i22z3Ko)
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Post by: Seniorplayer on December 10, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
I've have it get flare ups rest works for me.
Title: Re: Tennis elbow.
Post by: Northern monkey on December 10, 2017, 10:13:08 AM
Tons of threads on here about it unfortunately
I struggle with it too

TBH batting kills me,
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Post by: beaver5 on December 10, 2017, 10:16:04 AM
Had it very badly some years back. Had acupuncture which cleared it up and has never come back.
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Post by: sanredrose on December 10, 2017, 05:31:51 PM
@jblowe @Seniorplayer @Northern monkey @beaver5 - Thanks all for your inputs. Did you suffer tennis elbow on the top hand or bottom hand? For me its the top which makes it more confusing, because most people have these problems with their bottom hand.
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Post by: Northern monkey on December 10, 2017, 05:38:17 PM
Both
And dodgy wrists too

I just try to limit batting to match days

There's tons on YouTube and on here

I've also started exercising with kettle bells and stretching a lot more
I drive a lot so I try and move my hand position on the steering wheel etc

Basically find out the causes and limit them
Then work on treatment
Title: Re: Tennis elbow.
Post by: sanredrose on December 10, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
@Northern monkey - Thanks. Will search CBF threads for more videos.
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Post by: sanredrose on December 10, 2017, 06:01:54 PM
Did anyone make any kit changes because of tennis elbow? I mean did you start using lighter weight bats or apply an elbow strap or something during batting?
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Post by: Seniorplayer on December 10, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
Top hand can't use any bat over 2lb 7 ounce  have to use an high mid middle the lighter the bat the lesser the pain. Full S/H at 2lb 4 ounce keeps me pain free.
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Post by: Northern monkey on December 10, 2017, 07:28:53 PM
I'm down to a 2.8
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Post by: ppccopener on December 10, 2017, 07:50:03 PM
2.8 , 2.9 max plus full tuba grip on the right arm helps.

Regular exercises as given by the physio I saw who called it golfers elbow(another thread on this)

I still have it but it's eased, cannot throw over arm any longer thou, so made myself a specialist gully  :)
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Post by: Boondougal on December 10, 2017, 08:54:13 PM
I’ve been suffering from this during the off season walking around the house innings. Starting to worry me for the summer.

But so far i’m still 147 not out and have been playing my forward defensive and leg flick without fault!!!

Does hurt though.
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Post by: sanredrose on December 10, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
Weight drops do look significant. I better fix my elbow issues and work on strengthening the muscles. I will keep this thread posted on my progress.
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Post by: adb club cricketer on December 10, 2017, 10:47:58 PM
I observed I got tennis elbow when I experimented with thin handle bats the first time or holding the handle high like Gilchrist for a short blade bat to compensate the length. After I went back to regular SH with medium thick handle and my regular middle of handle grip, it went away. Of course I have always only used 2-7 or 2-8 max.
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Post by: jayralh on December 11, 2017, 10:37:54 AM
Anyone playing cricket with tennis elbow problems? How do you deal with it - longer recovery time or complete rest/therapy? Any tips and tricks on improving my situation?

i suffer with tennis elbow during the season but i cant stop playing. so its always there but i recover completely in off season. here are few tips though that work for me

i used have lot of pain when throwing the ball in fielding and due to that my throw wasn't great.  so i figured out that if i am using my shoulder and hip when throwing it doesn't put stress on elbow. it saves jerking the elbow joint and my throw has improved a lot as i more power into it due to using more muscles .

i avoid using laptop computer and mobile phones as when we work on them we don't have support under elbow. if you work on desk then get something to rest your elbow upon while using keyboard or mobiles.

i use some kinds wrap or band to put on elbow during match . i don't know how does it work but it certainly helps.

Avoid any jerking or pushing movements to avoid stress on elbow joint . If you go to gym warm up thoroughly before tricep workout or any other that involve elbow. i.e. shoulder, chest.
     
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Post by: Nothing2SeeHere on December 12, 2017, 05:09:49 PM
Have had tennis elbow on both arms  (and golfers once too) over the years from playing badminton.

If it doesn't get too bad you can rehabilitate completely. Last time it took about 4-6 weeks of doing the 'Super 7' exercises (shown in the youtube vids above or google super 7 tennis elbow).

The supports help for exercising but best to avoid using them when possible as they only mask the symptoms. The horse shoe shape ones are best (http://www.healthandcare.co.uk/golf-supports-accessories/T48001120203205.html (http://www.healthandcare.co.uk/golf-supports-accessories/T48001120203205.html) like this) though all types need to be carefully positioned to work properly.

The pain is as a result of inflammation in the tendons so you need to remove the inflammation and strengthen the correct muscle groups. Normal procedures for removing the inflammation (though personally I wouldn't bother with anti-inflammatories as I don't think there is enough blood flow to tendons - others may know better). Start slowly with the exercises and only build as you can manage (slowly and only in such a way that you don't reintroduce inflammation (pain)). The exercises will promote healing - by getting blood flow to the injured tendons.

Takes a bit of time but if you are careful and dedicated there is every chance you can rehabilitate before the start of the season. Pay for a physio if you aren't good at self motivation. The £200 you'll pay to get someone to adjust your programme throughout may be worth it to be fit for the new season.

Good luck and keep at it even when you get slight setbacks during your recovery period - it happens to everyone.
Title: Re: Tennis elbow.
Post by: sanredrose on December 12, 2017, 05:27:52 PM
@Nothing2SeeHere @adb club cricketer @jayralh - Thanks a lot folks. Let me give it a shot and see if it helps!