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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: mo_town on December 14, 2017, 04:01:41 PM

Title: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: mo_town on December 14, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
I am considering removing the scuff sheet off my bat and use it without one but worried if that will have a negative effect on the bat's life.

What are the pros and cons of not using a scuff sheet? Does everyone apply one to their bats or are there folks who are against scuff sheets?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: jamferg on December 14, 2017, 04:17:54 PM
I tried that as I do like a naked bat,  invariably you'll get an edge crack though so I've gone back to a decent helicopter scuff sheet
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: mattw on December 14, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
I'd always recommend a scuff sheet when using a new bat (that's been knocked in) to add extra support. I normally have a scuff sheet on bats when they're new and then remove them (and sand/refurb) after about a season. However I've noticed that naked bats tend to crack easier than those that have scuff sheets applied.

Having a scuff sheet applied is always going to help support the bat and realistically the performance difference is hardly noticeable if you don't have one on. It also helps the bat looking like new every time you remove it and re-apply a new one.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Northern monkey on December 14, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
Depends on balls too
I hate scuff sheets, but in our league , any team can use , any cheap bat breakers they want
A scuff will help in that respect
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Umi on December 14, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
Applying a scuffsheet adds a bit of weight if you’re really fussy about particular weight
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: KW9221 on December 14, 2017, 06:35:03 PM
Depends on balls too
I hate scuff sheets, but in our league , any team can use , any cheap bat breakers they want
A scuff will help in that respect
I agree with you. My league owner gets balls which is $2 max. I didn’t use scuff sheet before and now I don’t even use any Bat without scuff on it.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on December 14, 2017, 07:04:16 PM
Just use edge tape, very unlikely to crack in the face if prepared properly
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 14, 2017, 09:15:42 PM
Although they help prevent damage Not a fan of scuff as like to see the bare wood   also some say ball rebound is not as good  off the bat face would always use edge tape though.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: jd163 on December 14, 2017, 09:40:25 PM
From personal experience i don't feel any difference in performance with of without scuff sheet specially in nets & matches. Ping test might give a bit different sound.

My only bats with no scuff sheets are 4-5 grainers & Butterfly willow.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: sanredrose on December 14, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
IMO it's more of a personal preference. I like fiberglass scuff sheet on my bats.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 14, 2017, 11:03:18 PM
Performance wise it's a 1-3mm thick sheet, it makes literally no difference whatsoever regardless of what some bloke down the pub has said.

Protection wise  I find it makes enough of a difference to be deemed worthwhile, and is thoroughly encouraged by me on a personal level (with the correct knocking in before application!)

Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: KW9221 on December 15, 2017, 02:45:32 AM
Protection wise  I find it makes enough of a difference to be deemed worthwhile, and is thoroughly encouraged by me on a personal level (with the correct knocking in before application!)
This brought us to another question. Some of the lower range bats come with scuff sheet fitted when you buy them. Should you remove scuff sheet before knocking? Does it make any difference with knocking?
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: edge on December 15, 2017, 08:06:35 AM
Performance wise it's a 1-3mm thick sheet, it makes literally no difference whatsoever regardless of what some bloke down the pub has said.
It's not even close to 1mm, never mind 3!

Not a clue why you wouldn't use a scuff, remove and refurb every so often if you're really worried about your bat's welfare but the benefits are obvious and the negatives, er...
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: iand123 on December 15, 2017, 08:30:58 AM
Performance wise it's a 1-3mm thick sheet, it makes literally no difference whatsoever regardless of what some bloke down the pub has said.

What pubs do you go in where people are talking about performance degradation of a cricket bat when using a scuff sheet?  :)
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: velvetsky01 on December 15, 2017, 09:53:47 AM
Have always been a "Naked Bat" guy but this last year I have been scuffing my bats - I think that is because I have alot more bats now (thanks to the forum!) so to keep on top of the maintaince is harder as I like to use all my bats now. Also provides peace of mind too that they are protected alot more.

They are very easy to remove too - using a hairdryer to heat the glue - always peel away across the grain tho. Take your time. Use some white spirit to remove the glue. Then sand and oil/ wax
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Kulli on December 15, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
I've never really noticed any more damage to my blades since I started using them without antiscuffs. I stopped as I like to glue and tidy up any cracks as they appear rather than at the end of the season.

also saves a fair wedge of cash that can be spent on more bats!
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: Boondougal on December 15, 2017, 11:27:23 AM
This brought us to another question. Some of the lower range bats come with scuff sheet fitted when you buy them. Should you remove scuff sheet before knocking? Does it make any difference with knocking?

I watched a Julien Milchamp you tube video where he basically says if applying a scuff sheet then knocking in only takes about half the time.. I threw me at first but does make some sense he more I think about it.

Although I would say boneing the edges is not really possible with a scuff on so if it needs more in that area than has come from the factory then it might be worth removing and reapplying.


Personally on my fav bats I don't have a scuff sheet and as I have been trending towards lighter bats I have been ditching the scuff and the toe guard for weight as much as anything else... my utility bat - the one I use in nets or wet weather has a scuff - after all its a great way of keeping the moisture out of the blade. I would also say for th e5/6 refers I did last year a scuff sheet definitely did a great job at keeping cracks together and protecting edges. Just have to be careful removing it when the surface underneath isn't stable.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: mattw on December 15, 2017, 12:25:17 PM
I watched a Julien Milchamp you tube video where he basically says if applying a scuff sheet then knocking in only takes about half the time.. I threw me at first but does make some sense he more I think about it.

Although I would say boneing the edges is not really possible with a scuff on so if it needs more in that area than has come from the factory then it might be worth removing and reapplying.

I would always recommend knocking in a bat before applying a scuff sheet. On my personal bats, I only lightly knock them in and apply a scuff sheet to continually test the durability of bats from our bat maker (as inevitably we're going to get customers that don't knock in bats before using them) - however for all of the bats that I knock in for customers, I always knock bats in fully before applying a scuff sheet. I've previously knocked bats in after applying a scuff sheet before - but these have been prone to cracks appearing. Whilst these may have been exceptions - since I've knocked in every bat before applying a scuff sheet, there have been no issues with premature cracks.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: JK Lewis on December 22, 2017, 08:26:53 PM
I never use a scuff sheet, they're too smooth. Do your team a favour, take the shine off the ball quicker by leaving the bat face bare and gently roughing it with 80 grit sandpaper.
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: JB on December 22, 2017, 08:44:09 PM
I never use a scuff sheet, they're too smooth. Do your teama favour, take the shine off the ball quicker by leaving the bat face bare and gently roughing it with 80 grit sandpaper.

Never thought of it like that
Title: Re: Scuff sheet or not...is the question
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 23, 2017, 12:09:23 AM
I never use a scuff sheet, they're too smooth. Do your teama favour, take the shine off the ball quicker by leaving the bat face bare and gently roughing it with 80 grit sandpaper.

Or just buy an M&H  ;)