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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: NT50 on December 29, 2017, 03:27:59 PM
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Just found out that at our league AGM in November, there was a proposal for Divisions 3&4 (lowest Saturday divisions) to adopt a 'no LBW' rule (i believe it was put forward as a proposal from the ECB)
Predictability it was outvoted 13-1, but it baffles me that it was even put forward in the first place, given that there's only one team in our league who are cheaters when it comes to the LBW rule, and thankfully they've moved into a different league system this year!
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I'd love to play in a no LBW league
Stand in front and don't worry about missing it :D
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I'd love to play in a no LBW league
Stand in front and don't worry about missing it :D
So would our number 11 who takes an off-stump guard and then stands slightly outside!
Still manages to get bowled most weeks :D
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Our now defunct indoor league had a no lbw rule.
To the really quick good bowler's, I used to stand square on covering the stumps and scoop everything.
As we also had a no caught of the wall rule...... So all helped.
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Id walk out to bat with two bed mattresses strapped to my legs, then take a Chanderpaul stance in front of the stumps and just swing like crazy . Happy days .
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If no LBW, then it'd be fair to remove any bouncer/beamer rules and no ball rule as well.
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To be fair, in lower leagues where you have opposition players umpiring, how many times does one actually get a positive response for an LBW appeal.
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If no LBW, then it'd be fair to remove any bouncer/beamer rules and no ball rule as well.
Yeah, that seems fair.
Remove LBWs but attempted murder by bowling a beamer off 16 yards becomes fine...
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^ You can wrap yourself in body armor if you are afraid, but at your level, you won't need it.
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^ You can wrap yourself in body armor if you are afraid, but at your level, you won't need it.
What level do I play then champ? Having played with and against internationals it must be shocking, eh?
Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're the one who admitted to using football cones to mark the 30 yard circle. That's the hallmark of a high standard... ;)
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If you removed LBW then I’d literally stand on off stump and then the only dismissal would be caught. Stupid idea yet again
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I've heard this suggesyed for games of friendly cricket in which I've been involved. It's a totally ridiculous idea. I made it clear that I would refuse to play a game adopting these rules
I'm surprised the ECB is encouraging it. What message is it sending out? We can't trust each other not to cheat?
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Yeah, that seems fair.
Remove LBWs but attempted murder by bowling a beamer off 16 yards becomes fine...
Or just have a fight?
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What level do I play then champ? Having played with and against internationals it must be shocking, eh?
Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're the one who admitted to using football cones to mark the 30 yard circle. That's the hallmark of a high standard... ;)
You seem very confused and angry about the point you are trying to make. Keep at it. It will happen, someday.
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I've heard this suggesyed for games of friendly cricket in which I've been involved. It's a totally ridiculous idea. I made it clear that I would refuse to play a game adopting these rules
I'm surprised the ECB is encouraging it. What message is it sending out? We can't trust each other not to cheat?
To be fair when sides provide their own umpires you're effectively playing no LBWs anyway. That's the joy of having neutral panel umpires, it eradicates that particular quirk of cricket
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To be fair when sides provide their own umpires you're effectively playing no LBWs anyway. That's the joy of having neutral panel umpires, it eradicates that particular quirk of cricket
When I umpire, I give every decision as I see it. Why wouldn't you? You are cheating if you don't. I'm not interested in winning games of cricket by cheating. Anyone who is, is a (No Swearing Please).
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When I umpire, I give every decision as I see it. Why wouldn't you? You are cheating if you don't. I'm not interested in winning games of cricket by cheating. Anyone who is, is a (No Swearing Please).
I totally agree with you mate.
Unfortunately plenty of others don't see it that way.
Does a victory not feel hollow when you've cheated to get there? I'd have thought so, but what do I know anyway...
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When I umpire, I give every decision as I see it. Why wouldn't you? You are cheating if you don't. I'm not interested in winning games of cricket by cheating. Anyone who is, is a (No Swearing Please).
Agreed
However, as we know most players and teams will happily use ‘gamesmanship’ to win or blatantly cheat. Winning is their only priority and it’s where a lot get their entire enjoyment from
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To be fair when sides provide their own umpires you're effectively playing no LBWs anyway. That's the joy of having neutral panel umpires, it eradicates that particular quirk of cricket
Granted it was a friendly so I might’ve acted different in a league game but, I opened in one friendly game and got out fifth ball so umpires most of the innings and I gave my teammate out LBW because he was boring me silly and I was in a terrible mood so the above statement isn’t totally true!! And in another friendly game I gave a teammate out LBW because he gave me out in a league game a few weeks before even though I hit it so I stopped liking him for a while! Basically I hate my teammates.
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Midweek league. There's barely enough umps for premier. So we certainly Don't get many I'm division A.
One week, guy puts foot down track, hits his pads. We half appeal and go back to our marks.
Batsmen wondering off muttering under his breath.
Look and umPires got his finger up. We just all started laughing.
Was first lbw we got since we joined the league in 2010! Nobody was expecting it, not sure it was even close......
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I genuinely couldn’t bear to play in the leagues you're all describing.
Of course when providing your own umpires you’re going to get a few less LBW decisions, but if it’s hitting all three then it’s got to be given out. What’s the point otherwise?
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There’s a couple of umpires in our league that rarely give lbw’s so when you’re given you know you’re plumb. I respect that and walk off, the others raise their fingers on the strength of the appeal
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I rarely get down about losing a game of cricket. I often get down about the way a game of cricket has been played.
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I get down about not having the effect on a game of cricket that I’m capable of, if I don’t play as well as I can for the team it makes me angry. I love to win and hate to lose, anyone who takes a loss easily shouldn’t be playing team sports
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There’s a couple of umpires in our league that rarely give lbw’s so when you’re given you know you’re plumb. I respect that and walk off, the others raise their fingers on the strength of the appeal
There's an umpire in our league who is known as Trigger.
You pencil in a couple of LBWs and a run out when you see he's due to be at your game :(
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I try my hardest to win. That's all you can do. But I have no interest in winning by cheating.
Accepting defeat graciously is not the same thing as lying down and giving in.
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anyone who takes a loss easily shouldn’t be playing team sports
Completely disagree... A lot of us are unfortunately not lucky enough to earn a living from these team sports. For me a game of cricket is testing myself but more about enjoying a few hours with my mates. Naturally I want to win but if we don't I've still got work on a Monday morning so it's a shrug of the shoulders and onto the next week.
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I’m unfortunately not built like that, every single game I play be it with one of my children in a board game, a game of squash with one of my mates or a game of cricket with my mates. I’ve got a will to win with all of them. If you haven’t got a level of competitiveness when It comes to a close game you are going to roll over and give in!! I’ve gone in with 30 to get off 2 overs in cup games and done it because I always believe that there is a way to win. If I was indifferent then we would probably have lost those games
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I rarely get down about losing a game of cricket. I often get down about the way a game of cricket has been played.
100%
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, anyone who takes a loss easily shouldn’t be playing team sports
Tripe and a very sad way to look at sport
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Agree, if you have to take everything that competitively it's a little bit embarrassing, no?
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Being competitive and being a (No Swearing Please) loser are very different things, don't let anyone try and trot that out as an excuse! Being competitive is about competition, not winning - I'd much rather play a close loss than a facile win. If you can't deal with losing then sport is not for you, let's be honest.
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[quote author=edge link=topic=43515.msg697407#msg697407 date=1514597479 Being competitive is about competition, not winning - I'd much rather play a close loss than a facile win. If you can't deal with losing then sport is not for you, let's be honest.
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And it’s about being competitive with yourself more than anything too, inner competitiveness. Always makes me laugh when people say they have to act a #£-=-+ to get ‘up’ for a game.. no, you’re just being a tool fella.. that’s not competitive at all.. Just being a tool
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Imagine a team chasing 120 being 30-9 inside 15 overs and being the no11 that takes an off stump guard amd squares himself up, and just stands there and doesnt even attempt to hit the ball for 30 overs. Not only does no LBWs make zero sense it also rules out bowled for 95% of batsman. I bet if you total up the wickets are taken by lbw and bowled they would outweigh caught, 43 to 40% the other 7% being run out/stumped. Given the circumstance above i would be 100% certain i wasnt getting out. Rule out bowled and lbw plus not even attempting to hit the ball i would never get caught. If i dont hit the ball i wont be running and if i dont move i cant be stumped... Easy game.
Ridiculous proposal. (All figures are inaccurate to prove a point.)