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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: ppccopener on February 24, 2018, 11:12:58 AM
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Well it looks like Stokes is going to play with England saying(shows how much he has been missed) he could play as a batsman only, which is a little unusual but there you go.
So who misses out? Hales tipped by the papers to make way a week after signing just white ball only contract(will the cricket gods look unfavourably on this). :)
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Was literally just going to start a post about the series. :D
We look sooooooo much stronger with Stokes, Ali, Woakes etc.. back. It just balances the side better.
Squads are below for the series -
New Zealand ODI squad (from): Kane Williamson (capt), Martin Guptill, Colin Munro, Ross Taylor, Tom Latham (wk), Henry Nicholls, Colin de Grandhomme, Mitchell Santner, Todd Astle, Tim Southee, Trent Boult, Matt Henry, Ish Sodhi.
England ODI squad (from): Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Sam Billings (wk), Jos Buttler (wk), Tom Curran, Alex Hales, Eoin Morgan (capt), Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.
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Roy
YJB
Root
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Wales
Rashid
Willey
Wood
Simples...
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Roy
YJB
Root
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Wales
Rashid
Willey
Wood
Simples...
Wales???
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Woakes I presume.
Hell of an 11 that, with plunkett waiting in the wings too.
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Woakes, in the autocorrect obsessed world of my smartphone!
Its a superb side - 6 front line bowling options plus Root, batting or hitting all the way down.
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I think they'll fit Plunkett in somewhere, not sure for though
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Roy
YJB
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Wales
Rashid
Willey
Wood
I suspect the same but I reckon Buttler will bat 5 and Stokes 6?
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Roy
YJB
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Wales
Rashid
Willey
Wood
I suspect the same but I reckon Buttler will bat 5 and Stokes 6?
That may even come down to whether the set bat is right of left handed.
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Curran over Willey perhaps?
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Ben Stokes walked out to a big cheer and clapping from the crowd.
Full NB kit adorned, but with the badges taped over.
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This pitch is looking quite slow.
Effortless fifty from root. But anyone who’s tried to tee off has instantly gone.
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Stokes out for 12 on his return
Interesting last few overs. Will be targeting around 300 with Buttler still there
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Target of 286 for New Zealand to chase.
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Woakes, or Wales as he is known by some forum members chipping in again with a couple top order wickets to put some brakes on NZ
There's lovely :)
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Woakes, or Wales as he is known by some forum members chipping in again with a couple top order wickets to put some brakes on NZ
There's lovely :)
England players to score over 1,000 runs and take 100 wickets in ODIs:
Botham
Flintoff
Collingwood
Woakes
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Has Stokes had a wee rethatch while he’s been away, or does his bald spot just not look as bad with a buzz cut?
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Oh dear Ross. Was that needed
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Santner you beauty! Umps did their best to not to call 2 clear no balls
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First time I got a good look at Santner was Somerset v NZ back in 2015 and he batted up the order and looked very decent
(Didn’t bowl much from memory) it’s not surprise he can bat a bit.
The lad that looked great was Wheeler - what happened to him?
As an aside the whole team were awesome blokes and during the rain took a bat off young son and all signed it.
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Great game
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Just saw the side, wonder if Hales is starting to regret that white ball only contract...
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If it's a choice between Hales and Bairstow, then it's a no brainer that Hales should be in the XI. Bairstow filled his boots again the most atrocious Windies side last summer. Hales has been a key player against the better sides.
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If it's a choice between Hales and Bairstow, then it's a no brainer that Hales should be in the XI. Bairstow filled his boots again the most atrocious Windies side last summer. Hales has been a key player against the better sides.
Your right it is a no brainier, but the other way round to you have it. Fast forward to the WC here next year we won't be able to get hales and bairstow in the same side, and billings probably won't get in either.
Root and stokes are essential players, Jason Roy has shown he is an awesome player on his day.
To be quite honest with you, and I don't expect you to agree(I like your posts you are 'direct and opinionated') Malan should play ahead of Hales, he is a far better one day player.
So yes, no brainier....Bairstow is a different class to the Goon.
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I don't understand what Hales has done wrong TBH. He lost his place due to injury iirc? And he averaged over 50 in 2016. So he was at the peak of his powers. Whether he's a plonker or not, I think we win a lot more matches with Hales in the side.
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Yeah...get that. If you base selection on the fact to win the World Cup, we are going to be playing the best of the best and it's going to be hard, that's a given...I don't believe pitches are going to be in our favour so no home conditions.the ICC pitch doctors will be over here making sure the visiting teams will not be disadvantaged, the very best batsmen need to play for us, the best temperament, the best technique, etc.
So a test class batsmen is what we want.in my view of course.
Up top we need real class, yes it's a hitters game with power players like butler and Morgan, but we also need class.
I still have the slightly old fashioned view at the top of the order you need at least one of the two capable of defending high class bowling
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I don't understand what Hales has done wrong TBH. He lost his place due to injury iirc? And he averaged over 50 in 2016. So he was at the peak of his powers. Whether he's a plonker or not, I think we win a lot more matches with Hales in the side.
Hales was unlucky, in that Roy replaced him when he was injured and did enough as to make himself undroppable. So Hales ends up being the guy who misses out when the inevitable problems of how to fit seven into six comes around. Is he being unfairly treated in that? No, he isn't. Would he do a good job if he came in? Probably.
There is perhaps an argument that it is Morgan's captaincy that is keeping him out. As a pure batting line up, Roy, Hales, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler probably has the edge.
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So i will throw this out there....
If Bairstow is going to play, he should be keeping wicket.
He is a better keeper than Butler... I actually think Butler's technique is now getting worse (I am a keeper) as seen in today's game when he snatched at a catch and stumping.
Plus add to that the flip side that I think Butler is a better outfielder than Bairstow! Because I am not for 1 second suggesting Butler should be dropped.
Long term Butler will also become Captain.
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So i will throw this out there....
If Bairstow is going to play, he should be keeping wicket.
He is a better keeper than Butler... I actually think Butler's technique is now getting worse (I am a keeper) as seen in today's game when he snatched at a catch and stumping.
Plus add to that the flip side that I think Butler is a better outfielder than Bairstow! Because I am not for 1 second suggesting Butler should be dropped.
Long term Butler will also become Captain.
Interesting thoughts. I do wonder if this is now the case - it wasn't a year ago, but Bairstow's keeping has improved and his catching in the outfield dropped off, just as Jos has made the same journey in reverse.
It does open up another possibility, which is that Buttler replaces Morgan now and Morgan is forced to get in the team on form. You could then have both YJB and Hales.
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Kane Williamson doubt for the 2nd ODI. It will interesting to see if Wood has recovered and whether Hales can get back into the team.
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Wood bowling in practice, but likely to be left out. Hales has no chance, I'd say.
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Wood has the same ankle problems that have dogged him before. He's not fit at the moment.
Hales.....if bairstow has a bad run he could get back up top.....but not from my armchair.
Sacrilege I know but Mooen Ali, is he that good in one day games for us.
I don't want to kill the party but..
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He gives us six bowlers, and has played some destructive innings down the order. I'd say he's pretty safe because we don't need five seamers and Hales wouldn't necessarily score more/quicker at seven.
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Yep think the 6 bowlers and long batting order is key for England, Moeen does a good job in his position. Dawson would probably be the closest competitor?
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Probably so. Modern just has about more with the bat.
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Poor Effort from nz
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A recovery for NZ to reach 223
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Good performance by us thou Woakes , Mo and Rashid
And that's how we should be fielding ! We cannot carry anyone in the field going into the WC
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Stokes timing the ball so well here.
Morgan riding his luck with 2 dropped catches. Nz can’t afford hat defending a small toral
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Time for a post-match celebratory shower
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW70qwTUMAE4n5A.jpg)
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Probably so. Modern just has about more with the bat.
Than Dawson or Hales?
If the former, please can I have whatever it is you're smoking; if the latter, then I agree.
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I didn't know Putin was in New Zealand
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Than Dawson or Hales?
If the former, please can I have whatever it is you're smoking; if the latter, then I agree.
DAmn autocorrect MOEEN
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I know you meant Moeen, but who does he have more with the bat over?
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I know you meant Moeen, but who does he have more with the bat over?
Any other 2nd spinner.
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I know you meant Moeen, but who does he have more with the bat over?
Dawson.
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Ah. The 'just' threw me.
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All out for 234 on tough wicket to bat on. Interested to see how New Zealand approach this.
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Stokes suffered a bit of a nightmare innings, but at least he stuck it out. Root guilty of a poor shot but Morgan played very well. Buttler is a PHENOMENAL player, we're lucky to have him... Disappointing end to the innings. Very poor pitch though!
Think it could be a competitive score, but more likely NZ will cruise it with 15/10 overs left.
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Extremely poor wicket but could be a low scoring thriller
KW should dig in and see it through
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They will do well to win it from here . Williamson is a class act but the the rest cannot pick Rashid and it you can't pick it it's very hard to hit
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Spinners bowling really well together.
Another one of those catches! The ICC really have to look at this.
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Santner should’ve been sent in before de GH
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Santner should’ve been sent in before de GH
Definitely looks in great nick (trys to put curse on him) :D
This is going to be tight - the low scoring games are often the good ones.
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Chris Woakes is pretty good, yeah?
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Something about a low scoring game...beats 350 plays 350
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Great finish
Well bowled Curran and woakes
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Extremely poor wicket but could be a low scoring thriller
KW should dig in and see it through
He dug in and it still wasn’t enough. Great knock from kane
But good death bowling from England
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What a game
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Great 49th from Curran for a young lad that was solid bowling
But once again Chris Woakes held his nerve and put it full outside off.
If only he played for Worcestershire not Warwickshire he would be a decent cricketer
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Woakes is becoming quite the death bowler. I really think playing in the IPL and doing that job for KKR last year has done him the world of good.
And the more Curran bowls at the end the more experience he gets of different situations.
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That Bairstow six was massive!
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This is YJB's highest ODI score since his 141* at the Ageas Bowl in September
While his average looks healthy he hasn't been prolific since becoming a regular, has he...
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He's been decent but has got out when set a few times. I'm less worried by that because it's not a James Vince identikit dismissals type scenario.
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He's made that ton look so so easy
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Hales will have a bit of a wait to get a look-in again!!
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Does anyone think this match is setup perfectly for Morgs, Buttler, Stokes, Ali & Co!
40 ball ton for Buttler maybe?
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This could be a silly number...
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Beating 444-3 would be nice
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Blimey! I don't have Sky so am listening on 5-Live! Sounds painful.
Plus they need to find overs from lesser bowlers too! And the real fire-power batsmen haven't even come out to bat yet.
Oooh, a wicket!
Who is coming in next?
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Buttler. Striking at zero.
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Wow...
England showing they're still kings of the collapse
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Such a disappointing collapse, too. Poor shots and a lack of patience/discipline from Buttler, Stokes, Morgan, Woakes and Ali undoing the excellent work of Roy, Root and Bairstow.
Buttler and Stokes didn't give themselves a chance!
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Thank god for Tom Curran. Possibly vital runs at the death.
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We do love a collapse don't we.
We had a good start by getting ridding of the openers but the collapse has cost us the match. Fair play to Taylor though what an innings he's produced.
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Epic innings from Ross Taylor.
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One of the greatest ODI innings ever in a chase
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As someone who isn't usually a massive fan of ODIs, it has to be said that it's been a cracking series. Genuinely looking forward to the last game.
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Some knock from Ross. A few years back I thought he was over the hill but looks like that eye surgery has helped him
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As has been said already,what a knock from Ross.Wood looked bang average from what I saw...
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Epic innings from Ross Taylor.
One of the most underrated players in world cricket.
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Is it just me or is Southee vastly overrated? Whenever I see him he gets carted. His attitude is up there with Warner...no more than a buffet bowler
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One of the most underrated players in world cricket.
I've always rated him. Saw him at Lord's a few years ago when the Kiwis were touring and he made a stoic 50 which was a little overshadowed by Williamson's 100. He just looked so solid, glad to see he's still making headlines!
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Is it just me or is Southee vastly overrated? Whenever I see him he gets carted. His attitude is up there with Warner...no more than a buffet bowler
Hasn’t improved from his debut against England in 2008/2009. Had potential with the bat too
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Hasn’t improved from his debut against England in 2008/2009. Had potential with the bat too
Yeh OK then
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/content/story/835003.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/content/story/835003.html)
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Yeh OK then
[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/content/story/835003.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/content/story/835003.html[/url])
Post the 2015 World cup, Southee's taken 45 wickets @ 42. So quite frankly he's been hot trash
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Bet Chahal and Kuldeep are better seam options
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Post the 2015 World cup, Southee's taken 45 wickets @ 42. So quite frankly he's been hot trash
He's lost the yard of pace that made him more threatening.
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Hasn't he had loads if injury problems too? Much like Mark Wood?
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Hasn't he had loads if injury problems too? Much like Mark Wood?
Wood is still rapid though.
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He wasn't ever someone I'd class as been rapid anyway, when conditions suit he's fairly handy with the moving ball though. Jimmy isn't rapid but it seems to work well for him when it's swinging, he's a level above Southee though
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Tim Southee is one of the best all rounders in the world, just ask Tim Southee...
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He wasn't ever someone I'd class as been rapid anyway, when conditions suit he's fairly handy with the moving ball though. Jimmy isn't rapid but it seems to work well for him when it's swinging, he's a level above Southee though
Wood is very swift, Southee would likely seem quick to someone like me, but probably never has been to top (read proper) batsmen. Southee is a good all-round cricketer, decent lower order bat, decent opening or first change quick with good variety and control. I mean he's got a couple of hundred test wickets to his name, that's not bad going. He's definitely lost a bit of bite, but he's capable of turning it on still.
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Can see him going the way of Chris Jordan and just bowling short spells in limited overs cricket. Sounds like he'll be much more effective there anyway.
On a side note - did anyone see that video of a reporter doing a pitchside piece to camera whilst they were training in the background and Southee absolutely creamed one into her? I'm sure that was Southee, he came over and apologised.
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He wasn't ever someone I'd class as been rapid anyway, when conditions suit he's fairly handy with the moving ball though. Jimmy isn't rapid but it seems to work well for him when it's swinging, he's a level above Southee though
Southee used to be mid 80s - the other day he was bowling mid 70s.
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Wow was he really that slow, I didn't watch it enough to notice. His slower ball is a pretty poorly disguised effort too
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He was around 123-127k most of the time, so 75-80.
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Maybe he'll end up being a slow bowler by choice, not by deterioration.
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Andddd we're having a bowl. Roy out and Hales in. Taylor also out for NZ.
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Lets see if Hales can make it count. He's had a poor winter so far.
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looks like a batting paradise...tipping munro to get a quick fire 50
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Lets see if Hales can make it count. He's had a poor winter so far.
Just read an interview with Bayliss saying he may regret his white ball decision as he simply won't hit enough balls in match play.
Sounds like they tried to talk him out of it.
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looks like a batting paradise...tipping munro to get a quick fire 50
Epic jinx that!
Out second ball :D :D
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Chris Woakes isn't bad eh
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Munro's technique is rather dreadful. Nothing more than a leg side Larry
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Munro's technique is rather dreadful. Nothing more than a leg side Larry
That’s kind of white ball for you... can’t expect anything else
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Munro's technique is rather dreadful. Nothing more than a leg side Larry
You say this like it’s a bad thing!
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Big game for Wood and Hales this.
I remain unconvinced by Wood, he doesn’t seem to take the bursts of wickets that you would think his pace warrants. He doesn’t seem to be the ‘shock’ bowler people expect.
Personally I’d try to find a place for Hales. I hope he gets a violent score today!
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That’s kind of white ball for you... can’t expect anything else
Almost as predictable as you moaning!
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Almost as predictable as you moaning!
Was it moaning ?? Or was it stating that it’s no surprise that he has a lacking technique but it’s effective in this format.
Meh, couldn’t overly care less what you think
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Was it moaning ?? Or was it stating that it’s no surprise that he has a lacking technique but it’s effective in this format.
Meh, couldn’t overly care less what you think
He has a technique that allows him to open the batting for his country!
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He has a technique that allows him to open the batting for his country!
And it’s effective in this format. Still trying to find the moan but hey ho
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Excellent first 9 overs from England. Given us nothing. 2 rpo!
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The Kane train has been derailed. What a powerplay!
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Big game for Wood and Hales this.
I remain unconvinced by Wood, he doesn’t seem to take the bursts of wickets that you would think his pace warrants. He doesn’t seem to be the ‘shock’ bowler people expect.
Personally I’d try to find a place for Hales. I hope he gets a violent score today!
Not sure that Woods is that pacy anymore, seems to be just around 140
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What do I know?
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Choking again in a pressure game - not for the first time!
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And it’s effective in this format. Still trying to find the moan but hey ho
Not sure Munro is even that effective in this format tbf, 50 overs is long enough to require at least some finesse!
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Still need to get rid of Guptill as he’s capable of going big still.
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This Woakes guy seems useful
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Pretty average really....
(https://s13.postimg.org/m212mc93r/416555_F3-8_B2_A-4092-_BDB9-81_B1_F000_EF87.png) (https://postimg.org/image/bf79gx0yb/)
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Not good enough for England. Ah.
This is some brainless batting from NZ
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Looks like Hales bat is half heart wood.
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Pretty average really....
(https://s13.postimg.org/m212mc93r/416555_F3-8_B2_A-4092-_BDB9-81_B1_F000_EF87.png) (https://postimg.org/image/bf79gx0yb/)
I agree, 10.2 is a pretty average.
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I need to see how being Player of the Series can be spun into proof of his ineptitude.
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Yes good work from Woakes he looks fully fit and in rhythm it's been a good series to watch against a very good team
NZ a bit unlucky Taylor was missing
Bairstow has been brilliant he is perfect at the top for us
And hales getting a score after missing some games was very good- he would of been under pressure
Hard fought competitive series played in good spirit :)
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Chris Woakes isn't bad eh
Woakes' opening spells this series have been...
5-0-14-2, 5-1-18-2, 5-1-13-1, 5-2-14-1 and 6-1-13-1
Shows he needed a load more overs before the ashes series and wasn't fit.
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A comfortable victory. Good see Hales spent time in the middle and scored some runs. As a bowling unit we just seem more comfortable fielding first rather than looking to defend a total.
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Will Hales keep his spot though when Roy is fit?Tough to decide between the two but I'd probably go with Roy? I think Roy wants it more...
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Woakes' opening spells this series have been...
5-0-14-2, 5-1-18-2, 5-1-13-1, 5-2-14-1 and 6-1-13-1
Shows he needed a load more overs before the ashes series and wasn't fit.
Even in ODIs
Still not the stuff of a world beater
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Will Hales keep his spot though when Roy is fit?Tough to decide between the two but I'd probably go with Roy? I think Roy wants it more...
It is a tough call, Roy for me all day long but Hales does have a decent record. He may have to fill in if someone is injured in the current team now Stokes is back.
In fairness to the Goon, if you were picking on runs and form, Hales would indeed be in the side instead of Morgan.but we won't and shouldn't drop the Captain.
after the World Cup Butler may take over as skipper....
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Bloody hell, Bairstow
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Even in ODIs
Still not the stuff of a world beater
The modern game is dominated by the bat thou, nothing is in the bowlers favour.
Those figures over the series are nothing short of outstanding.
And he has helped us win the series. Which is what it's all about.
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Anyone still wanna argue Young Jonny isn't in our strongest side?
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Even in ODIs
Still not the stuff of a world beater
Some people.
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Nice video on twitter of Moeen Ali giving loads of kit away to locals out of a plastic bag!
Looks like we missed out :(
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Seems Moeen may be getting a new sponsor then?
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https://twitter.com/englandcricket/status/972502427835555840
Just looks like he's getting rid of his ODI kit at the end of the tour to me, but I could be wrong!
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Anyone know why Crane has only bowler one over here when Ali has sent down a heap. Even Malian and Lovingston have bowled more.
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Anyone know why Crane has only bowler one over here when Ali has sent down a heap. Even Malian and Lovingston have bowled more.
Beat me to it
Not the first time it's happened either, anyone else get the feeling they are wasting his time
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I'm not sure about the test XI moving forward, but I don't think England like change or dropping people.
I am worried about Broad's wicket-taking ability currently, it does seem to be drying up.
Mo too, seems to have lost his wicket-taking ability: 23 overs at over 4 runs p/o and only one wicket, yet Crane gets a single over? They might not think Crane is ready, but these games are the times to find out.
I fancy us to score runs, but at the moment the bowling attack is looking less and less incisive:
Anderson - Still taking wickets, but not much time left for him
Broad - seems to have blown out and nowhere near as much of a threat
Woakes - Seems to be less effective when it's flat, but time is on his side
Stokes - Something will always happen, will take wickets but only really used in a 5 man attack
Mo - Something seems to have changed and he seems much less potent. If the seamers are struggling, you need a proper wicket taking spinner. we don't exactly need the extra all-rounder.
Don't get me wrong - change would mean throwing a lot of inexperience in, but what's the point of playing the experienced if they are not taking wickets. There are people waiting in the wings -
Roland-Jones
Wood
Overton
Curran
Helm ?
Leach
Parkinson
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Difficult isn't it? One suspects Woakes would take more wickets with the new ball, but that means dropping Super Stewie.
Of the reserve options, TRJ would be my pick. Wood lacks fitness, Helm experience and Curran may already have done his red ball career.
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Anyone else going to the tests? Leaving for Auckland on Friday
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Overton bothers me. Some people say he lacks pace, but he gets a lot of bounce and hence offers something different - ergo I'd give him a bit of a run to see what he can do. early signs were promising and as I say, he offers something different, which we really need. However, he seems injury-prone!
I would've lined up in New Zealand as follows, using it as a bit of a development phase:
Cook
Stoneman
Jennings
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Woakes
Overton
Crane
Anderson
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Tough break for Kiwi all rounder Mitchell Santner, out for 9 months with a knee injury.
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If he can take wickets bowling seam up at Taunton then he's doing okay, same goes for scoring runs at Durham in April, taking wickets with spin north of Watford at any time of year and probably a few more I've not thought of.
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Overton bowls a much heavier 82mph than Curran does, so is probably more worthy of long term investment (as a test bowler - I think Curran has much greater potential in he shorter forms of the game). Along the experimental lines, my preferred line up for the two tests would have been:
Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Stokes
Bairstow
Livingstone
Woakes
Roland-Jones
Anderson
Plus one of Foakes, Overton or Crane depending on conditions.
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Why are people not picking Broad? Are 400 test wickets not enough?
The team for the first test will be
Cook
Stoneman
Vince (not my pick, will be interesting to see if Malan gets a go at 3 in the warm up games)
Root
Malan (I would have him at 3 and bairstow at 5
Stokes
Bairstow (I would have Livingston at 7 for now)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
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Why are people not picking Broad? Are 400 test wickets not enough?
The team for the first test will be
Cook
Stoneman
Vince (not my pick, will be interesting to see if Malan gets a go at 3 in the warm up games)
Root
Malan (I would have him at 3 and bairstow at 5
Stokes
Bairstow (I would have Livingston at 7 for now)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Because he's not been very threatening for a while now, the aim is to win Tests, not trade on past glories.
I'm worried that this attack won't take 20 wickets in a test.
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Why are people not picking Broad? Are 400 test wickets not enough?
The team for the first test will be
Cook
Stoneman
Vince (not my pick, will be interesting to see if Malan gets a go at 3 in the warm up games)
Root
Malan (I would have him at 3 and bairstow at 5
Stokes
Bairstow (I would have Livingston at 7 for now)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Think you're probably right, if Stokes doesn't make it with his back trouble, I would move everyone up and play either Wood or Overton. Vince gets another chance for me, great batsman when on song, just needs to leave everything outside off until he's well in.
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Why are people not picking Broad? Are 400 test wickets not enough?
The team for the first test will be
Cook
Stoneman
Vince (not my pick, will be interesting to see if Malan gets a go at 3 in the warm up games)
Root
Malan (I would have him at 3 and bairstow at 5
Stokes
Bairstow (I would have Livingston at 7 for now)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
I think Buzz has it right with the above..... unfortunately Vince will get another go (and i will put money on he nicks off to 1st slip :() so the only real change will be Stokes coming in.
I would also love to see Malan at 3, Bairstow at 5 and Livingstone given a go at 7.
Side note - does a separate Red Ball thread need starting?
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Anyone know why Crane has only bowler one over here when Ali has sent down a heap. Even Malian and Lovingston have bowled more.
Crane's winter would have been far better spent touring with the Lion's and getting through as many overs as possible
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thing is, when he played for the Lions he didn't really bowl either - on turning decks.
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Cricinfo saying he had a back spasm, possibly why he only bowled the one over.
Can't imagine any other reason he would only bowl 1 over.
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Side note - does a separate Red Ball thread need starting?
If you start it, they will come.
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If you start it, they will come.
Done
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Crane should have spent another winter playing club/first class cricket in Aus. Working with McGill or Oh Shane.
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Wasn't he playing for Western Aus last year?