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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: mohawks94 on June 06, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
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Having been dropped for last week due to some issues with the ball not spinning/not being given a full chance with bat or ball, I spent some time in the nets with a camera to work on technique.
I sent footage to my @edynamo who I have been working with on my leg spin for a couple of seasons, and Ross felt it was a lack of power/energy going into my delivery. I have worked to quicken my run up and power into my action the last couple of weeks, and the results are in the video below:
https://youtu.be/oIsq8zOiXJM
There are about 30 balls from behind me, 20 from the side and 20 from slightly in front in sets of 4 balls, each lasting approx 1 minute (hence long video and breakdown here).
I am hoping to get some clips in the nets batting as well in the near future.
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Looks good mate. Especially when you give it some air.
Would you say you were quite flat through the air as your stock delivery? might just be the camera angle.
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I think it's partly camera angle, partly focus on power in my delivery stride rather than flight, but as im a pretty quick leg spinner it is a bit deceptive. Looks flatter than it is, stock ball is pretty quick but flighted.
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Leg spinner with flight pace and bounce batsmans nightmare should be one of the first names on the team sheet.
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You could do worse than to follow the advice from the second best ever.
https://youtu.be/VRalbzmKIEM
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If you get abit more side on, you will generate more spin. Another point to also note, is the faster you bowl thru the air the less spin off the pitch you will tend to generate.
Also work on driving up and over with good rotation, making sure you finish your action off - A high front arm will help to pull you up and over whilst focusing on spinning the ball up....
Good Luck with it all - Leg spinners are Gold for each team
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I did notice when watching back that I wasn't reaching up and out with my lead arm.
I have a slight advantage over other spinners- I have subluxations in a lot of my joints, including my wrists, which means I can get loads of revs on the ball with ease. Drift and bounce have always been my main weapons as a result.
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My only comment is you could use your front arm a bit more, but I am not leg spin expert. If in doubt follow what @Hoover says!
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Other than what's been said above, if you want to get a stronger front foot pivot then getting off the balls of your feet a bit more , and up onto tip toes , would allow you to get a bit more 'up and over' ( it may also allow your back leg knee drive to be a bit more dynamic/more powerfull) . To achieve this i would experiment with shortening my delivery stride ( see what the shorter delivery stride can offer you.....you may find that it can just be another variation up your sleeve- you would then be able to achieve that variation while only concentrating on one thing/difference in action).
You have solid fundamentals and a repeatable action . You look a good bowler .
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Cheers Biggie.
My goal this season is just to prove I can play higher level, and after my season in Aus is to break into minor counties. My clubs overseas thinks I can play that level, thinks I should just email Bucks captain and ask to have a net with the senior county side, which would be a bit cheeky Imo.
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Do what your overseas says.
Definitely ask for a net. There is no harm in it. No one else will do it for you.
Worse case they say thanks smash you around a bit and don't ask you back.
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Cheers Biggie.
My goal this season is just to prove I can play higher level, and after my season in Aus is to break into minor counties. My clubs overseas thinks I can play that level, thinks I should just email Bucks captain and ask to have a net with the senior county side, which would be a bit cheeky Imo.
As @Buzz said , just contact them and ask for a net .....name dropping your overseas player and saying he recommended you contact them couldn't hurt either.
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If you can pick up the phone so much the better. Easier to make personal contact and that will leave a better impression (true for pretty much all walks of life).
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So had a net with old club tonight on a very green pitch. Bowled well (no footage) and filmed my batting. Wasn't great, tbh, got cleaned up twice early on. Lack of pace was an issue, but also tried to hit everything too hard to make up for it. Clip will be up later once I've got it sorted.
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https://youtu.be/9KvhonghL9s
First 3 mins is the clubs opening bat.
Having watched back, my bat wasn't coming down straight at the start which certainly contributed to the second time I got cleaned up. First one I just didn't move my feet and adjust to it keeping low.
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You're brave to put on the batting footage
The guys were really bit pumped after they bowled you sadly .
Shame you don't have footage of bowling to them
I believe you were not playing forward to both full length deliveries ...
Where do you normally bat ...
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I admit it wasn't my finest batting effort ever, was definitely leaning towards trying to hit out rather than control the ball. I've always had a batting style based on bat speed, hence high hands.
I set my stance open, and close it up when I trigger to get my feet moving as I used to keep getting caught because my feet stayed still so I was playing away from my body. Exception is if im facing left arm seam over the wicket, where I will be more open and trigger to slightly open.
Little bit of rust showing I think- I went from 5 hours training a week over the winter to none after leaving uni.
@Novak the video is unlisted, so only people who i share the link with can see it 😇 im normally 7/8 but want to move up the order at my new club.
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Where are you based mohawks
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Im based in Bucks but play in Sussex.
I'd give my batting performance about 4.5/5 out of 10 last night. Foot work wasn't great, wasn't getting forward enough.
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I admit it wasn't my finest batting effort ever, was definitely leaning towards trying to hit out rather than control the ball. I've always had a batting style based on bat speed, hence high hands.
I set my stance open, and close it up when I trigger to get my feet moving as I used to keep getting caught because my feet stayed still so I was playing away from my body. Exception is if im facing left arm seam over the wicket, where I will be more open and trigger to slightly open.
Little bit of rust showing I think- I went from 5 hours training a week over the winter to none after leaving uni.
@Novak the video is unlisted, so only people who i share the link with can see it 😇 im normally 7/8 but want to move up the order at my new club.
See, I've always found trigger movements to be the issue. I used to do something similar thinking that it'd help me get my feet moving when in reality it was just sending me off balance massively.
A few of the lads play minor counties for Wiltshire, with one in particular being an exceptional bat. The best advice I've ever been given was when he told me to just stay totally still whilst the bowler runs in - I'd swear by it now. Give it a shot and see how you get on, from what I can see on your video your trigger movement is leaving you in a different position almost every shot so you're putting yourself on the back foot from the get go.
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Had a long hit vs CSG keeper (with sidearm) and his lad earlier. Doing a bit of coaching whilst batting. Tried staying still until id picked the line and length. Found myself staying tall but then bending my legs a bit more as the ball was being released so I could spring. Was hitting the ball with more power than yesterday, more control than yesterday. I filmed it from side on this time, partly because of safeguarding, and because I did a bit of coaching as we went I will edit the chatting out of the video.
The only change I made was, because the youngster was bowling left arm over, was batting on middle and off rather than middle and leg to him, middle and leg to the sidearm. Felt good to be honest, and well balanced.
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What was the thinking behind moving more across your stumps to the left arm over??
Unless your ridiculous good off your legs, it just seems your adding a bigger chance of lbw in.
I’m an extremely attacking batsman, so tend to try get my legs out of way. But I move from leg to right arm overs, to half a stump outside leg and open my stance to left arm over, as v to point is where I score and am poornoff my legs.
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I've been doing that to left arm seam for a couple of years. My strength is hitting between mid wicket and extra cover, so by being further across I am more easily in position to punch the ball straight or to go through extra cover without playing so far from my body. Also means that I am in position to just open up a touch more to cut and pull.
I am strong off my legs, but my logic is that I am taking bowled out of the equation as a dismissal and will have more control playing through the covers as I am playing closer to my body.
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I agree @mohawks94 , lbw isn't a big dismissal facing left arm over unless they swing it in a lot as it's usually pitching outside leg, so if strong off your pads (also my preferred shot) then moving over can make a lot of sense 👍
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I've used the old trick of smashing the space bar whilst watching tonights hit back. I am playing the ball under my eyes a lot better, committing forward more and getting the bat down straighter. Main PC with editing software decided to do updates, so will get a short clip up tomorrow.