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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: ppccopener on August 08, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
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has announced he want to play test cricket again
split opinion on this forum like Brexit when discussed previously
one of the most gifted players ive seen in an England shirt, the question is, is he now too old?
players from other Countries play on well into their mid 30's, why not for us?
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Not for me.
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think its time to look to the future to younger players. I highly doubt the selectors are even thinking about recalling him no matter how many runs he gets
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Smith going for Curran and Pope alone probably puts Bell getting picked to one side. It’s clear Smith is looking well into the future and building a side for years to come, Bell would be an extremely short term fix.
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Bell stopped playing international cricket far too soon and at a time when England desperately needed his experience and quality. If he had KP has continued to be selected the transition to younger guys like Pope would have far easier than the situation they now encounter with the top order a complete shambles. I would love to see him back batting at 3 for a couple of years to allow the younger guys space to develop but I can't see it barring a number of injuries
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If one of Cook/Root/bairstow or Buttler got injured Bell has a chance. England need experienced internationals to balance the team.
Worth noting also that Bell always has a great publicist.
He is also in wonderful form.
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Should never have moved him from five or six where he had the best record by far. Never understood the english obsession with moving players from their most successful positions.
Could only see him returning in a very short term, i.e. rest of a single series, emergency. For what its worth, Chris Rogers and Voges did great short term jobs for Australia. Age is just a number.
We didn't pick Ramps for the 2006/7 ashes and he was averaging a hundred. Can't see Bell getting back in now...
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hes so talented but knowone ever mentions him in conversations for selection. But then again who would have thought 2 weeks ago Rashid would be playing against India so you never know
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If England are to bring him back do it now he's in the form of his life
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hes so talented but knowone ever mentions him in conversations for selection. But then again who would have thought 2 weeks ago Rashid would be playing against India so you never know
exactly, never saw Rashid's recall coming, or playing a 20 year old in a crucial test batting 4 with about 18 months CC cricket behind him.
we are facing spin thru the winter too....Lankan wickets are going to turn square and windies now appear to be raging bunsens..... you never know with selection I suppose
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Ramprakash did have plenty of chances though, was a big fan and think he was a little unlucky but you could see the pressure weighed heavily on him.
Bell should definitely be back in in my opinion. Like others have said regarding Voges et al, you can't overstate the importance of experience and learned guile in Test cricket.
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The difference between Bell and Ramps is that Bell has proven himself to be a top international batsman over a long period of time whereas Ramps proved over an equally long period of time that he wasn't up to the job at that level. Sky are running an excellent documentary series looking at the mental side of the game and Ramps features heavily in it. Whether or not he wasn't mentally strong enough to succeed at the top level, I think it was universally acknowledged by that stage of his career that he would never crack test cricket
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True enough. There must be some career County pros with high averages and solid technique that could possibly play international cricket late in their careers?
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I'd be in favour.
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Much as I'm desperate for Ollie to do well...
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One of the best batsmen to watch in my opinion even better on the cover drive than James vince, in my view I would add him into a squad if butler continues to disappoint to allow Pope to bat 6, bell to 3 to allow Root back to his favoured No 4 spot, think he would have 2 years of Test cricket left in him
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Never say never
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I've always been a Bell supporter, but he deserved to be dropped when he was. Recalling him now would say more about the lack of viable alternatives than anything else. Nevertheless, I do think it could be consudered as a stop-gap measure.
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Is he one of the top 5/6 batters in England? If so pick. If not leave out
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Would love to see Bell back, if you're good enough you're young enough.
Bring back Colly next!
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I think Bell needs to spend the summer scoring tons of runs. If he came back to the test side,would some of the baggage Bell had accumulated over the years stand in his way? Smith seems to be going for youth- but Adil Rashid,although relatively young as a spinner, was picked l. What I like about Ed Smith is he isn’t afraid to follow his gut instinct- Smith May already have made a decision on the likes of Bell- I for one wouldn’t rule him out just because of his age. Bell looks a fit guy and could carry on for a couple of years and therefore could play a part in some important series.
Personally I like a comeback story so would pick him if he continues to score runs (and the other candidates keep failing)There are still some other candidates out there,like Livingstone for example,who haven’t had an opportunity yet.
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interesting comments Golders from Root yesterday, perhaps offering an olive branch to some of the older players ''the door is not closed to senior players'
maybe just a comment that does not mean too much but you never know
personally , if we are picking 15 for sri lanka and the windies I would have Bell in as one of the best 7 batsmen in the Country, and he plays spin as well as anyone
as far as selection goes, Smith has proved a bit unorthodox so far, who is to say he wont continue that way?
totally get backing younger players in the team, really pleased we are doing that.....but there is a balance and our top order has not been good enough for quite a while now..
most good teams have a balance in the batting of promising talent and experience
we see the Indian top order lacking quality in our conditions, if they had the choice would a more experienced player be picked in this current test series?
may never happen of course but as @Seniorplayer mentioned, Bell has got this form back this year and looks as good as ever to me
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I do think he is genuinely hungry to prove something. Which has got to be a good thing.
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The international calendar, particularly for England players, is a huge slog. I reckon Cook's suffering from burnout now, I suspect Bell had the same.
Players used to take time off, Gooch, Botham, Gower all did, probably prolonged their careers. Who's to say he doesn't still have the ability and that he's refreshed and hungry?
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I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. Look at his record, first class and test- the guy has scored a huge volume of runs over a long period. He has had a fairly long period out of the test side now- he has been through a tough time,has given up the captaincy I believe at Warwickshire, and may be rejuvenated- he shouldn’t be discarded completely. Plus he’s right handed,has the quality to bat 3 which Root would like.
Is Cook on borrowed time? For me the opening situation is still a major worry for me! Burns may get a go soon if for either Jennings or Cook. Could we not have a right handed Slater-Warner dasher up top with Roy? Has he opened in first class for Surrey?Id like him to- I want him in the side.
What do we think of this lineup with no Stoked?Cook
Roy
Bell
Root
Pope
Bairstow
Butler
Woakes
Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson