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Title: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: Boondougal on September 18, 2018, 07:18:14 AM
Ok, its been a long season (and we have a game left) and I'm the first to admit I'm carry a couple of extra grams here and there but this year my knees feel like they have taken a battering. I hurt one in a tumble on the boundary about 6 weeks ago which has made my long barrier look more like a crooked gate but still I'm just ready to stop playing this year and recover.

I'm wondering if anyone has also noticed the impact on their knees this year... I think the amount of hard grounds I have played on this year due to the amazing weather definitely has not helped my knees.. although its definitely contributed to my average.

Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: Biggie Smalls on September 18, 2018, 07:40:15 AM
Yes . Yes . Yes .....look up the old threads on injuries and on knee pads aswell (theres plenty of my whinging there which probably doesn't need repeating here).  :)
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 18, 2018, 08:12:54 AM
From July     my knees were hurting so bad I stopped playing  in spikes as they weren't sinking into the hard grounds it  helped a lot
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: SD on September 18, 2018, 08:33:07 AM
I found that my feet have suffered the most with condition this season. As a batsman who fields in the covers, I spend a lot of my day on the square and with my spikes struggling to dig in to the hard ground, it has put pressure on the parts of my foot that sit directly above each spike. 
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: Northern monkey on September 18, 2018, 01:55:28 PM
I’ve got that plantar thing bad this year, plus I dived on the outfield and banged my knee, so I’ve struggled a bit too
Then again it’s the first time in over 40yrs of playing that I’ve bowled over a 100 overs too
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: Biggie Smalls on September 19, 2018, 02:30:51 PM
I carry my sl22 boosts for when my feet are too sore (need a gp certificate for any non metal spike shoes in my comp). I wear knee pads under my knee brace.
My next purchase will be a TENS massage machine with 8 pads....so i can massage both knees , my back, shoulders etc all at once.....it will be a high priority bit of kit in my bag this season !
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: Biggie Smalls on September 19, 2018, 02:32:13 PM
Oh....and pain away spray. Love that stuff.
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: SLA on September 19, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
I found that my feet have suffered the most with condition this season. As a batsman who fields in the covers, I spend a lot of my day on the square and with my spikes struggling to dig in to the hard ground, it has put pressure on the parts of my foot that sit directly above each spike.

You wear spikes when its dry? huh?

I think I wore my spikes about 3 times this season - twice in May before the heatwave arrived and once in August.
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: edge on September 19, 2018, 03:05:44 PM
You wear spikes when its dry? huh?

I think I wore my spikes about 3 times this season - twice in May before the heatwave arrived and once in August.
Not wearing spikes another of these not owning any kit/playing in shorts type behaviours that 'everyone' does?
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: SD on September 19, 2018, 03:28:46 PM
You wear spikes when its dry? huh?

I think I wore my spikes about 3 times this season - twice in May before the heatwave arrived and once in August.

I tried playing without spikes but the combination of good grass coverage with a hard base on the square made it hard to get proper traction when diving or turning so it had to.be spikes even though they were painful
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: SLA on September 19, 2018, 03:37:21 PM
Not wearing spikes another of these not owning any kit/playing in shorts type behaviours that 'everyone' does?

There are a wide variety of shoes available for cricket, from full spike, half spike, moulded plastic soles (like astroturf boots), to trainers.

Maybe I was wrong, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that full spikes were for wet or greasy conditions, and the plastic soled shoes designed for dry, hard conditions where there is minimal risk of slipping.

Unnecessarily wearing spikes on dry rock-hard ground will knacker your knees and your feet, as SD has discovered.


Talking of not owning kit, in the last Saturday league game of the year (reasonable standard), the oppo number 3 walked out to bat without bat and gloves, and borrowed them off the departing opener. I love to see that. Proper village cricket.



Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: InternalTraining on September 19, 2018, 03:38:00 PM
I have never worn spikes but the spiked cricket "boots" look very uncomfortable. Truth is I have never really seen a cricket shoe ("boot") that looked soft and comfortable. Most look like golf shoes that are good for walking but not for twisting/turning your foot for quick reactionary movements. Luckily, we have other (cross?) sports where shoes with aggressive treads are needed like hiking and trail running. I use trail runners for cricket. They are light, comfortable, and provide great traction.

In the past, I recommended Brooks Cascadia 12 (or older model Cascadia 7) trail runners. They have a very aggressive tread which provides terrific traction in high grass or wet conditions. They are even better in dry conditions. The uppers are soft and pliable which means you can wear them comfortably all day long. They are also very light.

Tradition is killing cricket. All that traditional gear is so stiff and uncomfortable. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: SLA on September 19, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
I have never worn spikes but the spiked cricket "boots" look very uncomfortable. Truth is I have never really seen a cricket shoe ("boot") that looked soft and comfortable. Most look like golf shoes that are good for walking but not for twisting/turning your foot for quick reactionary movements. Luckily, we have other (cross?) sports where shoes with aggressive treads are needed like hiking and trail running. I use trail runners for cricket. They are light, comfortable, and provide great traction.

In the past, I recommended Brooks Cascadia 12 (or older model Cascadia 7) trail runners. They have a very aggressive tread which provides terrific traction in high grass or wet conditions. They are even better in dry conditions. The uppers are soft and pliable which means you can wear them comfortably all day long. They are also very light.

Tradition is killing cricket. All that traditional gear is so stiff and uncomfortable. Sheesh.


Good idea in terms of comfort and effectiveness. However are you able to get them in white? I'll happily play in non-league games in shorts but even I draw the line at non-white footgear.
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 19, 2018, 03:47:06 PM
The only times I don't wear spikes is when we're playing on artificial. Even then if I know I won't be bowling I'll field in spikes.

I wore my non-spiked shoes in one game on grass this season, in the middle of the heat wave, and it felt like I was running through treacle when first setting off (and I'm slow enough at the best of times)
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: edge on September 19, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
There are a wide variety of shoes available for cricket, from full spike, half spike, moulded plastic soles (like astroturf boots), to trainers.

Maybe I was wrong, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that full spikes were for wet or greasy conditions, and the plastic soled shoes designed for dry, hard conditions where there is minimal risk of slipping.

Unnecessarily wearing spikes on dry rock-hard ground will knacker your knees and your feet, as SD has discovered.
I'd never play without spikes on a grass wicket, I'd say upwards of 90% of regular cricketers would be the same? Astro shoes are for (surprise!) astros aren't they. Never had the slightest problem with spikes on hard ground, why would you? Your average professional ground has an absolutely rock hard track and yet you never see any pros playing in trainers either.

@InternalTraining you complain that these 'stiff and uncomfortable' shoes are killing cricket, but you've never actually worn a pair..?
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: InternalTraining on September 19, 2018, 04:23:12 PM

Good idea in terms of comfort and effectiveness. However are you able to get them in white? I'll happily play in non-league games in shorts but even I draw the line at non-white footgear.

No, no whites. We play white-ball cricket and our uniforms are colored. We can wear non-white shoes. I wear these to my games: https://www.rei.com/product/828600/brooks-cascadia-7-trail-running-shoes-mens (https://www.rei.com/product/828600/brooks-cascadia-7-trail-running-shoes-mens)

Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: InternalTraining on September 19, 2018, 04:25:19 PM
@InternalTraining you complain that these 'stiff and uncomfortable' shoes are killing cricket, but you've never actually worn a pair..?

I said tradition, not just 'stiff and uncomfortable' shoes.

But yes, never wore them. Never will. If I could buy 10 pair of these, I would in a heartbeat:

https://www.rei.com/product/828600/brooks-cascadia-7-trail-running-shoes-mens (https://www.rei.com/product/828600/brooks-cascadia-7-trail-running-shoes-mens)

Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: stevat on September 19, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
I guess it's all relative, but I'd say the early part of this summer was the driest I've seen, and whilst you could get away playing in spikes still (I did), you could also get away with playing in trainers or the multi-studded hard ground type shoes as well.  Down to personal choice, never liked batting in trainers after an overseas quick nobbled my big toe with a yorker when I was about 23.
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Post by: ppccopener on September 19, 2018, 06:33:03 PM
Has anyone found a really comfortable pair of spikes still with protection from the toe crushing Yorkers? I seem to struggle each year finding something  that won't kill my feet. This year certainly has been hard being in the field 3 hours in the heat with rock hard grounds....
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: SD on September 19, 2018, 09:22:12 PM
I can't seem to find a batting shoe that offers for protection either.  Rather, it seems with each passing year, the efforts to drive down the weight of the shoe leads to less and less protection from blows to the foot.
Title: Re: Knees... OMG my knees
Post by: six and out on September 20, 2018, 05:24:55 AM
Has anyone found a really comfortable pair of spikes still with protection from the toe crushing Yorkers? I seem to struggle each year finding something  that won't kill my feet. This year certainly has been hard being in the field 3 hours in the heat with rock hard grounds....

In the end I gave up on the protection part and just thought that if the ones on the market aren't going to give me any/much protection then I am going to want to be as light and comfy as possible = spiked trainers. And it was the best decision I ever made.