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Title: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 18, 2018, 01:33:52 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45561380 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45561380)

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Ben Stokes and Alex Hales have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute by the England and Wales Cricket Board following an incident outside a Bristol nightclub.

The independent Cricket Discipline Commission (CDC) hearing will be held on 5 and 7 December.

All-rounder Stokes, 27, denied a charge of affray resulting from the September 2017 incident and was found not guilty in August.

Batsman Hales, 29, was not charged.

The CDC hearing will be held in private by a three-man panel chaired by former Derbyshire cricketer Tim O'Gorman.

It takes place between England's winter tours to Sri Lanka and West Indies.

England will play three Tests, five one-day internationals and a Twenty20 international in Sri Lanka in October and November.

They are then set to tour West Indies from mid-January to early March.

Stokes and limited-overs batsman Hales have been charged with two counts of breaching an ECB directive which states:
"No-one may conduct themself in a manner or do any act or omission at any time which may be prejudicial to the interests of cricket, or which may bring the ECB, the game of cricket or any cricketer or group of cricketers into disrepute."

The Bristol incident, in which Stokes became involved in a street brawl, occurred several hours after England had played a one-day international against the West Indies at the County Ground.

Stokes and Hales, who was present at the incident, were referred to the CDC by ECB director of cricket Andrew Strauss in September 2017.

The hearing was put on hold until the criminal case was over.

Stokes was unavailable for selection for last winter's Ashes tour, where England were beaten 4-0 by Australia.

He missed the second Test against India at Lord's due to the trial but returned for the third, while Hales no longer plays red-ball cricket.

Stokes has played in 46 Tests for England since making his debut in 2013, as well as 70 ODIs and 22 Twenty20 international appearances.

Hales has played 11 Tests, 65 ODIs and 56 T20 internationals.

Speaking on the day the court case ended, Stokes' lawyer Paul Lunt said the Durham player was "keen to get back to cricket being his sole focus".

Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: Neon Cricket on September 18, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
Stokes and limited-overs batsman Hales have been charged with two counts of breaching an ECB directive which states:

"No-one may conduct themself in a manner or do any act or omission at any time which may be prejudicial to the interests of cricket, or which may bring the ECB, the game of cricket or any cricketer or group of cricketers into disrepute."



Fair enough, if it's in their contracts then I don't see an issue with it. Would be surprised if Stokes gets any further punishment than the cricket he has already missed however.
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: ppccopener on September 18, 2018, 01:48:36 PM
yes on the cards this...

the question is thou how the ECB deal with it.

you suspect they wont throw the book at them, Stokes was after all found not guilty.
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: InternalTraining on September 18, 2018, 02:01:03 PM
Stokes and limited-overs batsman Hales have been charged with two counts of breaching an ECB directive which states:

"No-one may conduct themself in a manner or do any act or omission at any time which may be prejudicial to the interests of cricket, or which may bring the ECB, the game of cricket or any cricketer or group of cricketers into disrepute."



This clause is in effect outside of a cricket ground, game, and practice while they are living their daily/normal, bar brawling lives? They are ECB and cricket ambassadors 24/7?
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: ppccopener on September 18, 2018, 02:13:36 PM
This clause is in effect outside of a cricket ground, game, and practice while they are living their daily/normal, bar brawling lives? They are ECB and cricket ambassadors 24/7?

hmmm...I don't think you would put it like that but yes there are and have been clauses in the past about how you conduct yourselves, it's not uncommon in high profile(or low profile jobs)

admittedly a grey area but it's def there.

I think there might be a fine the a support program for Stokes, like educational/behaviour course

whatever people think of him he is a valuable commodity to the ECB
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: ppccopener on September 18, 2018, 03:17:48 PM
just as a comparison boxer Billy Jo Saunders has just been charged with misconduct by the BBBC for posting a video on social media which was 'offensive'

so different sport, same charge, he wasn't in a boxing ring at the time and does not represent England, he just represents himself..self employed if you like.
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: edge on September 18, 2018, 03:27:23 PM
Think it's a pretty hard argument to make that Stokes didn't bring cricket into dispute..!
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: InternalTraining on September 18, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
He made it look totally bad ass.
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: alexevo94 on September 18, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
I Agree with the charge espically with everything that came out in court, but i think both should be fined. Both have missed games and in Stokes case missed a whole ashes
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: billyb on September 18, 2018, 09:52:23 PM
I reckon Hales will get a kicking, after what the trial revealed.
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: golders on September 19, 2018, 06:16:44 AM
I get the feeling that Hales is the new KP of the England set-up. Didn’t hang around to support Stokes in the aftermath of the brawl- didn’t he do some head kicking as well?
The lad is being shunned and ostracised by England- but Stokes is warmly embraced- must be more to it than meets the eye but not sure if it’s fair that Hales is being treated in this way? Wasn’t Hales made unavailable for selection for a while this has in essence served some sort of ban already?
Title: Re: Ben Stokes and Alex Hales charged with bringing game into disrepute
Post by: SAFC2403 on September 20, 2018, 10:52:57 AM
What i find amazing is hales was pictured on video kicking someone in the head and he wasnt brought to trial.

Sure both have already served bans so not sure what this will achieve.