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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: wasted_talent on October 01, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
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Interesting to read today that Pakistan have called up Mohammed Hafeez to the test squad v the Aussies. He last played a test in 2016. Wonder if this is a backward step for them?
Looking at the squad picked, i'd guess they should go with
6 batsmen
saf
4 bowlers
3 spinners and 2 seamers surely the make up for these pitches?
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They'll pick Shadab at 7 I would have thought and push Sarfraz up to 6.
Will be a decent series. Pak should win, but Nathan Lyon is a serious bowler as is Starc. Not sold on Neser & Holland though, and Mitch Marsh will struggle on these pitches in both disciplines, I reckon.
I don't think they'll be the sandpits like in Sri Lanka, more one for finger spinners to fire it into, in the way Ajmal & Rehman used to.
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i'd personally think they should go:
Inam
Azhar
Babar
Haris
Asad
Hafeez
Saf
Shadab
Abbas
Wahab
Yasir
Not sure you need 3 seamers on these wickets, so pack the batting.
Lyon looks a threat for sure, has bowled beautifully in the current game v the A side.
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Yeah, I like the look of that. I think they might play Faheem Ashraf instead of Hafeez, but I guess it depends how the wickets look.
More of a mystery is going to be the Aussie line up!
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Purely based on history, i just dont think 3 seamers is the way to go. The 2-0 series loss to Sri Lanka, should tell Pakistan that.
Yup, the aussies side is a big guessing game. Though they have got good batting time out in the middle in thia warm up game. However, Pakistan didnt pick one specialist spinner.
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When does the series start and please tell me it's on TV in the UK?
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mohammed amir left out of a big series, unthinkable previously
he's not the same player as he was I don't think
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aussies have a great chance to win.. Lyon has improved leaps and bounds and will threaten a relatively inexperienced batting lineup.
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As a Pakistani supporter I think Aussies will do really well
Pakistani bowling line up looks not great and batting often fragile
Safraz may be on last legs unless has big series
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Surely if the ageless Hafeez plays he would open as he has in the past? Move Azhar Ali to 3. Sarfraz form has been pretty poor in recent times so batting 6 wouldn't really be justified
As for Australia, Renshaw got smashed in the head fielding at short leg. Looks like he'll be ok for the Test though. Australian side looks unrecognisable
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Personally I'm really looking forward to this series, a truly testing time for Australia, I think the homeground advantage will probably tip the series for Pakistan, but I don't think Australia will be as bad as everyone thinks, or at least I hope not.
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Team AUS has a lot to prove and they will play their hearts out! I expect a great Test series.
If Finch opens, it'd be interesting to see how he adjusts.
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Who has the UK rights guys ?
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Australia named their XI for the first test, three debutants
Aaron Finch, Usman Khawaja, Shaun Marsh, Mitch Marsh, Travis Head, Marnus Labuschagne, Tim Paine (c), Mitchell Starc, Peter Siddle, Nathan Lyon, Jon Holland.
Looks a dreadful side on paper. Khawaja hapless against spin. Mitchell marsh at 3 thought it was a joke. Head plays all his home matches Adelaide yet only average mid 30s in red ball cricket. Labushchafne? No idea who he is. Siddle ? Thought he was retired.
Shadab Khan ruled out for the hosts with the groin injury sustained in the Asia cup
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Thanks for the team heads up
How do we watch the first test in the UK ?
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Not sure who else they could have picked to be honest, Finch deserves a shot in the white clothes, Mitch Marsh is comfortably the best all-rounder Australia has currently, and Peter Siddle is coming off some incredible form in county cricket and adds a degree of experience and leadership.
I can't help but Head and Labuschagne are gut instinct selections, and why not, a fairly trivial UAE series that will fly under most radars is the perfect time to follow some hunches, both can bowl handy part time spin as well apparently.
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They left out Matthew Renshaw due to 'lack of match time' and according to Paine, Labushchagne had a good a team tour of India, he got a pair in the recently concluded match. Langer just picking players he's pals with
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Thanks for the team heads up
How do we watch the first test in the UK ?
No uk coverage at present
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That is one poor test team..
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No uk coverage at present
It’s on sky.
Star gold, channel 729. That’s a Pakistan channel, not entirely sure if it’s free as haven’t clicked on it via the box.
I know it doesn’t work on sky go though, which is rubbish.
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Pakistan 89/0 at lunch. Australian bowling toothless
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Time to break out the sandpaper to get it reversing
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Pakistan 89/0 at lunch. Australian bowling toothless
U actually complimented pakistan team! Shocking!
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It’s on sky.
Star gold, channel 729. That’s a Pakistan channel, not entirely sure if it’s free as haven’t clicked on it via the box.
I know it doesn’t work on sky go though, which is rubbish.
Works for me and its in HD providing you pay for HD
English commentary too
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Pakistan 255/3 at stumps. After the first two sessions 199/0. Australia fought back in the final session 56/3
Hafeez 126
Imam 76
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Why pick 2 all rounders, if you are not going to get them to bowl some overs. Total of 3 overs out of the 5th bowler, while your main two bowlers have bowled 54 overs. Both Starc and Lyon are going to very tired for the 2nd inning if Marsh and Labuschagne do not bowl more overs.
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Why pick 2 all rounders, if you are not going to get them to bowl some overs. Total of 3 overs out of the 5th bowler, while your main two bowlers have bowled 54 overs. Both Starc and Lyon are going to very tired for the 2nd inning if Marsh and Labuschagne do not bowl more overs.
Starc broke down near the end so he will be properly ran into the ground .. theyd be better off not flogging any of their genuine quicks in the UAE
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Starc had cramp and should be fine according to the reporters in Dubai.
I'm presuming that Australia didn't use their 5th/6th bowlers more as they managed to control the run rate in the final session. They've got the new ball first thing in the morning, when according Rameez Raja it's the coolest time of day.
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Starc broke down near the end so he will be properly ran into the ground .. theyd be better off not flogging any of their genuine quicks in the UAE
Yeah, kind of surprised that he bowled that many overs. I would have expected Mitch Marsh as the VC to say, let me bowl some more. I would have even given Travis Head couple of overs to give the main bowlers a longer breather.
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This is some absolutely dire cricket
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Absolutely awful for test cricket. Add this to the recent India vs Windies test and it's no wonder people think Test cricket is dying.
I certainly wouldn't say the Australians have bowled poorly, skip the formalities and just plug a bowling machine in at one end.
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If the Aussies haven't bowled badly as you say why is it aweful ?
Pkaistan must be batting well then by consequence
The game may be slow but that doesn't mean it's aweful ?
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If the Aussies haven't bowled badly as you say why is it aweful ?
Pkaistan must be batting well then by consequence
The game may be slow but that doesn't mean it's aweful ?
It’s awful for test cricket because the grounds man has prepared an absolute road that’s offering nothing for the bowling side, not even really turning. It’ll get worse through the test and eventually will turn square so the game will be won on the toss of a coin
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Pakistan have batted well, and the Aussies have Bowled very well to restrict them to a score that they most likely won't be able to declare at today. The longer they can keep Pakistan batting to a score that they feel comfortable declaring at the better at this point. Genuinely bad for the state of cricket.
What makes a good test match in my opinion is the presence of a contest, and conditions just haven't allowed that.
Realistically Sarfraz should win man of the match for winning the toss for his side, because ultimately, that is what will influence this match the most.
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Fair comment but subcontinent conditions are often good for batting
How did wasim and waqar feel bowling in them home conditions for 15 years
I do see what you guys are saying ..it gets boring when pitch is dead
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Whilst It's fairly dull cricket, Pakistan are pretty much ensuring that they are the only side that can win this Test. Australia have bowled but Holland has been dreadful hence why Lyon's already bowled some 50 odd overs. In fact Labushchagne looks a better bowler than Holland. No idea how Holland leapfrogged O'Keffe
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Whilst It's fairly dull cricket, Pakistan are pretty much ensuring that they are the only side that can win this Test. Australia have bowled but Holland has been dreadful hence why Lyon's already bowled some 50 odd overs. In fact Labushchagne looks a better bowler than Holland. No idea how Holland leapfrogged O'Keffe
O'Keefe likes spending most of his time down the pub
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would this match be more interesting for the spectators/players/fans...if Australia were awarded the toss?
or would be exactly the same sort of cricket as we have?
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Pakistan did exactly the right thing .
Pakistan v Australia should be played in England or New Zealand for the awesome ups and downs and lots of wickets
It's a fascinating test because now aussies have to bat and see how they like the pressure
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Hindsight is a funny thing but Paine might be regretting Holland's selection and perhaps wish he'd gone with Neser. Also they picked a slogger like Head ahead of Maxwell because Head's bowling is supposedly better, he even get a bowl
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Agar or Doggett should come in for Holland in the 2nd test. Holland is rubbish .
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Pakistan not bowling particularly well, both sides of the wicket. Wahab pace isn't there anymore either. Why did they ditch Hasan Ali? Pitch is still ridiculously flat as shown by Khawaja looking semi decent against spin
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Ball really starting to grip now, and Khawaja throws it away.
Bilal has a very...err.. interesting action..
But as expected the pitch seems to have turned a corner and it's hard to imagine the Aussies seeing out the day.
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Pakistan not bowling particularly well, both sides of the wicket. Wahab pace isn't there anymore either. Why did they ditch Hasan Ali? Pitch is still ridiculously flat as shown by Khawaja looking semi decent against spin
U were saying?
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4 wickets for 11 runs, game changes in a flash.
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I can't imagine that Mitch Starc would be too happy being bowled into the ground then having to come out so soon to have to bat. Those seam bowlers who weren't fit to make the tour have dodged a bullet here
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How good is this guy Abbas. Bowls in high 120s, harmless stature, no extraordinary swing, But so disciplined and deadly. Had a great county season and averaging under 17 now making the aussies dance on this supposed "road track"
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Shows even on a road the best can do something not saying starc is not unbeleivable but just shows
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Pakistan Eventually declared on 181/6, setting Australia a highly unlikely 462 to win or bat out 130 overs. Australia started off well again 87-0 until Abbass bagged Finch 49, S Marsh 0 and M Marsh 0. Abbass comes across as a Mohammed Asif clone (Asif the best Pakistan seam bowler I've seen IMO). Khawaja got another half century and Head showing grit second time around. Yasir Shah seems off colour 0-122 off 43 overs thus far in the match.
How Australia thought someone like Mitchell Marsh is a top order batsman beggars belief, his Test career has been embarrassing aside from flogging a demoralized England side around during the last Ashes series. Marsh has more ducks than 50+ scores
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Pakistan Eventually declared on 181/6, setting Australia a highly unlikely 462 to win or bat out 130 overs. Australia started off well again 87-0 until Abbass bagged Finch 49, S Marsh 0 and M Marsh 0. Abbass comes across as a Mohammed Asif clone (Asif the best Pakistan seam bowler I've seen IMO). Khawaja got another half century and Head showing grit second time around. Yasir Shah seems off colour 0-122 off 43 overs thus far in the match.
How Australia thought someone like Mitchell Marsh is a top order batsman beggars belief, his Test career has been embarrassing aside from flogging a demoralized England side around during the last Ashes series. Marsh has more ducks than 50+ scores
I guess the person who will get dropped after the series is over is Tim Paine and the Marsh brothers will survive ;)
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As soon as a team scores 400 with more than 2 wickets remaining it’s generally a crap test match.. way to many runs
600+... yeah that’s just crap and never produces good cricket
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Surprised to see that the aussies are showing a bit of fight - Unlike their past few tours to asia
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Khawaja gets to first hundred in Asia. Sarfraz captaincy pretty off so far. Takes new ball but not giving it to Abbas
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Aussies showing great fight here.
Not impressed with Saf's captaincy either.
I think his in dire need of a break from cricket.
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30 overs (theoretically) left, 6 an over wins it for the Aussies
Could we see them pull of the most unlikely victory?
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30 overs (theoretically) left, 6 an over wins it for the Aussies
Could we see them pull of the most unlikely victory?
Not a chance.
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Not a chance.
Stop being all realistic, let people dream! ;)
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Was 130-1 on the betfair exchange at tea and is now 30-1, so somebody believes.
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Aussies are SO much easier to root for when Warner isn't in the team.. I hope they pull off a draw
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yasir shah not done anything all game and gets 3 wickets in 8 balls. aussies choking
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Seems a bit brainless that Starc came in before Siddle(granted get got a duck) and Lyon. The latter two are decent blockers whereas Starc is pretty much a slogger.
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Gary to block it home till the end
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Funny to think Mitchell Marsh a supposed 'batsman' has passed fifty just the five times in 49 innings. Whereas Tim Paine has crossed fifty fives times in 24 innings.
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nailbiting finish.. would take this over an ODI slogfest any day
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Sensational rearguard by the Australians
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Lol and ppl were saying it was a dead game a couple of days ago
As a Pakistani supporter well.done the Aussies and played in the right spirit without Warner aggressive disgusting tactics
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Well played, team AUS!!
They are a young team and this draw should bolster their spirit and stature amongst their fellow national cricketers. Very well done!
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Wow. Niiiice Gary !
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What a massive effort from the Aussies.
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About time the Aussies showed some fight on the subcontinent. Massive change from their usual innings defeats.
They really should’ve picked Maxwell over M.Marsh
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great effort from the aussies
quite unreal
not sure about hafeez only bowled 9 overs all game
also think pakistan should have a left arm spinner playing - needed for variation?
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They really should’ve picked Maxwell over M.Marsh
Nah, that is not possible. I think Langer is pushing for Mitch to take over captaincy
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Selecting from afar I think I'd actually have picked Maxwell over any of the top 6 that did take the field, never mind just Marsh! I know nothing at all about Labuschagne mind, but his first class stats are dreadful.
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Sensational rearguard by the Australians
People say draw cricket holds no interest.. if this was an ODI it would have been really really one sided and Aus would have had nothing to pay for
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People say draw cricket holds no interest.. if this was an ODI it would have been really really one sided and Aus would have had nothing to pay for
I always consider a highly contested draw a bit like a boxing match. In this situation Pakistan dominated 70% of this match and on paper they achieved a winning draw. Whereas Australia somewhat dodged a bullet after being on the back foot for nearly all the match. But in a cricketing sense Australia actually got the winning draw in terms of the mental battle whereas Pakistan will be a little gutted with the outcome.
Always place in Test cricket for a good draw
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Paine's keeping has been really good since he returned otherwise he could easily slot in at 4 in place of the hapless Mitchell Marsh. Paine actually looks like a batsman whereas Marsh looks like a tailender
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Agree
I always consider a highly contested draw a bit like a boxing match. In this situation Pakistan dominated 70% of this match and on paper they achieved a winning draw. Whereas Australia somewhat dodged a bullet after being on the back foot for nearly all the match. But in a cricketing sense Australia actually got the winning draw in terms of the mental battle whereas Pakistan will be a little gutted with the outcome.
Always place in Test cricket for a good draw
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Great spirit shown by Australia.
Surprised that Bilal and Abbas didn't try round the wicket in the last 10 overs.
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3 wickets in 4 balls for Garry - turning out to be a great first session for the aussies.
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Make that 4 wickets in 6 balls. Gary on fire here.
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Could've easily been 4 wickets in 10 balls as Labushchagne dropped Zaman off Holland's bowl
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That's the problem with flat track bullies no heart. It's easy slogging Windies and Sri Lanka around
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204-6 at tea. Fakhar 94 LBW Labushchagne. Ending a partnership of 147. Sarfraz 78*. Pitch pretty docile how Pakistan must be regretting those 10 balls of chaos
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Good comeback from Pakistan. Sarfaraz threw it away once again
M.Marsh been given some token bowling so he doesn’t get dropped
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Who would've guessed Labushchamgne was in for his bowling...250 looks decent on his pitch considering the amount of turn Labushchagne is getting
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That was, err, rough
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Labushchagne's drop of Zaman yesterday looks this the series defining moment. After that drop Lyon took those 4 wickets in 6 balls and Zaman/Sarfraz partnership some what buried Australia
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Labushchagne's drop of Zaman yesterday looks this the series defining moment. After that drop Lyon took those 4 wickets in 6 balls and Zaman/Sarfraz partnership some what buried Australia
That and the fact Australia seem to have forgotten to take a middle order with them on tour.
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That and the fact Australia seem to have forgotten to take a middle order with them on tour.
You're always handicapped when you pick one Marsh but if you pick two you've got no hope
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You're always handicapped when you pick one Marsh but if you pick two you've got no hope
Head, Pain and Loose Bus Change haven't exactly been tearing it up either to be fair.
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Head, Pain and Loose Bus Change haven't exactly been tearing it up either to be fair.
Paine made an unbeaten 60 to salvage a draw in the last game and is averaging over 40 in Tests, I think you can let him off to be fair
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I'll give him the match-saving innings, still only averaging 23 for the series though.
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At the end of the day your first class record is a barometer of abilities. Mitch Marsh, Head and Labushchagne average in the 30s. Whilst players with superior records Maxwell, Handscombe and Burns don't get selected. Renshaw carrying drinks is ridiculous
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I'll give him the match-saving innings, still only averaging 23 for the series though.
Isn't he averaging 35.5 (thanks mainly to his red inker)
I haven't looked into it in great detail but I imagine that would put him fairly close to the top of the Australian averages?
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Isn't he averaging 35.5 (thanks mainly to his red inker)
I haven't looked into it in great detail but I imagine that would put him fairly close to the top of the Australian averages?
Indeed he is, too early for me :
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Loose bus change - I know they've lost a couple of players, but how on earth does a first class career average of 33 with a grand total of 4 tons get you picked as a batsman for Australia..?
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Most worrying for the Aussies - they lost 5 wickets to a pace bowler. Their bowlers won't be happy with that!
Pak well on top and doing the right thing attacking
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Most worrying for the Aussies - they lost 5 wickets to a pace bowler. Their bowlers won't be happy with that!
Pak well on top and doing the right thing attacking
mohammad abbas is something special.. still early days, but his stats are unbelievable so far. averages 16 with the ball. has already taken 54 wickets, and this is just his tenth game (with one innings to go)
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Abbas is something special for sure
He will do great for county sides year in year out .
He should be in the one day side too no idea why he's not
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Loose bus change - I know they've lost a couple of players, but how on earth does a first class career average of 33 with a grand total of 4 tons get you picked as a batsman for Australia..?
Umm, what are the avg’s of England’s super world class stars ?!?
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Umm, what are the avg’s of England’s super world class stars ?!?
I didn't mention England?! But since you asked... the only batsman in the current test squad who doesn't have a considerably better first class record than that is Jos Buttler, who has a higher test average and in any case at least got himself into the test side as a batsman by proving his international class in white ball cricket. Given that our batting has been pretty poor lately I think that only backs the question up!
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I didn't mention England?! But since you asked... the only batsman in the current test squad who doesn't have a considerably better first class record than that is Jos Buttler, who has a higher test average and in any case at least got himself into the test side as a batsman by proving his international class in white ball cricket. Given that our batting has been pretty poor lately I think that only backs the question up!
How many are 40+ out of interest ?
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Loose bus change - I know they've lost a couple of players, but how on earth does a first class career average of 33 with a grand total of 4 tons get you picked as a batsman for Australia..?
You have to be considered as future investment ;)
Edit: I am just waiting for the Marsh brothers to score heavily in the 2nd innings, which will get them 4 to 6 more tests and the cycle will start over.
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How many are 40+ out of interest ?
Two! :D
37+ seems to be the top bracket in the county champs these days, drop in quality of batsman or result of playing most of the games at silly times of the season? One for another thread perhaps.
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Umm, what are the avg’s of England’s super world class stars ?!?
Is this not the Aussies vs Pakistan thread? Why has Englands issues got anything to do with it?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbRtW2K3rI
A must watch - village run out!
Up there with Ian bell a few years ago - still can’t believe bell was recalled and allowed to carry on
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What an absolute waste of a wicket. 'Village' or even 'Junior Village' is absolutely right.
Azhar Ali may have a sleepless night after that.
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Still not Sammit Patel though.
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Pure comedy even Rameez can't contain his amusement
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Pakistan should slog another 50-70 runs and stick the Aussies in. Khawaja can't open the batting as he's been off the field.
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Better quality clip
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Lfr08Md0o
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbRtW2K3rI
A must watch - village run out!
Up there with Ian bell a few years ago - still can’t believe bell was recalled and allowed to carry on
This isn't anything like the Bell one?
When it happened to Bell it was the last ball of the session and the batsmen thought the ball had crossed the boundary. This was the third ball of the 9th over of the day, and it clear that the ball hadn't crossed (or got that close to) the boundary.
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Yeah, this is stupidity rather than 'spirit of the game'
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With the bell one, I think even kumar had thought it had gone, he got up from the covers, brushed himself off and then casually tossed it back to dhoni who whipped them off.
Everyone at the ground thought it had gone.
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This isn't anything like the Bell one?
When it happened to Bell it was the last ball of the session and the batsmen thought the ball had crossed the boundary. This was the third ball of the 9th over of the day, and it clear that the ball hadn't crossed (or got that close to) the boundary.
Pretty much the same thing, batsmen error in thinking it had gone to the boundary whilst the ball was still live and subsequently "run out". The only difference being as you pointed it out - it was the last ball of the session. He was still out of his crease and should've been given run out.
I can imagine micky arthur kicking off about Ali, not for the first time he's been involved
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Pretty much the same thing, batsmen error in thinking it had gone to the boundary whilst the ball was still live and subsequently "run out". The only difference being as you pointed it out - it was the last ball of the session. He was still out of his crease and should've been given run out.
I can imagine micky arthur kicking off about Ali, not for the first time he's been involved
Been changed since the Bell run out nut isn't there a rule against decieving the batsman, abiet wilfully which I'm not sure was the issue so much as tiredness/laziness in Kumar's case.
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Big mistake from azhar he deserved to go out
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Been changed since the Bell run out nut isn't there a rule against decieving the batsman, abiet wilfully which I'm not sure was the issue so much as tiredness/laziness in Kumar's case.
5 run penalty for “fake” fielding. Put an end to pointless dives and fake throws
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5 run penalty for “fake” fielding. Put an end to pointless dives and fake throws
Reckon Kumar would have gotten done under the new rules?
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Reckon Kumar would have gotten done under the new rules?
Don’t think laziness/chasing after a ball slowly is considered fake fielding. A lot of old bowlers would’ve got done for it
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That run out is proper village - surely as a batsman you know if its gone for 4 or not?
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Good old Shaun Marsh eh.........
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Pakistan declared 400/9 - Babar 99 and Sarfraz 81
Australia nEed 538 or to survive 188 overs. The hapless Shaun Marsh opened, Khawaja apparently has an ACL injury, out for 3
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Is finch not batting in the danger area? I thought the rules changed preventing batsmen batting too far out of their crease
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The same pitches some call roads, Abbas showing what can be done - really skillful stuff
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I'll give him the match-saving innings, still only averaging 23 for the series though.
Turns out you saw into the future @Kulli
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Turns out you saw into the future @Kulli
Ha, should have had money on it!
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I haven't seen much on telly, so can someone explain in simple terms why the Abbas fella is so good? He's described as Right arm Med Fast - but he;s picking up wickets for fun, what is it he's doing?
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I haven't seen much on telly, so can someone explain in simple terms why the Abbas fella is so good? He's described as Right arm Med Fast - but he;s picking up wickets for fun, what is it he's doing?
Line and length bit of nibble
Proper test match bowling
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I haven't seen much on telly, so can someone explain in simple terms why the Abbas fella is so good? He's described as Right arm Med Fast - but he;s picking up wickets for fun, what is it he's doing?
Good lines, good lengths, dangerous seam movement. U would be surprised how effective u can be if u keep things simple
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You watch Abbas and it's pretty reminiscent of how Philander started off in Test cricket.
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The brothers Marsh really showed their value to Australian cricket
Shaun Marsh 14 runs at 3.50
Mitchell Marsh 30 runs at 7.50
It turns out having 'lineage' doesn't mean you have any talent
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You watch Abbas and it's pretty reminiscent of how Philander started off in Test cricket.
Only thing was, Philander was pants on the sub-continent. Skipped a few tours with "injuries" too
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I haven't seen much on telly, so can someone explain in simple terms why the Abbas fella is so good? He's described as Right arm Med Fast - but he;s picking up wickets for fun, what is it he's doing?
Seam movement little bit away and inswing, pitching on good lenghths, i was watching it live on telly, it reminds me of Asif s spell in England back in 2010 against Australia.
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Abbas is doing the three basic things right.... pitching on right lengths, moving the ball, bowling very accurately
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Abbas hopefully new legend for Pak
Should be in one day side
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I haven't seen much on telly, so can someone explain in simple terms why the Abbas fella is so good? He's described as Right arm Med Fast - but he;s picking up wickets for fun, what is it he's doing?
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25021770/reactions-see-new-no-1-test-bowler-coming-mohammad-abbas (http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25021770/reactions-see-new-no-1-test-bowler-coming-mohammad-abbas)
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[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25021770/reactions-see-new-no-1-test-bowler-coming-mohammad-abbas[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25021770/reactions-see-new-no-1-test-bowler-coming-mohammad-abbas[/url])
A la Pollock, McGrath, Srinath and plenty of others, nibbling the ball around at 82-84mph with very few bad balls tends to do well, especially when people have not faced him before.
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A la Pollock, McGrath, Srinath and plenty of others, nibbling the ball around at 82-84mph with very few bad balls tends to do well, especially when people have not faced him before.
It’ll do even better in the modern era assuming it’s not on roads as the batsmen don’t have the mentality or techniques to survive
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A la Pollock, McGrath, Srinath and plenty of others, nibbling the ball around at 82-84mph with very few bad balls tends to do well, especially when people have not faced him before.
Worth saying the speed is much less important than the accuracy and movement - plenty of top quality test seamers over the years who weren't all that quick, but not many who were erratic or didn't do much with the ball. Abbas is a near constant threat to the off stump, always accurate and always moving the ball just enough.
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The amount of comments from class batsman. And bowlers on that link saying Abbas is a Greta bowler surprised me
Steyn Collingwood amongst others
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I haven't seen much on telly, so can someone explain in simple terms why the Abbas fella is so good? He's described as Right arm Med Fast - but he;s picking up wickets for fun, what is it he's doing?
Cat did you not see the Lords test in May when Abbas got 8 for...
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18025/scorecard/1119535/england-vs-pakistan-1st-test-pak-in-ire-eng-scot-2018 (http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18025/scorecard/1119535/england-vs-pakistan-1st-test-pak-in-ire-eng-scot-2018)
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I was there!!!
(But of course, I was very, very drunk)
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What’s been remarkable is the nip and seam he’s getting on these so called roads in the UAE
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I'd back myself to score more runs than the Marsh Brothers have in the series combined
Surely they need to go
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I'd back myself to score more runs than the Marsh Brothers have in the series combined
Surely they need to go
Tough when they’ve just named Mitchell vice captain
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Tough when they’ve just named Mitchell vice captain
Yeh I read that, can't believe they made that decision. Friends in high places
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The vc decision was made by a vote from the team
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The vc decision was made by a vote from the team
Winston Churchill may need to revise his opinion that democracy is the least worse system of government. First Brexit now this
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This is the worst Australian team I’ve seen and I’m sure others agree.
Starc nothing without the sandpaper.
Batting looks woeful - even worse with khawaja injured now
Embarassing recall of Siddle - surely aussies have other young quicks. Better hope Cummings and hazlewood are fit for the summer.
The marsh brothers really aren’t the saviours of Aussie cricket despite their ashes heroics
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This is the worst Australian team I’ve seen and I’m sure others agree.
Starc nothing without the sandpaper.
Batting looks woeful - even worse with khawaja injured now
Embarassing recall of Siddle - surely aussies have other young quicks. Better hope Cummings and hazlewood are fit for the summer.
The marsh brothers really aren’t the saviours of Aussie cricket despite their ashes heroics
The home series vs India is going to be very interesting indeed. The India pace attack is very decent now with Yadav, Shami and Bumrah etc... it is one thing losing away on the sub continent but if they get turned over at home... hmmmmm
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The thing I really don't get is why the Australians are shooting themselves in the foot quite so hard with selection. They'd probably have lost to Pakistan anyway, but surely their top 6 would look a lot better with Renshaw, Burns and Maxwell in place of the Marshes and Labuschagne. Keep Shaun Marsh at 5 if you want but sticking Mitchell in at 4 in a test series is criminal selection. Siddle's an honest bowler but there must have been a better option available for a subcontinent tour? Aussie members, tell me I'm wrong.
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The thing I really don't get is why the Australians are shooting themselves in the foot quite so hard with selection. They'd probably have lost to Pakistan anyway, but surely their top 6 would look a lot better with Renshaw, Burns and Maxwell in place of the Marshes and Labuschagne. Keep Shaun Marsh at 5 if you want but sticking Mitchell in at 4 in a test series is criminal selection. Siddle's an honest bowler but there must have been a better option available for a subcontinent tour? Aussie members, tell me I'm wrong.
Whoever is selected you/we can level stuff at. Moeen vs leech, Compton being dropped.. name as many as you want
Fact is, Maxwell isn’t a red ball player and siddle is at least supposed to be accurate unlike quicks (plus they are all broken). Renshaw, well something has happened behind the scenes... burns hasn’t really shown much but like most, becomes a better player out of the team.
Maybe Aus like eng just don’t have the talent pool for red ball (quality wise).
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Is Callum Ferguson not going to be considered. He had a good county season and he’s solid.
Was the next big thing in Aussie cricket before he was his injuries
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Not sure where this notion that Maxwell isn't a red ball player. He averages over 40 in red ball cricket. More than M Marsh, Finch, Paine, Labushchagne, Head and Renshaw. Only ones with a better fc record are Smith, Warner and Khawaja so therefore Maxwell is fourth best batsman in Australia. Unless stats for selection are distorted whereby Maxwell needs to win a noble peace prize to get selected. Maxwell scored a brilliant hundred for Yorkshire on raging green top and he's actually got a test hundred in Asia.
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Maxwell is a really good player, I think he ran over a selectors sheep in a previous life - big, big CA mistake!!!
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As an england fan Renshaw, Maxwell and co can most definitely stay out of favour until this time next year. If a top order anything like the current one turns up next summer no bookie will even give you odds on an Oz win.
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Maxwell’s the second best Aussie player of spin. He’s got runs on the sub continent and shown he’s got the temperament.
Now I don’t know how relevant the allegations in the spot fixing video are, but even mark W thought he should’ve been picked
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What a match T20 second match