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Title: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SD on November 30, 2018, 05:30:29 PM
I can see a few old posts discussing the various amounts clubs charge in subscriptions and match fees across the year but they are a bit out of date now.

We are shortly putting together a recommendation to the members to be voted on at the AGM for the 2019 fees and it would be interesting to know what other clubs are now charging
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Neon Cricket on November 30, 2018, 05:35:50 PM
£18 per month by D/D. Works out at £216 a year all in (all league match fees & membership)
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: velvetsky01 on November 30, 2018, 05:45:55 PM
Previous clubs fees last year were £8 per match and £60 membership
New club is £5 per match and £50 for the year
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: LateBloomer on November 30, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
£35 membership which includes playing shirt
£10 home game
£7 away game - driving to the longest few away games with 2 or more passengers gets you a free game.
Also starting an incentive scheme this year for those  volunteering their time details yet to be confirmed. Wasn't my idea but hopefully it works to get more people involved off the field
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Gurujames on November 30, 2018, 06:11:22 PM
£50 a year + £7 a game. That includes league umpires and the best teas in the league.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: t2ylo on November 30, 2018, 06:19:43 PM
£50 a year + £7 a game. That includes league umpires and the best teas in the league.

Same (better teas  ;) ) or £15 a month all year which includes membership & winter nets.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: NT50 on November 30, 2018, 06:34:22 PM
£25 Membership per year and £5 per game
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: KW9221 on November 30, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
We pay $200 fee for the season plus $5 each game.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: JB on November 30, 2018, 07:49:55 PM
Ours is pennies, £20 or £30 a season. A few quid a game and couple of quid for each winter nets session. I’d happily pay far more as the whole family comes down and is made very welcome. Proper close family club and I appreciate that and the fact that it’s on my doorstep. You always get people at the club that twist about rising fees though!



Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: six and out on November 30, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
We are £80 a year and £8 a game (plus on average £2 in fines  :D)

New members get a playing shirt and cap included in the £80.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Calzehbhoy on November 30, 2018, 08:56:58 PM
Either £70 and £15 per game on a sat £10 per game on a Sunday or £250 with no match fees to pay at all.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: blindowl on November 30, 2018, 09:28:02 PM
£35 membership + £10/game on sat and £5/game midweek.  (less for kids/unemployed/students)

Not a lot for a days entertainment really although would be nice if some teams spent the tea money on the teas. I would be embarrassed by some of the shocking offerings.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SD on November 30, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
£35 membership which includes playing shirt
£10 home game
£7 away game - driving to the longest few away games with 2 or more passengers gets you a free game.
Also starting an incentive scheme this year for those  volunteering their time details yet to be confirmed. Wasn't my idea but hopefully it works to get more people involved off the field

There have been a few people pushing this idea bit it seems like a bit of a nightmare to me to administer effectively.  How to record and value all voluntary contributions during a year seems to be a near impossible task and guaranteed to cause friction
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on November 30, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
£60 per season membership and £5 per game increased last season from £50 as costs are going up such as electric and ground maintenance costs etc
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Kez on November 30, 2018, 09:51:08 PM
£100 and £10 a game... welcome to the south
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: richthekeeper on November 30, 2018, 10:46:10 PM
£100 and £10 a game... welcome to the south

Same. London innit.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: LateBloomer on November 30, 2018, 11:59:25 PM
There have been a few people pushing this idea bit it seems like a bit of a nightmare to me to administer effectively.  How to record and value all voluntary contributions during a year seems to be a near impossible task and guaranteed to cause friction

I did raise this issue when it was proposed. As I said I hope it works but I have my doubts.

If I added up all the hours I spent on the ground last season reckon I could get a decades free cricket! To me if you are volunteering for a reward at the end, it isn't really volunteering
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 01, 2018, 12:12:19 AM
£85 membership
£10 per league game
£7 for a midweek/Sunday friendly game
£3 for 16 over evening league games
£5 per winter net session

I don't want to think what that actually adds up to over a year...
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 12:21:22 AM
30 quid and 5 quid match fees.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: edge on December 01, 2018, 07:38:02 AM
50 and 8 a game. Used to play for a club where it was 50/7, or you could pay either £150 or £12pm direct debit and not pay match fees. Much better system!
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 01, 2018, 09:31:37 AM
There have been a few people pushing this idea bit it seems like a bit of a nightmare to me to administer effectively.  How to record and value all voluntary contributions during a year seems to be a near impossible task and guaranteed to cause friction

Played for a club  that did  that i was  also treasurer  worked okay people who worked for the club ( and there weren't many ) Played and had there tea  for free inc annual subscriptions.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 01, 2018, 09:49:26 AM
£50 Annual subs  and £10.00 per match.
But there's  no Sunday's or midweek cricket   and only one team with a fiixture card of just  18 Saturday  matches.
Or no annual subscription instead pay as you play  at £14.00 per match which for many reasons  is popular  we had 5  matches rained off  in 2018.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: ozcfa on December 01, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
$25 match fee, no annual fee.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SD on December 01, 2018, 02:30:45 PM
Thanks all for this information.

At £55 subs and £10 match fees we seen to be relatively expensive compared to the responses on here but are cheap compared to the rest of our County (I haven't found anyone cheaper than us and the most I have found so far is £150 subs and £10 match fees.

We put our 5 senior sides and 7 junior teams so the current fee level covers our costs when combined with fund raising and sponsorship (roughly a 2/3 player contribution 1/3 sponsorship and fundraising split) but doesn't provide enough funds for regular capital expenditure.  I looking to move to a position where players fully cover the revenue expenditure in playing cricket so that any other income can be ringfenced for investment.  There are still grants available out there, and we have benefited from around £40k in the last 6 years, but there does seem to be less now than there has been
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 07:37:01 PM
That's completely the wrong way round. You should be looking to make 80 to 90% of your revenue from fundraising and sponsorship. It just takes a bit of effort and some common sense, that's all.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: LateBloomer on December 01, 2018, 07:54:28 PM
That's completely the wrong way round. You should be looking to make 80 to 90% of your revenue from fundraising and sponsorship. It just takes a bit of effort and some common sense, that's all.

I think people stopped listening to you a while back
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Tailendfielder on December 01, 2018, 08:13:43 PM
That's completely the wrong way round. You should be looking to make 80 to 90% of your revenue from fundraising and sponsorship. It just takes a bit of effort and some common sense, that's all.

Dont agree
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Novak on December 01, 2018, 08:37:36 PM
Guessing cricket can Come to around 400 to500 pounds a summer season if playing all fixtures
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 08:42:23 PM
I think people stopped listening to you a while back
(No Swearing Please) off then
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
Guessing cricket can Come to around 400 to500 pounds a summer season if playing all fixtures

Only at a poorly run club who are incompetent at fund raising.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 08:46:11 PM
Dont agree

Hey, if you want to pay more money for the exact same product, no one is stopping you.

And we wonder why cricket clubs are struggling for members...
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Tailendfielder on December 01, 2018, 08:49:06 PM
Hey, if you want to pay more money for the exact same product, no one is stopping you.

And we wonder why cricket clubs are struggling for members...

The club i run charge same subs as your club 👍
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 08:53:32 PM
Group hub and a forum net?

The only way clubs round here seem to thrive is by hooking up with a sugar daddy...

Sponsorship can barely cover the playing shirts let alone anything else for most clubs. Not much return or incentive to pump money in to a cricket club

Get some advertising hoardings, brings in a few grand every year with minimal effort.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SD on December 01, 2018, 08:55:59 PM
That's completely the wrong way round. You should be looking to make 80 to 90% of your revenue from fundraising and sponsorship. It just takes a bit of effort and some common sense, that's all.

We can bring in at the moment  c.£8-10k p.a. through this avenue but I certainly don't know any club that can generate twice that amount on a consistent basis year after year so as to allow player contributions to drop that low. I would be grateful to hear your ideas if your club is able to bring  in that sort of money every year
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Novak on December 01, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
Match fees are 10 pounds per match including lunch and 5 pounds if you play on Sunday * 18 games

That's 270 plus 130 annual subscription

That's 400 . That's the cost rougly in South

Any southern clubs cheaper ?
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 11:44:55 PM
We can bring in at the moment  c.£8-10k p.a. through this avenue but I certainly don't know any club that can generate twice that amount on a consistent basis year after year so as to allow player contributions to drop that low. I would be grateful to hear your ideas if your club is able to bring  in that sort of money every year

We bring in about £4k a year in sponsorship, £4k from fund-raising events, and maybe £2k from subscriptions and match fees. But we're just a relatively small club with 2 adult teams and a small handful of volunteers, a bigger club should be able to raise proportionately more.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 01, 2018, 11:48:36 PM
Match fees are 10 pounds per match including lunch and 5 pounds if you play on Sunday * 18 games

That's 270 plus 130 annual subscription

That's 400 . That's the cost rougly in South

Any southern clubs cheaper ?

Cambridge is in the South (and a bloody expensive place to live). We play £30 a year + £5 match fee = around £150 a year. That covers all our costs, including paid groundsman and junior coach and leaves a grand or so left over every year for capital investment.

I play for another club who simply hire their ground every week - fees there are a voluntary £20 a year for regulars + £5 match fees. So this really should be seen as standard.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: jamesisapayne on December 02, 2018, 07:20:00 AM
Cambridge is in the South (and a bloody expensive place to live). We play £30 a year + £5 match fee = around £150 a year. That covers all our costs, including paid groundsman and junior coach and leaves a grand or so left over every year for capital investment.

Out of curiosity how many club members have you got, as I don't think the vast majority of clubs could survive on those sorts of fees alone without serious amounts of sponsorship or fundraising events. Especially as you pay a groundsman and coach.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: LateBloomer on December 02, 2018, 07:27:02 AM
Cambridge is in the South (and a bloody expensive place to live). We play £30 a year + £5 match fee = around £150 a year. That covers all our costs, including paid groundsman and junior coach and leaves a grand or so left over every year for capital investment.

I play for another club who simply hire their ground every week - fees there are a voluntary £20 a year for regulars + £5 match fees. So this really should be seen as standard.

Is this the same club where nobody owns a bat?
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 02, 2018, 08:41:01 AM
Out of curiosity how many club members have you got, as I don't think the vast majority of clubs could survive on those sorts of fees alone without serious amounts of sponsorship or fundraising events. Especially as you pay a groundsman and coach.

About 40 to 50 paying members including kids. Not a big club.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 02, 2018, 08:44:55 AM
Is this the same club where nobody owns a bat?
No, because that's something you've made up. There are several players who don't own any cricket kit other than their whites, and several more who have a cheap bat but then just use the club kit. I see that at both clubs I play for, and quite a few opposition teams.

Of course, there are also plenty of all the gear no idea types around the league.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 02, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
We bring in about £4k a year in sponsorship, £4k from fund-raising events, and maybe £2k from subscriptions and match fees. But we're just a relatively small club with 2 adult teams and a small handful of volunteers, a bigger club should be able to raise proportionately more.

Compared to  my club that's big we had  just 8 members who  paid annual subs in 2018 and no sponsorship to survive the club hires out / sub lets the ground with a prepare wicket at £70.00 a match and splits all the bills with the  grounds tennis club.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 02, 2018, 10:21:38 AM
Compared to  my club that's big we had  just 8 members who  paid annual subs in 2018 and no sponsorship to survive the club hires out / sub lets the ground with a prepare wicket at £70.00 a match and splits all the bills with the  grounds tennis club.

Clearly you're on the verge of total collapse... So you have a rescue plan in place?
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SD on December 02, 2018, 01:59:47 PM
We bring in about £4k a year in sponsorship, £4k from fund-raising events, and maybe £2k from subscriptions and match fees. But we're just a relatively small club with 2 adult teams and a small handful of volunteers, a bigger club should be able to raise proportionately more.


Sadly it doesn't work like that.  We are based in a semi-rural location so no matter how big we are as a club - and we share a small geographical area with a couple of very large teams with benefactors who can bank roll hefty player budgets - there are a finite number of businesses that we can tap into.  Add to that a changing world where value for money in marketing spend points to online advertising.  This is what Blackpool CC, a large club who host Lancashire fixtures and get sufficient crowds to charge for entrance, look to bring in: http://www.blackpoolcricket.co.uk/en/sponsorus. (http://www.blackpoolcricket.co.uk/en/sponsorus.)  I understand the shirt sponsorship is around £2k p.a.  I am happy that £8-10k is a good annual return for a club of our size. 

As a general point, the fees involved in playing cricket are very modest compared to other sports.  The hockey and rugby clubs around us all charge significantly more than the cricket clubs in the area.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 02, 2018, 03:35:56 PM
Clearly you're on the verge of total collapse... So you have a rescue plan in place?

No need for a  financial rescue plan as the village owns the ground we have money in the bank the groundsman works for free the
only bills the club have are for keeping the square maintained  and cutting of the outfield   should the club fold its will be through lack of players rather than money
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Kez on December 02, 2018, 08:49:55 PM
Cambridge is in the South (and a bloody expensive place to live). We play £30 a year + £5 match fee = around £150 a year. That covers all our costs, including paid groundsman and junior coach and leaves a grand or so left over every year for capital investment.


Your groundsman and junior coach cannot be charging a great deal or the other investment must be quite large and I'll guess no umpires fees of a weekend?
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 02, 2018, 09:33:15 PM
No need for a  financial rescue plan as the village owns the ground we have money in the bank the groundsman works for free the
only bills the club have are for keeping the square maintained  and cutting of the outfield   should the club fold its will be through lack of players rather than money

Do you not think that perhaps your expensive subs and fees might be one of the reasons you are struggling for players?
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: SLA on December 02, 2018, 09:34:38 PM
Your groundsman and junior coach cannot be charging a great deal or the other investment must be quite large and I'll guess no umpires fees of a weekend?

I think we pay around 2500 for the groundskeeping and 1000 for the junior coaching.
Title: Re: Subscriptions / match fees
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 03, 2018, 10:46:50 AM
Do you not think that perhaps your expensive subs and fees might be one of the reasons you are struggling for players?

Personally  for a club with excellent  facilities  inc tennis a  club a professional groundsman and  provides a first class  tea wouldn't consider £50.00 annual subs and £10.00 match fee expensive for employed players.
The reason we struggle for players is the village only as around 20 properties  and most residents are getting on a bit  it's also out of the way in the Worcestershire countryside.