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Title: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 29, 2019, 01:34:29 PM: Afternoon all

After a bit of knowledge on the latest stick I've picked up please. Clearly this is a vintage stick, but does anyone know the rough age?

I bought it as a bit of an impulsive purchase really. I've always wanted a Kippax since I first saw one back in the days I played colts cricket (I wanted "one of those bats with the dragon on"). I picked this one up for such a cheap price it would have been silly not to!

I've not measured this myself but it was bought off eBay with the listing 85cm in length, weight 1.1kg.
I anticipate this to be a short handle bat weighing 2lb7 as it is (I'll check both of these assumptions are correct when I get home)

It's in good condition for its age, with just a few cracks on the right handers inside edge. What do I do though? I plan to re-bind the handle and seal the surface cracks.

Shall I refurb around and keep the vintage stickers or get it some of the current Kippax livery to bring it into the 21st century?

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Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Alvaro on January 29, 2019, 01:38:41 PM: Definitely keep those stickers - looks a lovely bat Cam. I often think that modern style bat stickers look rather incongruous on refurbed classic bats like this.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: InternalTraining on January 29, 2019, 01:48:03 PM: Keep the vintage stickers!

Everything about these older models is lovely.

From time to time, I see an old-timer in our league sporting really old Gray-Nics or CAs and they are awesome bats! Old stickers, fullers shapes, and oiled to a dark brown color.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Cholrudee on January 29, 2019, 02:01:03 PM: Blade width ?
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Psi on January 29, 2019, 02:47:17 PM: These are nice bats. I bought a lovely Harrow size vintage Kippax for my son last season with very similar grains to yours. Also had some really eye-catching decals on it - will post pictures later.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kez on January 29, 2019, 03:15:05 PM: Looks like a left handed bat to me too!
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Yorkershire on January 29, 2019, 03:17:31 PM: Definitely keep them stickers¬

I've never been keen on the new Kippax branding, love the old branding and the dragons.

PS the top of that handle is giving me a bout of trypophobia ! :)
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: SD on January 29, 2019, 04:58:40 PM: Agree with the previous comments 're the stickers. Their current branding is dreadful. GMs branding seemed very well received this year with the clean minimalist look and GN have got their heritage range which look great. Would be great to see other manufacturers follow suit
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: JK Lewis on January 29, 2019, 05:38:21 PM: Definitely keep the classic look! Hope you've got some old-timey batting pads too, with proper leather straps and buckles.

Is Photobucket working again then?
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 29, 2019, 07:14:05 PM: Okay then, I'm home and here's some specs:

Weight 39.68 ounces (just under 2lb8) naked balde and no grip

Face width: 109.5mm (shhhhh ;))
Edge at toe: 19mm
Toe in middle: 26mm
Edge at shoulders: 15.5mm
Thickest part of edge: 20.5mm
Peak spine height 59mm

Concaving: none

And for @InternalTraining
Bow: non-existent

I've tapped it up and it feels a fairly solid bit of wood. It's no trampoline by any means but has a reassuring feel of an old faithful. Not one for trying to pump it out the ground but you'll likely get good value for your shots
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Mattsky on January 29, 2019, 08:56:00 PM: Concur with the other folk - keep the stickers even though here be not dragons!
Lovely stick.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: InternalTraining on January 30, 2019, 12:30:58 AM: Me got a dragon. :D

Bat is delaminated though and I haven't fixed it but good pinger.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kippax on January 31, 2019, 10:06:22 AM: will find out the age of the bat for you really like seeing the old bats knocking around the leagues me personally would keep the old stickers on the bat!
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Psi on January 31, 2019, 11:10:08 AM: [Apologies for posting this twice - meant to post it here rather than on the Vintage bats thread...]

Here is my son's Harrow vintage Kippax Leviathon:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/eJmd2rorDzUQjRQL9

These are definitely some of the best stickers and presentation. I thought it was a devil picture but I now see that these are dragons. I particularly like the old style lettering. It's a shame so few of the bats nowadays have this kind of artwork.

The grains are really nice and it still pings well, although on close inspection I think it might be starting to delaminate. I may do some repair work before next season...
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kippax on February 06, 2019, 12:51:29 PM: sorry for the slow reply spoke to my boss today he reckons his dad made the bat around the 1950s if thats any help to you.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kulli on February 06, 2019, 01:01:51 PM: Were people using coloured stickers as early as the 50's?
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kippax on February 06, 2019, 01:26:09 PM: sorry fat fingers 1990s .
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kulli on February 06, 2019, 01:36:21 PM: Ha, did wonder.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Psi on February 06, 2019, 05:34:34 PM: Do you mean the dragon stickers or the green stickers, or both?
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kippax on February 07, 2019, 09:00:13 AM: green stickers will ask about the dragon ones this afternoon
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kulli on February 07, 2019, 09:27:49 AM: Dragon ones were 2000's IIRC.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 07, 2019, 11:25:38 AM: Quote from: Kulli on February 07, 2019, 09:27:49 AM
Dragon ones were 2000's IIRC.

I think I first saw one around 2007/08 which is when I decided I wanted a Kippax!
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Andythomo21 on February 11, 2019, 12:30:36 AM: (https://i.postimg.cc/MKcDDSfB/1-BEF8292-E486-4-A21-BAC9-50026-F1-FC1-BC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPjYX04f)

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Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Andythomo21 on February 11, 2019, 12:33:02 AM: Absolutely love the shape of this bat. Reminds me of the Hunts County Insignia.

Grading also seems extremely generous for a grade 3!!
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Psi on February 11, 2019, 12:20:53 PM: Yes lovely bat and insignia. Looks much better than Grade 3 - maybe 3 was their top grade and 1 was lower grade at that time. I do find the way manfacturers use *** gradings or 1-5 etc. very confusing. Also descriptions like `pro' and `player' standard are very mixed up between different manufacturers. Lots of lower grade old bats seem to have a `pro' labelling. You would think it could be standardised.
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Andythomo21 on February 11, 2019, 03:23:14 PM: Yes I agree, grading systems can be confusing at times. Bat maybe downgraded a bit cos of uneven grains and some heartwood. There are certainly plenty of grains though!

One things for sure, 99% of bat manufacturers would not have this bat graded as Grade 3 in this day and age! (Wow I sound old there)! :D
Title: Re: An oldie - but what to do
Post by: Kippax on February 12, 2019, 11:38:23 AM: the dragon bat was around the year 2000