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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Vicbats on July 14, 2019, 08:05:56 AM
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Hello just want to provoke a discussion on the perfect specs for a bat.
Is there a connection between edge size and spine size where you get the most power?
Why dont bat makers advertise individual bat volume?
Is there a connection to bat volume vs weight?
Is there a minimum amount of pressing that guarantees ping?
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I think this will come down to 'perfection is in the eye of the beholder'.
One persons ideal bat could easily be discarded by another for a number of reasons I would imagine.
I would love to tap up a bat that several people consider to be outstanding in terms of response. In this way I would have a better marker to decide if my own sticks are poor/average/excellent.
I do sometimes laugh when we all go out and buy big bats and then some old dude walks out to the crease with a bat that is clearly 30 odd years old and looks like a feather and still sails it over the boundary for 6.
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Although guilty of momentarily falling into the mindset of believing specs, edge size etc matter after reading a lot on here when returning to the game last season after a long break. I'm now of the mindset of it really doesn't matter. I think its more about using whatever feels right in the hands, as i see people hitting big with various size bats. Pressing makes a difference obviously but to me if a bats pressed correctly then shape, size etc don't really matter in terms of performance. I think talking 'specs' muddies the waters a little.
I also think people will always say a gun bat is one they've got fond memories of scoring runs with. This wouldn't necessarily mean its better than anyone else's bat, just gets overhyped due to the person playing well with it. But surely that's more to do with skill, form and technique rather than the bat?
In short for me it's about getting a bat you're comfortable with, pressed by a reputable bat maker and working on technique/skill more than hoping a bat will do it for you. I haven't come across any 'planks' in the past two years or so I've been back in the game, regardless of specs. Most seem to perform these days, some maybe 'ping' a bit more than others but it's marginal imo.
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Oh dear... I think we'll have to close down the forum then. I'm sure you're right though, the differences are largely down to the player skill and form. If you miss or edge it, it doesn't really matter what bat you have.
I think though the thing at the back of people 's mind is what happens when I miss time a shot, or hit it off the toe or close to an edge? Maybe these thick edges or toes will just help me get the ball away for more runs in that case.
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There's more to the forum than how things measure up size wise surely ! :D
Yeah I'm sure the bigger edges help on mishits a little, but not sure how much. I wasn't having a go here at anyone who is interested in specs etc as each to their own, just my personal opinion.
Nothing wrong with getting the biggest bat you can even it helps only in your head, but what impact it has on actual performance against a bat with lesser specs at the same weight is the question.
That said I'd always list specs of a bat on here because I know people are interested in them, but for me the feel/pick up is all that matters now.
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I am also convinced that there's not really much in it, it's a mental thing. It may be different for people who can actually time the ball or hit the middle of the bat with some consistency, but at my level it's all about how it feels in the hands.
I have used/seen a few planks though, but mostly really low end bats from larger manufacturers that are sold through big chain sports stores.
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Clearly, it's between one of these two:
https://www.sportsdirect.com/slazenger-v500-xk3-cricket-bat-851040?colcode=85104090 (https://www.sportsdirect.com/slazenger-v500-xk3-cricket-bat-851040?colcode=85104090)
https://www.prodirectcricket.com/products/Cricket-Bats-Gray-Nicolls-'The-Legend'-Rolling-Stones-Cricket-Bat-Black-Elite-189449.aspx (https://www.prodirectcricket.com/products/Cricket-Bats-Gray-Nicolls-'The-Legend'-Rolling-Stones-Cricket-Bat-Black-Elite-189449.aspx)
Anything else is not worthy!
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Hello just want to provoke a discussion on the perfect specs for a bat.
Is there a connection between edge size and spine size where you get the most power?
Why dont bat makers advertise individual bat volume?
Is there a connection to bat volume vs weight?
Is there a minimum amount of pressing that guarantees ping?
It is subjective.
I didn't know what was a perfect bat for me until , through trial-and-error, I stumbled upon an amazing bat. It just worked for me - weight, edges, handle, everything felt just right. I haven't strayed much from those specs. So, I now have a blueprint for my "perfect" bat.
It will be different for you, you just have to try out many different bats to find one that feels good and pings for you.
Good luck in your search. :)
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https://youtu.be/HpmfliwSLYY
Thats the bat I used last season and at the end of the season I started using a b3 trott profile in 2.12. Because we play on synthetic grass pitches over here.
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The best I've ever used was a grade 5 Kashmir willow or something, an Indian alcheapo made by DSC. I was able to pick the ball on the middle stump and flick over to square leg mid wicket region for six, leaving the bowlers in shock as they thought they had be bold.
One of the most difficult classy shot in cricket, IMO, is going down the wicket and play an inside out boundary over covers/mid off, to a pace bowler. I played that shot quite a few times, only with that bat in my hands.
Before and after that, I played with many, many bats with all different kind of specs, variation and price range - never found like THAT $20 one.
As I stated before, the major factor of a good bat is, "How it feels in your hands?".
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Tell me more @Sitonit
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Hello just want to provoke a discussion on the perfect specs for a bat.
Is there a connection between edge size and spine size where you get the most power?
Why dont bat makers advertise individual bat volume?
Is there a connection to bat volume vs weight?
Is there a minimum amount of pressing that guarantees ping?
I don't think I've ever seen a bat's volume included in the description. How would you measure it? What use would it be?
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Calculate volume by weight and moisture
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Calculate volume by weight and moisture
Volume is just the amount of space something occupies. It has nothing to do with it's moisture content.
1m3 of water has 100% moisture content.
1m3 of sand probably has less than 5% moisture content.
Both occupy a volume of 1m3.
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Volume is just the amount of space something occupies. It has nothing to do with it's moisture content.
1m3 of water has 100% moisture content.
1m3 of sand probably has less than 5% moisture content.
Both occupy a volume of 1m3.
Correct but the weight would be different between water and sand and water
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Volume is just the amount of space something occupies. It has nothing to do with it's moisture content.
1m3 of water has 100% moisture content.
1m3 of sand probably has less than 5% moisture content.
Both occupy a volume of 1m3.
In terms of wood moisture content: 1m3 of water is ((1000kg - 0kg)/0) x 100 = undefined
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You're right, but that's just because of the peculiar definition of moisture content. It only really makes sense for small percentage of water content. You reach 100% when there is 500kg water in 500kg wood, but we all know that really that's just 50% water content.