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Title: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Chompy9760 on September 05, 2019, 02:21:50 PM
Hi all.
After drooling over and being inspired by all the lovely bats made by the wonderful folks on this forum, I've finally got around to having a go.
I managed to get six partmades from John at Red Ink, three for myself and three for mates.  While waiting for them to turn up, I made a couple drawkives and travishers, which seem to work pretty well.  I also got a curved bottom plane from John, and already had a flat plane lying around.  I mainly work with metal, so going back to wood certainly had it's challenges!

My first attempt was this Grade 3 SH Long blade.  Starting at 1.53 Kg it was fairly light, so the plan was to make a 'high middle' shape, keeping it as full as possible, with 40mm edges and 67mm spine, and see where that got me weight wise.
Ideally I thought anything under 2-10 would be pretty good for a Long Blade.  I was trying to copy the measurements from a GN Shcokwave, which I liked the look of.
(https://i.imgur.com/qJu8VsY.jpg)

A fair bit of two tone here, but 14 fairly striaght grains.
(https://i.imgur.com/9HkJ0ek.jpg)

I was trying for Max Edge 195mm from the toe and Max Spine 225 from the toe.  Supposedly to maximize the hitting zone, while keeping the weight higher, but I may have fallen for some marketing here.......
(https://i.imgur.com/P8few2o.jpg)

Spine went through to the toe, but man I had some fun trying to get that last bit straight!  For a while it seemed that everything I did make it worse :(
(https://i.imgur.com/LOoAvdw.jpg)

Ended up at 1.17 KG or 2lb 9 oz with a tape binding and a grip, without the need for any concaving, and did most of the final shaping with the flat plane. 
Managed to hit the intended specs, and Point of Balance ended up at 527mm from 865mm total length, or 60.9%
(https://i.imgur.com/bK6Agmc.jpg)
I certainly don't have the "Northern Monkey Shine" just yet, but I'm working on it :D

Next one will be more challenging, as it starts out 250g heavier than this one did.
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Northern monkey on September 05, 2019, 03:44:36 PM
Cracking effort
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Post by: jayralh on September 05, 2019, 04:34:52 PM
Like the shape of it. Good work.
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Post by: JK Lewis on September 05, 2019, 05:16:31 PM
Fantastic job mate, amazing first effort, well done indeed. Get some cool labels designed to finish it off.  :)
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Post by: potzy248 on September 05, 2019, 07:42:40 PM
Thats a fantastic first effort mate. Well done.
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Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 05, 2019, 08:38:21 PM
Great effort mate, lovely shape and looks similar to the shockwave
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Komdotkom on September 05, 2019, 10:24:51 PM
Looks fantastic, great work!
The cleft sounds similar to the one I got from John that I made my M&H copy from - 2 tone and remarkably light. I also found this was the best cleft to shape for some reason, the timber just cut really cleanly.
If it's anything like the bat I've got, just be really careful knocking it in. I had my M&H copy put on a knocking machine and did an hour with the mallet but even with a good quality scuff I'm getting cracks across the grain and dents in the face. It's going to be a great bat, just might need some extra hours.
Can't wait to see the next one!
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Mfarank on September 06, 2019, 09:08:00 AM
Cracking effort mate!
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Chompy9760 on September 06, 2019, 12:07:54 PM
Thanks to all for the kind words and encouragement :)

Komdotkom - yes, the couple two tone ones I got seem to be the lightest of the bunch, and there's a noticable difference in the effort needed on the drawknife when I went from this .395 Kg/L density cleft to the next one that's .454

Just starting to knock it in now, so I'll keep that in mind.  Actually had small sliver of the face peel off and jam between the velcro sander face and the paper (the dirty mark you can see half way up the LHS is where I glued it in), which was probably operator error, but other than that, so far the face is looking great, and seems to be pinging quite nicely.

From experience with my son's cheap Kashmir two tone, I'd rather not darken it up with too many linseed coats, but don't want it to crack up either.  Should I just give it the standard 2 coats and get used to the colour?
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Chompy9760 on September 10, 2019, 10:12:18 AM
With a few lessons learned, here's attempt #2.
Starting weight was was 1.77 Kg, also a SH Long Blade, but Grade 2 this time.  The plan was a similar shape, but I knew I'd have to use the travisher and curved plane to get the weight down.
Ended up with 36mm edge, 62mm spine, 16mm toe, 21mm centre of toe, 11mm shoulders, and weight 1.22 Kg (2lb 10.5) gripped.
A little heavier than first intended, but if it needs weight reduction, that will give me a something to play around with later :)

Next to the first attempt
(https://i.imgur.com/IIjwxY1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8hzaxBj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vpi4ahU.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/bt21KfA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/O5ypbQQ.jpg)
Spent a bit more effort buffing a shine on this.  Hard to photograph, but it is there.
Still learning on the job - discovered that it takes a lot of sanding to reduce weight from the back of the bat.
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: tuffers007 on September 10, 2019, 11:13:38 AM
thats a really lovely shape. top effort!!
what did you use to buff it?
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Chompy9760 on September 10, 2019, 12:22:08 PM
Thanks!
I used buff wheel about 8cm dia and 8cm long, that fits into 240 v drill.  Cordless just won't spin fast enough.
I used the product below, after experimenting with a few different waxes, including make your own linseed/beeswax.  This stuff is clear and doesn't yellow the wood.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/gilly-stephensons-100g-carnauba-polish_p1851537 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/gilly-stephensons-100g-carnauba-polish_p1851537)

A tip I discovered was to spin the drill with the direction of the grain (i.e. use CCW spin when working the wheel from the apex of the spine downwards to the right, and reverse the drill to Clockwise when going from the apex downwards and to the left.).  Not so important on the flat surfaces, but makes a difference on the back of the bat.
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Mfarank on September 10, 2019, 03:18:34 PM
That looks even better than the first one! Cracker!
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Post by: Red Ink Cricket on September 10, 2019, 06:49:08 PM
Great effort on both bats so far. Nice shapes
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Post by: LukeFramBurton on September 10, 2019, 07:49:37 PM
Great stuff, keep them coming. The spine is looking top notch on the second.
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Post by: Churchy1989 on September 10, 2019, 07:52:51 PM
Both look great ! Keep on going!
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Komdotkom on September 10, 2019, 09:31:07 PM
Lovely job mate, great work on the spine that is very crisp and straight.
I polish mine with this stuff https://www.bunnings.com.au/josco-sscard-white-polishing-compound_p6327131 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/josco-sscard-white-polishing-compound_p6327131)
Also good for getting a mirror finish on blades if you are stopping them. I use a bit of scrap MDF charged with the polish to get my draw knife and chisels dangerously sharp.
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Chompy9760 on September 10, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Thanks all :)
I have some of that Josco white that came with a pack of buff wheels, but haven't actually tried it because it said it was intended for metals.  Will definitely give it a go now.
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Komdotkom on September 11, 2019, 02:00:30 AM
I only used it because I had it lying around from some aluminium tubing that I'd polished and didn't have anything else at hand. I have used cut and polish for automotive paint too, that works quite well.
The only downside to the metal polish is that you need to have dedicated metal / timber setups so that you don't get the aluminium oxide onto a bat.
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: JK Lewis on September 11, 2019, 07:19:25 PM
Beauty!
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: jonny77 on September 11, 2019, 08:51:44 PM
Good work mate, great efforts!
Title: Re: Another 'First attempt' thread
Post by: Chompy9760 on September 27, 2019, 02:04:15 PM

Here's the last one.  It's a SH grade 2, and was the heaviest to start with, so I had to cut it back to 36mm edges, 58mm spine in order to get the weight down, ended up at 1200g or 2 lb 10oz with the scuff sheet.  This one has a higher middle
(https://i.imgur.com/mjC7rmd.jpg)

9 grains on the face, next to it's sisters.  The bottom of the handles have evolved a bit with experience - may need to re-visit the first couple in the future :)
(https://i.imgur.com/KOLCIE0.jpg)

My concaving skills need work.  The light shows up that maybe I need a cylindrical sander, but in normal light it's not that obvious.  Any tips??
(https://i.imgur.com/JBq4oqD.jpg)
I'm still working on a sticker design....
So now my fun time is over, but I have 3 more great bats to pick from, with a choice of different profiles, length's, pickups and weights.
The first one is fully played in, and I'm really impressed with the way it strikes the ball - sounds and feels great!  It would appear that the Red Ink pressing is fairly firm, as I'm yet to see a seam mark, and knocking in didn't take as long as I'd expected.

Thanks to all for the encouragement, and for the great advice found all over this forum :)