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Title: New England Coach
Post by: FattusCattus on September 19, 2019, 09:51:05 AM
When is the new England coach announced- and who do we think it might be?

For some unfathomable reason I want it to be a Brit familiar with both Tests and our County game
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 19, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
no idea,

Micky Arthur was apparently a front runner but hes just singed for a domestic side in SA I think.

Id like Alec Stewart or Jason Gillespie, both proven coaches and understand the English game.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: rickjames on September 19, 2019, 09:59:10 AM
Stewart didn't take the job last time because he wanted more control in players he had available, specifically Kevin Pietersen. Even with that all over he seems rather happy at Surrey.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Yorkershire on September 19, 2019, 10:00:57 AM
As I said before Pak are going to regret getting rid of Mickey Arthur.

The domestic cricket set up is nowhere as professional as the UK or OZ, and Mickey did an amazing job in my opinion.

Think he would have been great for England where the players are way more professional from the off.

Then again it's the old football thing... should the players should already be at a high standard and not need coaching,  the national coach should be tactical?


Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 19, 2019, 10:04:05 AM
Stewart didn't take the job last time because he wanted more control in players he had available, specifically Kevin Pietersen. Even with that all over he seems rather happy at Surrey.

HE does but the chance to coach your country and make a huge mark on the test team, dizzy seems happy at sussex too but then again he also seemed happy at yorkshire before that

I saw Mark Nicolas wants Gary Kirsten in charge, hasnt he just signed up to the blundred?
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Warneymonster on September 19, 2019, 10:10:38 AM
the amount of time away from home has to be a huge factor in taking this job, I would like Silverwood or Stewie for it but cant see Stewie being happy with that.

is it time to reconsider having an ODI and Test coach so that we can compete on both?

I have just read Trotts book and he wasn't very complimentary of that way but if you have the right coaches I think it would work, the squads are very different compared to then.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 19, 2019, 10:41:34 AM
Id be more than happy to be away from home exploring the world, ill do it!!!

joking aside i think we need someone from a county to step up as they're used to dealing multi format
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Buzz on October 01, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
Looks as if Gary Kirsten has got the nod
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: SouthpawMark on October 01, 2019, 04:21:40 PM
Looks as if Gary Kirsten has got the nod

Interesting. I thought Wheelie Bin had insisted on it being an English coach?
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Mister Le Chiffre on October 01, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
Kirsten was fantastic for the Indians but lacklustre for South Africa. 50/50 decision. The best coach around, for me anyway, is Stephen Fleming - but he's getting millions flip flopping through the t20 stuff.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: ppccopener on October 01, 2019, 06:51:36 PM
Giles did indicate an English coach. Kirsten....correct me if I’m wrong please....is seen as a tough nut.

Is that what the test side needs, unless he is doing both tests and one dayers.

Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: SouthpawMark on October 01, 2019, 07:00:37 PM
I don’t really care where the coach comes from as long as he manages to stop our top 6 being bowled by straight balls time and time again.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Buzz on October 07, 2019, 09:04:46 AM
Looks as if Gary Kirsten has got the nod

It appears that Kirsten has missed out because he did give a ppt future strategy presentation. Mad skills.

Congratulations to Chris Sliverwood, new England head coach...
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: SouthpawMark on October 07, 2019, 09:10:06 AM
Call me a pessimist, but I feel underwhelmed. I’ll be thrilled if he proves me wrong.

On the plus side, at least Wheelie Bin didn’t go for Peter Moores V3.0.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: ppccopener on October 07, 2019, 09:18:45 AM
having won the world cup and Giles saying there is now more emphasis on tests it seems a good time for Silverwood.

the goal..presumably...is to regain the Ashes as top priority.

im quite happy myself with Thorpe and Collingwood still involved in good roles.

the test side needs work but we seem to be getting there a bit more after this summer. South Africa don't seem the same team these days, NZ away could be tricky as we have found out before

but overall, pretty good I think
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: alexhilly1492 on October 07, 2019, 09:37:07 AM
Chris Silverwood confirmed

Underwhelmed but only because I don't know what he's done, I do think an understated coach might be what we need!
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: ppccopener on October 07, 2019, 09:40:37 AM
I think that as well

div 2 championship with Essex followed by Div 1 championship soon after.

Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: rickjames on October 07, 2019, 09:59:19 AM
Don't mind it too much really. If I'm reading the reports right, they only interviewed him and Kirsten? Bit weird that quite a few coaches spoke publicly about applying but either never followed up or were just ignored...
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: jonny77 on October 07, 2019, 11:34:56 AM
Strange if they only interviewed 2 but I'm happy with the decision. Surely if a guy has coached successfully in the County Championship in order to prove himself and also been around the England set up in that time, the reward should be the top job if deemed good enough when it's available? We should back our coaches more across all sports imo. Good luck to him!
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: ppccopener on October 07, 2019, 08:51:12 PM
Thre may well be a school of thought that one coach for all formats is a tough ask, you probably have read about the number of nights away from home is needed for the International calendar.
England always seem to be playing somewhere

Just like players coaches can have short stints for various franchise teams or T20 and earn a decent amount of money.

Like it or not the shorter form of the game impacts all of cricket, perhaps being a national coach does not have the X factor any longer...hence fewer names to choose from.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: thecord on October 07, 2019, 10:23:58 PM
Don't mind it too much really. If I'm reading the reports right, they only interviewed him and Kirsten? Bit weird that quite a few coaches spoke publicly about applying but either never followed up or were just ignored...

I read they interviewed Stewart too but he stepped aside due to the travel / time commitments required?
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: SD on October 07, 2019, 11:28:44 PM
I am one of those fairly underwhelmed by this, but then Giles had boxed himself into a corner but publically stating his preference for an English coach to take the job.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: SouthpawMark on October 08, 2019, 07:05:44 AM
I hear Alec Stewart stepped aside as Wheelie Bin refused his request to play 11 Surrey players in every England match.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Wazza08 on October 08, 2019, 08:33:59 AM
I hear Alec Stewart stepped aside as Wheelie Bin refused his request to play 11 Surrey players in every England match.

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: ppccopener on October 10, 2019, 07:27:15 PM
So a new coach with a straightforward plan of improving the test team, and at last it appears we will not merge the formats ideas as
‘We want batsmen who can bat a length of time and people to fill those spaces’

At last some clear thinking that test class bowling cannot be slapped all over the place from the first over

Whatever Root may think about our style this is long overdue

Burns has shown he can sit in, Sibley has proved he can in FC games and Denly a bit as well.

The bowling is pretty good, if we adopt those ideas we could make some real progress

I’m optimistic  :)
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Buzz on December 02, 2019, 12:57:15 PM
Richard Dawson (Glammy coach, former Yorkshire and England spinner) is going to be coaching the next few lions matches.
Tresco will help with ODI batting and Trott with first class batting.
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: Kez on December 03, 2019, 11:52:09 AM
Richard Dawson (Glammy coach, former Yorkshire and England spinner) is going to be coaching the next few lions matches.
Tresco will help with ODI batting and Trott with first class batting.

Think you mean Gloucs not Glammy
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: rickjames on December 03, 2019, 12:55:33 PM
Interesting choice of assistant coaches with regards to travelling overseas
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: csnew on December 21, 2020, 03:29:28 PM
Kallis adding to the coaching set up - good signing that
Title: Re: New England Coach
Post by: billyb on December 21, 2020, 03:55:47 PM
Can he bat at 3?