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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Newbery => Topic started by: Mattsky on November 15, 2019, 09:32:16 AM
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Seen this new stick on their social posts, but nothing on their website about it yet. Hence no link.
It features a long duckbill and a wibbly wobbly 'half tect' handle that * CYNICAL KLAXON ALERT * provides more power. Apparently.
It does look like the kind of handle you find on an axe. Not that you hold a cricket bat like an axe. Or maybe some of us do?
Not as wibbly wobbly as a Kippax handle, in any case.
Marketing BS? Or genuine innovation?
YOU DECIDE!
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I got blocked on Twitter from newbery for suggesting their different pressing options were a daft gimmick and that bats should just be pressed to get the best out of the willow.
As a result I haven't seen this.
But I would hold an axe with a similar grip to my bat.
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Looks almost the opposite of the fishtail handle from the Uzi which was supposed to do the same thing wasn’t it? Revolutionise everyones thinking on handles.....?
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Whos making their bats now?
Noticed Paul had stopped so presume someone else has stepped it to fill this void?
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@Buzz You can't say sensible stuff like that to all-knowing, steeped-in-heritage, we've been making bats since Roman times Newbury! Heresy!
I would have thoughts your hands are further apart holding an axe? Perhaps not. I'm not a lumberjack. Or much of a batsman.
Churlish of them to block you . They could have at least tried to justify themselves. They probably couldn't.
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Whos making their bats now?
Noticed Paul had stopped so presume someone else has stepped it to fill this void?
Wasn't aware he had stopped making for them tbh. I'd seen this too and would be interesting to see the research which had gone into it to back up the claim. I'm all for innovation, bit this just seems like a marketing gimmick really. Otherwise why not show the research behind it?
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Wavex handle does reduce vibrations and is supposed to push the vibrations back down towards the blade and give you abit more power. Having used one for a season I can say that you do feel the vibrations going back down the handle if it adds more power I am unsure
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Gone off new improved ex Keeley Newbery since I met a few of them in person. Came across as youngish/keen/time-served but also shifty. Quite a feat I would have thought.
Isn't this just the equivalent of 1.5 grips?
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I think Newbury have gone downhill in recent years. They used to make some of the best bats I’ve ever used (early/mid 2000s), but the latest ones seem to leave a lot to be desired.
I was interested in one of their Centurion 100 bats last season, so I gave them a call and asked if they could send me some pics of the ones they had in stock. They said they didn’t have any, but had a few pieces of sufficient quality willow they’d be happy to have sent away and have the logos laser printed. When I received the pics, none of them looked even remotely near G1. In fact, even Klubb Bats would have been too embarrassed to call it G1.
Call me fussy, but for a £600 bat I want the willow to have straight, even grains, and be pretty much flawless.
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Call me fussy, but for a £600 bat I want the willow to have straight, even grains, and be pretty much flawless.
I know where you can get one!
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They've definitely changed tack with their marketing. They're now targeting the more affordable ends of the market with new ranges.
More money in it than just focusing on high-end,.
Just take a look at their site. They're up front about it. No bad thing, but the way people perceive their brand will change because of it.
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I know where you can get one!
GM? :D
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GM? :D
Oh wow 😬😬😬
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I am glad somebody is doing something about bat handles because it is about time!
I'd rather bats handles are customizable than the bat blade because hand shape, grip, and strength are unique to an individual.
Kudos to Newbery for starting the conversation.
Now, here is how I'd like to see them improve this handle:
- narrow the bottom part of the handle with grooves and ridge(s) to better grip the handle in a pinch style of grip.
- make the top part of the handle wider with a telescoping width and narrower towards the middle.
- I am ok with this bump in the middle of the handle but it'd feel like a nuisance to those who choke the handle. I'd prefer the point where forefinger and thumb meet are narrower for a tighter grip.
Basically, a cricket bat handle (for the right handed batsman) should be two handles in one: top part ergonomically designed for the (top) left hand and bottom part designed for optimal grip of the (bottom) right hand.
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GM? :D
Top trolling.
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If Paul Aldred has stopped making bats for Newbery, I'm surprised there's not a dedicated thread.
Newbery's thin oval handles were great, back in the day. Indeed, I seem to remember someone on here desperately trying to find one not that long ago.
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Everyone has done this now. I mean I guess there's only so much you can innovate with a cricket bat but still... GN had the fusion handles and then the XRD handle (I'm sure there were others too). GM focused on the grips- remember when the shock-absorba came out with the catalyst? There was the Uzi, C6+, there's Kippax, L&W, Puma did it...
And now we're back to Newbery. I'm all for innovation, but I hate marketing gimmicks. The jury is out on this one.
I wonder what the last innovation that actually caught on was? Maybe GM's DXM/machining process?
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Might be nice if you happen to hold the bat in the right place, wouldn't be any good at all for the taller or shorter chap who holds the handle at either end. As for 'increases power'... sigh.
There's been plenty of ways to innovate, but if they're any good they get banned. Kiln drying is the only genuine change to bat production I can think of that's stayed, CNC is just a different method of doing the same thing.
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Years ago I had a GN Longbow, and decided to get the titanium handle version.it came with a grip that resembled a tennis racquet grip than a bat grip. It was a mighty powerful beast, but I guess that was likely down to to it being an unusually decent piece of willow, rather than the handle. The one thing the titanium handle did very well though, was send vibrations through your hands and up your arms better than any cricket bat I had used before, or since.
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What % of power do we really lose by using normal oval/ round handle?
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What % of power do we really lose by using normal oval/ round handle?
If a thin round handle, at least 33.33%. (recurring of course).
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If a thin round handle, at least 33.33%. (recurring of course).
Based on some of the marketing claims from some companies more like 133% ;)