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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: galactic soap on November 21, 2019, 12:54:39 AM
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It's officially the start of summer for us down under and while it will never quite be the same without the dulcet tones of Richie Benaud and the verbal electricity and humour of Tony Grieg the cricket's on the telly and that's reason to celebrate!
I'm quite hopeful of a competitive tour from the Pakistanis given their performances against Australia A on a bouncy Optus Stadium deck in Perth. Their entire top 6 with the exception of Harris Sohail seems to be finding some decent form.
At the time of typing Shan Mahsood and Azhar Ali have navigated the first 11 overs quite well - so much so Paines bought on Lyon quite early. Great to see Shan's B3 looking and sounding majestic.
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4/90 as I write this. :D
I was hoping for a bit more fight from the Pak top order...There is a plenty of match still remaining.
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Woeful technique by the Pakistan batsmen. Intimidated by the Aussies quick men.
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This Aussie bowling attack is probably one of the most disciplined in over a decade. Just consistant line and length with very few poor balls.
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Nice to see b3 on such a big stage. @Butterfingerz
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Nice to see b3 on such a big stage. @Butterfingerz
Indeed it is, I spoke with Shan on Tuesday. He did camp was going well and looking forward to getting on the field. He played well but got a good one. If I know Shan he will have been in the nets soon afterwards working on his game.
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Rizwan and Shafiq looked good. Rizwan was not out! It was not a bad performance from Pak batting and we won't really know until AUS bats.
Looking like a good Test.
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Rizwan and Shafiq looked good. Rizwan was not out! It was not a bad performance from Pak batting and we won't really know until AUS bats.
Looking like a good Test.
How many times do those decisions go australia’s way at home, happens nearly every tour.
Was definitely a no ball with nothing behind the line
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Australia already sprinting away in Brisbane, 305-1. Warner 151*, Burns 97 and Marnus 48*. Pakistan’s bowling attack as average as you’ll see at Test level.
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Pakistan are a really poor test side these days. The sooner they get back to playing at home the better, as it must affect participation significantly.
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Australia already sprinting away in Brisbane, 305-1. Warner 151*, Burns 97 and Marnus 48*. Pakistan’s bowling attack as average as you’ll see at Test level.
Their attack is completely wrong - a selection gaffe that even Bayliss would be proud of.
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Their attack is completely wrong - a selection gaffe that even Bayliss would be proud of.
Abbas ripped them a new one in the Middle East but doesn’t get a game in more helpful conditions. Poor chap must be livid.
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According to the commentary team the 16 year old bowled 21 no balls, none where called by the umpires. He got Warner out with a no ball, only noticed when they checked during the dismissal.
ICC are really incompetent. The third umpire literally gets a pay check for drinking tea during a match. Make him do the no ball checks
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According to the commentary team the 16 year old bowled 21 no balls, none where called by the umpires. He got Warner out with a no ball, only noticed when they checked during the dismissal.
ICC are really incompetent. The third umpire literally gets a pay check for drinking tea during a match. Make him do the no ball checks
If that is the case what is Waqar Younis doing during the nets? Shouldn’t he be identifying and correcting stuff like that as coach.
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Everyone pushing themselves will bowl the occasional no ball, and without a warning or being called, you assume that everything is fine, and keep doing what you're doing. Hard to blame the bowler or the coach, when it's always been the umpires job to call no-balls.
There was a good interview with Ricky Ponting, where he said that for this to happen, there must have been a directive to the umpires to not look for no balls, and concentrate on the decisions up the other end.
Initially you'd think not being called is an unfair advantage to the bowlers, but turns out it goes the opposite way.
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I feel umpires should also be docked for missing the no-balls and all. I hope they are questioned for something while they escalate anything the player does!
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Initially you'd think not being called is an unfair advantage to the bowlers, but turns out it goes the opposite way.
I think the not calling of no balls can alter a match.
Obviously not in this game, but in a close contest 21 no balls is 21 runs which could determine the outcome.
Additionally if one bowler bowls 21 no balls and they are called - they'll get fatigued more thus also benefiting the batting side.
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I watched the Warner dismissal. Why was it a no ball. Replay showed up no foot fault didn't it? He's a pretty quick bowler for 16
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I watched the Warner dismissal. Why was it a no ball. Replay showed up no foot fault didn't it? He's a pretty quick bowler for 16
That's what everyone thought. Seems the 3rd ump is in a world of his own. And yes, staggering for just 16!
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I think the not calling of no balls can alter a match.
Obviously not in this game, but in a close contest 21 no balls is 21 runs which could determine the outcome.
Agreed, but after they called the first two he would have moved his mark back. No way he would have bowled 21 if they called them.
Either way it's a stuff up that needs to be fixed - or do they continue the rest of the game the way they started it?
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It’s pretty clear umpires are not “missing” no balls - seems they’ve been told not to worry about checking them unless a wicket falls. This is extremely unfair on bowlers - if the umpire doesn’t call a noball, you assume your runup is fine. Maybe it’s time they get rid of the front foot rule (As suggested by Holding and Chappel).
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On another note, hoping we get to see a B3 hundred at Test level!
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Big difference between the two sides is their batting top order, AUS is far superior in that department. Selection, foreign conditions, no-balls, and ump decisions just not big enough reasons to count for such a discrepancy in (impending) result. Can't say PAK is not showing fight.
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That Labuschagne guy is very good!
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He's started doing a Smith-style flourish to leave the ball. Looks very weird, but clearly effective...
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I have to say that I am in awe of team AUS and their comeback to Test cricket with such performances after the ball tampering drama! Tim Paine is just not getting enough credit for shepherding his side thru the crises and playing the way they are now! Warner is back scoring 100s. Labuschagne is impeccable. AUS quicks are effective as ever. And, all that without Smith scoring any runs!
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It’s pretty clear umpires are not “missing” no balls - seems they’ve been told not to worry about checking them unless a wicket falls. This is extremely unfair on bowlers - if the umpire doesn’t call a noball, you assume your runup is fine. Maybe it’s time they get rid of the front foot rule (As suggested by Holding and Chappel).
I struggle to understand why we can't, two decades into the 21st Century, come up with a failsafe system to automatically call them - it'd only need a simple laser set up after all!
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I struggle to understand why we can't, two decades into the 21st Century, come up with a failsafe system to automatically call them - it'd only need a simple laser set up after all!
How would a laser system detect a foot being fully in-front of the line? Added to that how could it then detect if the foot had slid forward after sliding and what about when the foot is raised but behind the line?
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How would a laser system detect a foot being fully in-front of the line? Added to that how could it then detect if the foot had slid forward after sliding and what about when the foot is raised but behind the line?
I can turn my dishwasher on and off with my phone.... you don’t think we have the technology to detect a no ball?
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Great to see Babar finally transfer his white ball form into whites.
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Azam with a meaningless hundred. Maybe he should man up and move up the order and get runs in the first innings. This was merely a spot of average pampering
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Warner seems to have re-discovered some form now he's not facing Stuart Broad, at the time of posting he's 72* at dinner.
Marnus Labuschagne is seemingly just carrying on where he left off, he's 60*
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The Pakistani bowlers lack skills. Abbas had gone from unplayable to medium paced dobber. Afridi big hype but little to no consistency. Musa straight up average.
Funny how they keep hyping up these 'teenagers' - Afridi, Hasnain, Naseem and Musa. If you don't play enough first class cricket you don't have the required skills when facing top class batsmen.
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Warner and Labwhatever are putting on a running between the wickets master-class at the moment.
On the TV coverage they showed a graphic of Abass' balls and areas, only one was actually going to hit the stumps. He's bowling a tight line but is waiting for the batsman to get themselves out rather than threatening in any way.
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The Pakistani bowlers lack skills. Abbas had gone from unplayable to medium paced dobber. Afridi big hype but little to no consistency. Musa straight up average.
Funny how they keep hyping up these 'teenagers' - Afridi, Hasnain, Naseem and Musa. If you don't play enough first class cricket you don't have the required skills when facing top class batsmen.
To be fair, you cannot expect to run thru sides in their home conditions with such a young and inexperienced bowling line up. Pace does not scare anyone anymore and its rare to see a pitch which put any fear in the batsmen. This is the period of learning where the bowlers will learn that they need something more than pace to get wickets. If any pak supporter thought that they will win matches with this bowling lineup, they must have been hallucinating.
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If any pak supporter thought that they will win matches with this bowling lineup, they must have been hallucinating.
Gold!
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Bloody Jofra, he's inadvertently gifted Australia Smith MKII
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Carnage for Pakistan here.
Brutal batting.
Terrible fielding.
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Australia scoring like its one day.
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Yasir Shah is absolutely awful. Can’t even land the ball in the same place twice in a row. Anyone spinner can look good on Asian sandpits but that’s all Shah is good for.
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Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah might be good but you really need to play them a full first class season before you can even consider.
I personally feel Misbah Ul Haq probably went with these selections because he knows that Australia will be dominating so better to go with "inexperienced, young bowling line up".
David Warner scored his 23rd test century, he has 17 out of 23 in Australia.
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Misbah's decisions are doing wonders for the morale of the team.
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Misbah's decisions are doing wonders for the morale of the team.
Misbah Ul Haq is ought to be messiah of Pakistan cricket, isn't he? :(
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^ No, he is just the wrong man for the job(s).
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David Warner hammered 335 not out
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Should’ve let him get 400 - not like this match is going to go 5 days. Feasted on the worst pak bowling line up
Looks a completely different pitch now with aus bowling
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Should’ve let him get 400 - not like this match is going to go 5 days. Feasted on the worst pak bowling line up
Looks a completely different pitch now with aus bowling
My feelings are that the aussie dressing room don’t like him no matter what they say when questioned and just couldn’t bare the thought of him holding the test record.
So declared accordingly.
No other reason to declare yet against such a poor Pakistan side!
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My feelings are that the aussie dressing room don’t like him no matter what they say when questioned and just couldn’t bare the thought of him holding the test record.
So declared accordingly.
No other reason to declare yet against such a poor Pakistan side!
My initial thought too. Bet he was pissed at the declaration.
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Tbh yes Paine/Langer might dislike Warner - but IMO the highest individual score is one of the most pointless and meaningless record. For example Lara’s 400 either side of it Windies lost 0-3 at home and 0-4 away to England. So what did 400* really achieve aside from pad up the average?
Cricket is all about getting the win
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Steven Smith raced to 7000 test runs in a mere 126 innings - a world record which had stood for over 70 years.
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Tbh yes Paine/Langer might dislike Warner - but IMO the highest individual score is one of the most pointless and meaningless record. For example Lara’s 400 either side of it Windies lost 0-3 at home and 0-4 away to England. So what did 400* really achieve aside from pad up the average?
Cricket is all about getting the win
He could have gotten the record before the end of day 2. Still three days to bowl out a feeble Pakistan side twice. Lara’s efforts, whilst amazing, took quite a while, eliminated any result but a draw, and were all about personal glory.
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My feelings are that the aussie dressing room don’t like him no matter what they say when questioned and just couldn’t bare the thought of him holding the test record.
So declared accordingly.
No other reason to declare yet against such a poor Pakistan side!
600 on the board
Approaching the notoriously hard to bad twilight session
Rain interruptions forecast over the next few days.
Three pretty sound reasons to justify the declaration. But lets not let common sense get in the way of a good David Warner hating sesh :D
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Would’ve taken him another 10 overs to get to 400
They still would’ve had 20+ overs at Pakistan under lights.
Paine was probably eager to bat himself against this bowling line up, might’ve actually got some runs
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600 on the board
Approaching the notoriously hard to bad twilight session
Rain interruptions forecast over the next few days.
Three pretty sound reasons to justify the declaration. But lets not let common sense get in the way of a good David Warner hating sesh :D
Pakistan 84 for 4. Not even end of day 2? Yeahhhhhhh your gonna struggle to win this.
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The real question is should Paine enforced the follow on, or bat again just to add further humiliation for the tourists
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Pakistan 84 for 4. Not even end of day 2? Yeahhhhhhh your gonna struggle to win this.
Pretty incredible concept isn't it. A game plan based around team success and not individual milestones.
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Pretty incredible concept isn't it. A game plan based around team success and not individual milestones.
Yep your right. your bowlers aren’t good enough to go though this Pakistan in normal conditions, you need the lights to do it.
Had warner got 408*, Aussies would then have struggled and it would have petered into a draw..........
Nobody will remember this game, it’ll be another walk over that is forgotten. Had warner broke the record, regardless of result it would have been talked about for years.
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Yep your right. your bowlers aren’t good enough to go though this Pakistan in normal conditions, you need the lights to do it.
You must have missed Babar and Rizwan's last innings. If a timely declaration gives your team maximum advantage (as it did), why would you throw that away just to score another 150 runs you don't need? ...and they still couldn't get Babar out!
I live in SA. The weather forecast for Sunday is pretty ordinary, and rain delays are very likely. Again, why risk a result and bat on for runs you don't need?
Nobody will remember this game, it’ll be another walk over that is forgotten. Had warner broke the record, regardless of result it would have been talked about for years.
You might not want to remember it, but any game where Bradman's record is equalled or broken is remembered big time.
Not being disrespectful, but breaking Hayden or Lara's record doesn't quite have the same charm.
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The real question is should Paine enforced the follow on, or bat again just to add further humiliation for the tourists
If it rains then they will enforce the follow on but weather looks better than the initial forecast. Otherwise bat another 40 overs and stick them in under the lights again.
Don’t see the pak tail lasting too long tomorrow. Luckily for pak this is only a 2 match series
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Warner is using Spartan stickers? Shame, really.
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Warner is using Spartan stickers? Shame, really.
He's been using them for ages, he was dropped/sacked by Gray Nicolls immediately after the sandpaper incident.
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Pakistan ended up reaching 302. Pitch seemed flat even with the new ball. Flat track bully Azam 97. Yasir Shah scored a maiden century 113. Maybe he's a batter not a bowler
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Yasir got a ton! I thought that was the kind of thing only gifted away by England teams.... Sounds like Australia are hitting a new low with the flat decks.
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Wonder what the odds were on yasir shah to be leading pak run scorer this series
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They were pretty ordinary in the field today. Labuschagne dropped a couple sitters - Yasir was one and he also had a stumping missed, but made them pay and deserved his ton.
Quite impressed with the Pakistan tail. Yasir's previous best was 42! Abbas' previous best was 8 and he hung around for 29 from 78 balls.
I wasn't so sure making Pakistan follow on. 2 days to make 287, when their first innings made 300+ ?? Seems to be vindicated (so far) with 3 wickets in a rain shortened last session, but they hardly looked like breaking through with the ball during today's play.
Lyon unlucky to be wicketless, perhaps day 4 will be better for him, but so far ithere doesn't seem to be much assistance from the pitch.
It will be cold again tomorrow, but hopefully the showers will have passed. Two weeks ago it was 44 C and now it's 16, so it's a funny first day of summer!
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Pakistan are simply utterly dire
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As I said getting rid if Mickey Arthur would come back and haunt them. Shambles!
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How many different names is Nathan Lyon called? Here is what I have heard so far: Nathan, Lyno, Gary, GOAT, Gazza. Are there any other's that I missed.
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Yassir Shah deserves a promotion in the batting order, with some experience he could replace Imam as an opener.
I just can't see why Waqar Younis keeps returning to PAK coaching setup. He has gotten more chances than Akmal brothers.
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How many different names is Nathan Lyon called? Here is what I have heard so far: Nathan, Lyno, Gary, GOAT, Gazza. Are there any other's that I missed.
"Goaty boy" is one, but I think you have all of the main variations! Good to see him get rewarded in the second innings after all the missed chances in the first
Do you call this one a chance? Marnus certainly had an eventful test at short leg!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1201401154426392577
I thought that other than the initial no-ball fiasco at the Gabba, the umpiring was pretty good. Could be wrong, but I don't recall many reviews that were overturned?
People are pretty quick to jump on any umpiring issues, so if we're not talking about them, it must mean they're doing a good job. :)