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Title: Current World XI
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 04, 2019, 02:39:20 PM
Following the discussion over who would make a combined NZ/England XI, ive been thinking who would make a world XI?

1
2
3 Williamson *
4 Kohli
5 Smith
6 Stokes
7 Watling +
8
9 Cummins
10
11 Anderson

Made up of a traditional set up (not packed with all rounders) players to be picked can move one place away from where they would appear for there nations (allowing to pick more of the better players)

Id say the above would walk into a current world XI the others not so sure, i would have picked shakib as my spinner but he's currently banned
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 04, 2019, 02:45:21 PM
Should add this is for tests and to be played on a standard ground no need for two spinners etc
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: velvetsky01 on December 04, 2019, 02:50:38 PM
Not sure Anderson would currently "walk" in to this team. He might hobble ha
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 04, 2019, 02:55:41 PM
Not sure Anderson would currently "walk" in to this team. He might hobble ha

fair point, i was struggling to think of another swing bowler maybe boult tbf

can add hazlewood to that list also id have thought, jasprti bumrah as well

I would pick Markram to open but not seen much of him just head good things

West Indies i doubt any would make it maybe holder but hes not as good as Stokes
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: joeljonno on December 04, 2019, 02:58:21 PM
Depends if you are going solely on position, or if you are able to flex who bats where...

Warner
Latham
Williamson
Kohli
Nicholas
Stokes
Pant
Holder
Yadav
Ashwin
Bumrah

According to Howstat based on performance

Min 1 Inn in last year
Min 20 inns in relevant position
Min 1 match in last year
Min 40 wickets/dismissals
One spin and 3 pace bowling.
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 04, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
I've allowed one position movement as it seems daft that Smith Kohli and Williamson wouldn't be on the side

Excluded Warner as he was properly garbage in the ashes like really garbage

Latham isn't a bad shout
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: six and out on December 04, 2019, 03:36:12 PM
I always find picking a World XI very interesting because it hugely depends on where it is where it is being played, it is ok saying 'a standard ground' but Warner has just averaged under 10 in the Ashes and then averaged 489 at home against Pakistan. Similarly Archer looked a shadow of himself on a flat NZ pitch etc....   

So does Warner get in? his Ashes form says no but his current form says yes?

I think there are a few obvious certainties - Smith, Kohli etc.... after that it is very subjective.... but that is the fun!

I would go with the following -

1. Latham
2. Warner
3. Williamson *
4. Kohli
5. Smith
6. Stokes
7. Watling +
8. Ashwin
9. Cummins
10. Wagner
11. Bumrah

Unlucky to miss out - Labuschagne, Rahane, Agarwal, Lyon, Hazelwood, Holder, Shami
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: jjelricksmith on December 04, 2019, 03:57:15 PM
1. Latham
2. Warner
3. Labuschagne
4. Kohli
5. Smith
6. Stokes
7. Watling +
8. Ashwin
9. Cummins
10. Rabada
11. Bumrah
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: jayralh on December 04, 2019, 04:13:12 PM
1. Kohli
2. Rohit
3. Labursc( you know what I meant)
4.smith
5.Stoke
6. Dekock
7.Jadeja
8.santner
9.Starc
10. Shami
11. Bhumra
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on December 04, 2019, 04:32:52 PM
I would argue this is a pretty strong IX tail maybe a little long but a hell of a lot above them with the bat

Elgar
Warner
Williamson
Kohli
Smith
Stokes
Holder
Foakes (arguably the best keeper in the world based just on keeping)
Cummins
Lyon
Bumrah
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 04, 2019, 06:56:14 PM
You've all forgotten Rahkeem Cornwall!
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: SouthpawMark on December 04, 2019, 07:08:54 PM
1. Sir Alistair Cook (I think he’s still good enough)
2. Cow Corner Warner
3. Williamson
4. Labuschagne
5. Kohli
6. Sir Benjamin Stokes
7. Pants
8. Jadeja
9. Cummins
10. Starc
11. Bumrah
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: Manormanic on December 04, 2019, 07:10:34 PM
I reckon there are fewer genuine contenders now than there were a year or two back, so its a more nuanced selection.  Nailed on certs?  Well, I doubt anyone would argue against Williamson, Kohli, Stokes and Cummins, and there wouldn't be many opposing Watling right now.  Smith is also a near cert if you are prepared to overlook the cheating, shameless sooking and general disregard for the spirit of the game.  Meanwhile, there is no stand out spinner, nor are there any really strong contenders for the openers berths - indeed, I debated starting my line up with two of Pujara, Williamson and Labuschange on the basis that the OP's allowed one place either way.  That would allow:

Pujara
Williamson
Kohli
Smith (or Labuschagne)
Root
Stokes
Watling
Cummins
Rabada
Harmer
Boult/Bumrah

But eventually, my selection (with Smith omitted on moral grounds - or lack of morals grounds):

Edgar
Pujara
Williamson*
Kohli
Root
Stokes
Watling
Cummins
Rabada
Harmer
Boult or Bumrah
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: SouthpawMark on December 04, 2019, 07:13:07 PM
1. Sir Alistair Cook (I think he’s still good enough)
2. Cow Corner Warner
3. Williamson
4. Labuschagne
5. Kohli
6. Sir Benjamin Stokes
7. Pants
8. Jadeja
9. Cummins
10. Starc
11. Bumrah

Balls... I forgot Smith.

Labuschagne to open, and Smith to go 4. Sorry Sir Alistair.
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: Buzz on December 04, 2019, 07:27:23 PM
Based on the current rankings

Warner
Pujara (because of the dearth of opening batsmen)
Williamson
Kholi
Smith
Stokes
Watling
Jadaja
Holder
Cummins
Rabada

Stokes probably lucky to be in the team...
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: Mister Le Chiffre on December 04, 2019, 09:45:40 PM
Latham
Williamson
Labuschagne
Kohli
Smith
Stokes
Watling
Jadeja
Cummins
Boult
Bumrah

Williamson not an opener but with Raval being a walking wicket he’s essentially been opening anyway. Labuschagne the bolter his selection is more so his displays in the Ashes rather than punishing Pakistan. Kohli and Smith the two best batsmen around. Stokes, Watling and Jadeja the three all rounders. Bumrah and Cummins are the two best bowlers at present. Third seamer I like a left armer and obviously Boult is class. But you could pick Rabada or Hazlewood if you wanted to.

Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: edge on December 05, 2019, 07:00:59 AM
1. Sir Alistair Cook (I think he’s still good enough)
2. Cow Corner Warner
3. Williamson
4. Labuschagne
5. Kohli
6. Sir Benjamin Stokes
7. Pants
8. Jadeja
9. Cummins
10. Starc
11. Bumrah
An opener who's been retired a year and a keeper who doesn't make it into his own national team..?
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: jonny77 on December 05, 2019, 08:31:05 AM
Pujara
Latham
Williamson
Kholi
Smith
Stokes
De Cock
Ashwin
Cummins
Rabada
Anderson

Anderson obviously fully fit, gives some guile if it's swinging to back up Rabada and Cummins. Couldn't bring myself to pick Warner after his Ashes series. Also can't see how Labuschagne gets into that top order ahead of Williamson, Kholi or Smith tbh.

Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: jp2408 on December 05, 2019, 11:00:07 AM
Depends where you're playing!

For a test in England my side would be:

1. Latham
2. Elgar
3. Williamson
4. Smith
5. Kohli
6. Stokes
7. De Kock
8. Cummins
9. Hazlewood
10. Lyon
11. Anderson

My 17 man squad to cover all conditions would also include Rohit, Warner, Watling, Bumrah, Jadeja and Ashwin
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on December 05, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
Latham
Pujara
Williamson (capt)
Kohli
Smith
Laubachane
Watling
Cummins
Ashwin
Rabada
Bumra

Squad
Root
Warner
Hazel-wood
Stokes (would have to be in top form with ball and bat as his avg isn’t good)
De kock (wk)
Anderson
Lyon
Title: Re: Current World XI
Post by: bigblue365 on December 05, 2019, 11:19:49 PM
1. Mayank Agarwal
2. Williamson
3. kohli
4. smith
5. Stoke
6. Dekock
7. Jadeja
8. santner
9. Cummins
10. Shami
11. Bumrah