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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: jjelricksmith on February 10, 2020, 10:52:18 AM
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Morning all,
Does anyone have any tips for staying more side on? I noticed it last year I was being bowled through the gate by seamers even when i was set. I think it's because i can play quite inside out as my back hip comes through which naturally makes a pretty big gap between bat and pad.
Any tips/ drills to work on staying side on and bat coming through straight and close to the front pad? Things im working on to try and help are getting my hands closer to my hip and starting with my shoulder more closed off even with feet pointing to a straight ish mid on position. I score most of my runs through mid wicket- mid on and the goal here is to try and extend that round to a square cover which i really struggle to score through.
Cheers!
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I've previously had throwdowns with a cone on my foot. With the objective of hitting hard but not allowing the cone to move off my foot.
Try getting into your stance and having the partner place a cone on your backfoot. Then ask them to give you throwdowns (all on the front foot mind) If your back hip con inues to come round then the cone will come off.
Hope this helps - let us know how you get on.
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Keep your back foot pointing to point through your front foot shots and your alignment issues should go away.
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Morning all,
Does anyone have any tips for staying more side on? I noticed it last year I was being bowled through the gate by seamers even when i was set. I think it's because i can play quite inside out as my back hip comes through which naturally makes a pretty big gap between bat and pad.
Any tips/ drills to work on staying side on and bat coming through straight and close to the front pad? Things im working on to try and help are getting my hands closer to my hip and starting with my shoulder more closed off even with feet pointing to a straight ish mid on position. I score most of my runs through mid wicket- mid on and the goal here is to try and extend that round to a square cover which i really struggle to score through.
Cheers!
I'm struggling to understand this - normally batsmen who play "inside out" are extravagantly side-on and have a tendency to stay inside the line and hit the ball primarily through the offside as a result. Maybe you're using the term differently.
is the problem - the angle that the bat is coming down? Or the location of the front foot relative to the line of the ball?
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Keep your back foot pointing to point through your front foot shots and your alignment issues should go away.
Out of curiosity, I just did an image search of "straight drive cricket" to see whether I could find evidence of any professionals that do this. I couldn't. Most look like this, with the back toe pointing in the same direction as the front toe:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1ylpkUI4&id=99F04DAF4B440C7419CF5D4FF35BBBAF17CE86EE&thid=OIP.1ylpkUI4S2vs0ShdlOmn3QHaEo&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsecure.i.telegraph.co.uk%2fmultimedia%2farchive%2f02336%2flyth_2336551b.jpg&exph=388&expw=620&q=straight+drive+cricket&simid=608007733217725663&selectedIndex=4 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1ylpkUI4&id=99F04DAF4B440C7419CF5D4FF35BBBAF17CE86EE&thid=OIP.1ylpkUI4S2vs0ShdlOmn3QHaEo&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsecure.i.telegraph.co.uk%2fmultimedia%2farchive%2f02336%2flyth_2336551b.jpg&exph=388&expw=620&q=straight+drive+cricket&simid=608007733217725663&selectedIndex=4)
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Out of curiosity, I just did an image search of "straight drive cricket" to see whether I could find evidence of any professionals that do this. I couldn't. Most look like this, with the back toe pointing in the same direction as the front toe:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1ylpkUI4&id=99F04DAF4B440C7419CF5D4FF35BBBAF17CE86EE&thid=OIP.1ylpkUI4S2vs0ShdlOmn3QHaEo&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsecure.i.telegraph.co.uk%2fmultimedia%2farchive%2f02336%2flyth_2336551b.jpg&exph=388&expw=620&q=straight+drive+cricket&simid=608007733217725663&selectedIndex=4 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1ylpkUI4&id=99F04DAF4B440C7419CF5D4FF35BBBAF17CE86EE&thid=OIP.1ylpkUI4S2vs0ShdlOmn3QHaEo&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsecure.i.telegraph.co.uk%2fmultimedia%2farchive%2f02336%2flyth_2336551b.jpg&exph=388&expw=620&q=straight+drive+cricket&simid=608007733217725663&selectedIndex=4)
Where did straight drives get mentioned? :)
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Where did straight drives get mentioned? :)
Its an example of a front foot shot.
If you prefer, I will happily google forward defence, sweep, cover drive, clip off legs, or any other front foot shot you care to name, I would suggest that the result is probably going to be the same.
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Out of curiosity, I just did an image search of "straight drive cricket" to see whether I could find evidence of any professionals that do this. I couldn't. Most look like this, with the back toe pointing in the same direction as the front toe:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1ylpkUI4&id=99F04DAF4B440C7419CF5D4FF35BBBAF17CE86EE&thid=OIP.1ylpkUI4S2vs0ShdlOmn3QHaEo&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsecure.i.telegraph.co.uk%2fmultimedia%2farchive%2f02336%2flyth_2336551b.jpg&exph=388&expw=620&q=straight+drive+cricket&simid=608007733217725663&selectedIndex=4 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1ylpkUI4&id=99F04DAF4B440C7419CF5D4FF35BBBAF17CE86EE&thid=OIP.1ylpkUI4S2vs0ShdlOmn3QHaEo&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsecure.i.telegraph.co.uk%2fmultimedia%2farchive%2f02336%2flyth_2336551b.jpg&exph=388&expw=620&q=straight+drive+cricket&simid=608007733217725663&selectedIndex=4)
The difference is WHEN the back toe points down the pitch. If it’s during or after the shot, it doesn’t really matter... but if it’s before you’ve even begun to hit the ball (I have this issue), then you end up squaring up.
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Keep your back foot pointing to point through your front foot shots and your alignment issues should go away.
Yep think this is a pretty key aspect. My foot tends to roll over and looks more towards cover.
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The difference is WHEN the back toe points down the pitch. If it’s during or after the shot, it doesn’t really matter... but if it’s before you’ve even begun to hit the ball (I have this issue), then you end up squaring up.
Ok I maybe agree. Although I don't think Gary Palmer would.
What exactly do you mean by squaring up?
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For someone who used to get LBW'ed (a lot) to pitches landing between middle and leg stump, becoming more front-on helped a lot - somewhat Gary Palmer style batting where toes point down to opposite stumps. If you tend to straighten up early, like I do, then off-side shot options becomes limited. Unless, there is a lot of pace or ball is hard and new, it is very hard for me to cover drive a ball to the boundary.
Off-side is over-rated as a scoring option. So many batsmen get caught out on the off-side trying to play "pretty" cover drives when there are two fielders on the off or leg side. No wonder KP prefered on to the off side.
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What exactly do you mean by squaring up?
don't you watch matches on TV? When commentators use term square him up.
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don't you watch matches on TV? When commentators use term square him up.
Obviously I've heard the term, I just wanted to know what you meant by it and how you felt it was related to the angle of your back toe when playing forward.
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Keep your back foot pointing to point through your front foot shots and your alignment issues should go away.
this link shows straight drive technique but the same principles apply for other front foot shots - https://youtu.be/StkCxAxkQDE
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Check out Gary Palmer's coaching.
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I used to bat side on with guard on middle and leg. I never really played anything on my leg side and never moved across ..with plenty of lbws..
After some coaching..I was advised to move guard to middle and open my stance.. very similar to what Gary Palmer recommends.. it improved my batting massively.. went from turn up and hope for the best to having a plana and structure... understanding why I was doing what I was..
I also was slow in sorting my footwork early in the innings..
Personally I see side on too restrictive especially like me you take time to get your feet moving.. I'm in the school of setting up and staying still and keeping shape..
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^ I suspect this "side-on" and "off-side" scoring nonsense is one of those unquestioned traditions of cricket where everyone just does them because that's the tradition. KP, Smith, Labuschagne, and few others have pretty much proven that you don't need to blindly follow the orthodoxy.
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KP and Marnus have/had magnificent technique.
In KP's case he also had the ability to do the insane.
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^ I suspect this "side-on" and "off-side" scoring nonsense is one of those unquestioned traditions of cricket where everyone just does them because that's the tradition. KP, Smith, Labuschagne, and few others have pretty much proven that you don't need to blindly follow the orthodoxy.
Agree.. it was just the way it was ... was never coached as a youngster but every cricket book for youngsters I read it was side on.. also the reason i never scored legside was because I was too closed off..
Well at 40 years of age it was enlightening a bit of coaching.. wasted years I wish I had some earlier...
But I can't play these ramp shots and switch hitting you youngsters play... its feels.completely alien.. :D
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Imagine you are watching a pendulum swing back and forward.
That is the flow of your bat.
And that is why being side on is helpful
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I’m very much a Gary Palmer fan. I see him for a couple of hours each week, and the improvement in my batting has been enormous. I know a lot of people think batting is a side on game, And shudder at the thought of batting with your feet and shoulders open, but persevere with it and you’ll find that it really does work for shots all around the wicket. It’s been a revelation for me, in particular the on drive and the pull, but it’s also really improved my timing through the off side on front and back foot.
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I’m very much a Gary Palmer fan. I see him for a couple of hours each week, and the improvement in my batting has been enormous. I know a lot of people think batting is a side on game, And shudder at the thought of batting with your feet and shoulders open, but persevere with it and you’ll find that it really does work for shots all around the wicket. It’s been a revelation for me, in particular the on drive and the pull, but it’s also really improved my timing through the off side on front and back foot.
Another Gary Palmer fanboy. :D
I like Gary's technique a lot and I've had great results after applying his techniques to my game as well. As I wrote earlier, my off-side options are a bit limited. It doesn't mean I don't score run - thank you 2/3 fielders on the on/leg side :D - I would like to score in the cover-point, cover, and extra-cover areas as freely as I do mid-off to fine leg. I just can't generate enough power (maybe bat's too heavy @ 2-11?) like I do straight, towards on, leg side.
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Another Gary Palmer fanboy. :D
I like Gary's technique a lot and I've had great results after applying his techniques to my game as well. As I wrote earlier, my off-side options are a bit limited. It doesn't mean I don't score run - thank you 2/3 fielders on the on/leg side :D - I would like to score in the cover-point, cover, and extra-cover areas as freely as I do mid-off to fine leg. I just can't generate enough power (maybe bat's too heavy @ 2-11?) like I do straight, towards on, leg side.
For the offside he tells me to lead with my head and shoulder, and the feet will naturally follow. His thing is all about getting the head over the ball, rather than getting your foot to the pitch. He still wants you to square up your shoulders a bit more when hitting through the off side, and it takes a while to get used to it. It’s lucky his training is all about repetition - it clicked with me pretty quickly, maybe within 50 balls. Hitting through the the off side with open feet and shoulders will just result in a handsy slap with a lack of control and power. I doubt the weight of bat has anything to do with it.
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I’m very much a Gary Palmer fan. I see him for a couple of hours each week, and the improvement in my batting has been enormous. I know a lot of people think batting is a side on game, And shudder at the thought of batting with your feet and shoulders open, but persevere with it and you’ll find that it really does work for shots all around the wicket. It’s been a revelation for me, in particular the on drive and the pull, but it’s also really improved my timing through the off side on front and back foot.
So how does Gary recommend playing the drive? Point back toe down the ground and THEN play the shot? Or does this back toe pointing down pitch happen during the shot?
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So how does Gary recommend playing the drive? Point back toe down the ground and THEN play the shot? Or does this back toe pointing down pitch happen during the shot?
The back toe points down during the shot, the idea being that as you open up your hips your back foot pivots around. It works well for me, as I hate the feel of having my back foot anchored to the ground. It was actually one of the things that really appealed to me when I first read about his coaching.
The way he drills it in to you is to make you hit balls with both of your feet already pointing straight down the ground, with my right foot slightly ahead of my left (I’m left handed) with my shoulders open and the bat raised and pointing at 2nd slip. He varies it up by making you hit in a static position, taking a step in to the ball, and by hitting and then raising your back foot in the air (this shows that you’re not reaching for it, as you’d lose your balance. After you’ve hit some balls you revert to your more orthodox stance, and it slowly becomes ingrained. Another drill is to hit with both feet pointing forward, then orthodox and then forward etc etc.
I’ve found having the rear foot pointing forward at impact really helps me with my timing, and if you get the timing of the movement (mainly the hips) in sync it creates an enormous amount of power. The key is to not shut your shoulders at all when hitting straight or on the on side. The only time you close them slightly is when you want to hit through the off side.
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^ I suspect this "side-on" and "off-side" scoring nonsense is one of those unquestioned traditions of cricket where everyone just does them because that's the tradition. KP, Smith, Labuschagne, and few others have pretty much proven that you don't need to blindly follow the orthodoxy.
KP and Smith? I think WG Grace put the off side and closed off thing to bed 100 years ago!
So many amateurs stand closed off or move their front foot to close themselves off that it's no wonders Gary Palmer can work wonders. As with most things, the answer tends to be somewhere in the middle - close yourself off too much and you'll struggle off your legs, open up too much and you're not gonna hit many between cover and the slips. Surprisingly enough the majority of good players stand slightly open.
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I think WG Grace put the off side and closed off thing to bed 100 years ago!
Yeah, but he is not on YouTube so I can't really comment.
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The back toe points down during the shot, the idea being that as you open up your hips your back foot pivots around. It works well for me, as I hate the feel of having my back foot anchored to the ground. It was actually one of the things that really appealed to me when I first read about his coaching.
The way he drills it in to you is to make you hit balls with both of your feet already pointing straight down the ground, with my right foot slightly ahead of my left (I’m left handed) with my shoulders open and the bat raised and pointing at 2nd slip. He varies it up by making you hit in a static position, taking a step in to the ball, and by hitting and then raising your back foot in the air (this shows that you’re not reaching for it, as you’d lose your balance. After you’ve hit some balls you revert to your more orthodox stance, and it slowly becomes ingrained. Another drill is to hit with both feet pointing forward, then orthodox and then forward etc etc.
I’ve found having the rear foot pointing forward at impact really helps me with my timing, and if you get the timing of the movement (mainly the hips) in sync it creates an enormous amount of power. The key is to not shut your shoulders at all when hitting straight or on the on side. The only time you close them slightly is when you want to hit through the off side.
So, the idea is that you transition from an "orthodox" backfoot stance to toe-pointing-down when you play your shot (like a golf swing). Is that right? Or do you start your shot with both toe pointing down?
Here is what I have noticed: I see the ball better when both toes are pointing down before I start my swing but (this is a big but) in that setup, I find it easier to play check-drives rather than full blooded drives.
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So, the idea is that you transition from an "orthodox" backfoot stance to toe-pointing-down when you play your shot (like a golf swing). Is that right? Or do you start your shot with both toe pointing down?
Here is what I have noticed: I see the ball better when both toes are pointing down before I start my swing but (this is a big but) in that setup, I find it easier to play check-drives rather than full blooded drives.
No, the back foot should already be angled forward. Not straight down the wicket, but pointing somewhere in the direction of cover/extra cover.
It’s easier to see the ball because you have a clearer view of it due to your shoulder already being out of the way. It’s great for pulls and hooks as it eliminates that momentary blind spot. You may well check your drives because you don’t feel balanced enough to play with the full follow through. I did the same at first, but you soon get used to the feel.
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Can you explain the blind spot comment please because I really don't get it.
As someone with pretty orthodox technique, I have never had a blind spot to the short ball.
And I have always played it perfectly 😂😂
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As for the change in alignment of feet thing, if it works for you, great, it isn't for me.
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No, the back foot should already be angled forward. Not straight down the wicket, but pointing somewhere in the direction of cover/extra cover.
It’s easier to see the ball because you have a clearer view of it due to your shoulder already being out of the way. It’s great for pulls and hooks as it eliminates that momentary blind spot. You may well check your drives because you don’t feel balanced enough to play with the full follow through. I did the same at first, but you soon get used to the feel.
Cool! We can incrementally build on this. :)
Now, when I am playing check drives, they are (mostly) in the "V". So, what do you do when you want to play to the region from cover-point to extra-cover? As you said, my balance only allows check-drives and to drive in the cover-point to extra-cover region, I need to move my back foot to regain some balance. How do you manage those areas or what Gary Palmer instructs you to do for that region?
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I think a lot has to do with your own physical makeup - how your own shoulders, hips etc. move and move together as a unit?
Head still, eyes level, moving over the ball with minimal movement, swinging through the line with a high front elbow, keeping head down, being balanced ... are all more important than a "this is how you should setup".
Being relaxed and able to effortlessly move to get my head over any line from outside off to leg is my checklist for whether I am in a good starting position. I know roughly what feels right, but a few shadows strokes usually helps tune what is feeling comfortable on the day. (It definitively varies ... age!)
Of course if you are Rory Burns you can safely tie yourself in a knot and still play well :D
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Can you explain the blind spot comment please because I really don't get it.
As someone with pretty orthodox technique, I have never had a blind spot to the short ball.
And I have always played it perfectly 😂😂
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As for the change in alignment of feet thing, if it works for you, great, it isn't for me.
Reflecting in my comment, it’s more for hooks than pulls. When you’re hooking from a square stance, you need to get the shoulder out of the way, and the natural arc of the arms and bat momentarily gets between you and the ball. GP says it’s why Crawley struggles with the short ball so much. With open shoulders, the leading shoulder is already out of the way, so your arms don’t need to take the same arc, and it eliminates the blind spot. Well, it does for me anyway, and slow mo vids seem to prove it too. I’ve perhaps not explained it properly, but then again I’m not a coach.
As for the foot alignment thing, it’s not for everyone. There’s no hard and fast way to bat. If there was, everyone would look exactly the same. I feel it makes me get more momentum behind the ball, but I totally understand why some people would prefer the solidity of having their back foot anchored and pointing at point. Again, no right or wrong answer.
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Cool! We can incrementally build on this. :)
Now, when I am playing check drives, they are (mostly) in the "V". So, what do you do when you want to play to the region from cover-point to extra-cover? As you said, my balance only allows check-drives and to drive in the cover-point to extra-cover region, I need to move my back foot to regain some balance. How do you manage those areas or what Gary Palmer instructs you to do for that region?
You still start with your back foot at say a 45 degree angle, but instead of pivoting on the ball of your foot and making it point straight down the wicket, you simply don’t square up as much. Square/cover drives are the only shots where you need to close up your shoulders a bit. It takes a bit of coordination, and against the quicker stuff, decent reactions, but as with everything he coaches, repetition gets it ingrained within your game fairly quickly.
Apologies in advance if my replies are confusing... it’s easier to demo it than to write about it!
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^ No, you are making perfect sense! I have lived thru these situations so many times, I know exactly what you are talking about. :)
If I time it correctly and ball is new with a low grass (we sometimes play in fields with high grass and slow outfield) field, I can check drive to cover boundary. In one instance, I was very open but close to the ball (which had a crap ton of pace), and I slap-drived (new word :D) the ball thru cover point region, almost like a square drive.
I can do it but I pay the price in slight disbalanced position because my backfoot moves sideways with toe pointing to mid-off region.
When all is said and done, people who've mastered these subtle changes have gone on to score 100s of runs.
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No, the back foot should already be angled forward. Not straight down the wicket, but pointing somewhere in the direction of cover/extra cover.
It’s easier to see the ball because you have a clearer view of it due to your shoulder already being out of the way. It’s great for pulls and hooks as it eliminates that momentary blind spot. You may well check your drives because you don’t feel balanced enough to play with the full follow through. I did the same at first, but you soon get used to the feel.
Any pics or videos that illustrate the points you’ve made?
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Any pics or videos that illustrate the points you’ve made?
I will happily set up my iPad to record next weeks session!
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Morning all,
Does anyone have any tips for staying more side on? I noticed it last year I was being bowled through the gate by seamers even when i was set. I think it's because i can play quite inside out as my back hip comes through which naturally makes a pretty big gap between bat and pad.
Any tips/ drills to work on staying side on and bat coming through straight and close to the front pad? Things im working on to try and help are getting my hands closer to my hip and starting with my shoulder more closed off even with feet pointing to a straight ish mid on position. I score most of my runs through mid wicket- mid on and the goal here is to try and extend that round to a square cover which i really struggle to score through.
Cheers!
I have had this problem and i found for me that it was related to playing the ball too early. By reaching for the ball out in front of me, my right hip was swinging round as I was off balance. I worked on consciously playing the ball later so they I wasn't over balancing.
I do have a fairly open stance though and i have worked with the strengths of this - quickly being in a position to cut and pull and being able to access to the on side easily - rather than trying to change it
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Reflecting in my comment, it’s more for hooks than pulls. When you’re hooking from a square stance, you need to get the shoulder out of the way, and the natural arc of the arms and bat momentarily gets between you and the ball. GP says it’s why Crawley struggles with the short ball so much. With open shoulders, the leading shoulder is already out of the way, so your arms don’t need to take the same arc, and it eliminates the blind spot. Well, it does for me anyway, and slow mo vids seem to prove it too. I’ve perhaps not explained it properly, but then again I’m not a coach.
I still don't get this. (edit: sorry if this seems grumpy it isn't meant too! I see Gary Palmer has his advocates and I am trying to understand his method, which is more than stand more open I know).
As a side on player, when you get a short ball, your back foot moves back and across, this opens you up to be able to play the pull, duck or sway out of the way.
If you are front on you don't have the duck option and the sway option isn't easy. You are just a target, which is why Sibly looked ungainly against the quick stuff, but he does have a method.
I have spent a bunch of time being coached on the short stuff because I was being peppered in one of the games I play annually. (the coach has seen me play a few times and knows that anything in my half my be in my arc and tells his bowlers to not bowl full at me...! Thanks Medders.)
When I started the session I had my back foot prepositioned outside the off stump and bat raised. We then hit a few and moved to a normal stance and movement with bouncier balls then proper balls (Reeds School has all the gear...)
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I still don't get this. (edit: sorry if this seems grumpy it isn't meant too! I see Gary Palmer has his advocates and I am trying to understand his method, which is more than stand more open I know).
As a side on player, when you get a short ball, your back foot moves back and across, this opens you up to be able to play the pull, duck or sway out of the way.
If you are front on you don't have the duck option and the sway option isn't easy. You are just a target, which is why Sibly looked ungainly against the quick stuff, but he does have a method.
I have spent a bunch of time being coached on the short stuff because I was being peppered in one of the games I play annually. (the coach has seen me play a few times and knows that anything in my half my be in my arc and tells his bowlers to not bowl full at me...! Thanks Medders.)
When I started the session I had my back foot prepositioned outside the off stump and bat raised. We then hit a few and moved to a normal stance and movement with bouncier balls then proper balls (Reeds School has all the gear...)
I think there’s a misconception about his methods and the term “front on”. It may feel like you’re front on (i.e. your shoulders and chest pointing straight down the wicket) but you’re actually not. I don’t know if you’ve ever played golf, had a lesson and thought it felt awful, would look awful, then saw it on video and you could barely tell the difference... that’s what it feels and looks like when you start doing it his way. Yes it looks a bit different as you’re more open, but I would say my shoulders and chest are still open by no more than 40-45 degrees in my actual stance. My front and back feet are pointed at cover/extra cover, and my feet are open by around 30 degrees. It very quickly becomes second nature.
I don’t feel that I am a bigger target to hit, but then again I am loathed to duck or sway out of the way of any bumpers as I very rarely face anyone who I feel is quick enough to get me in to a position where I would rather take evasive action than pull or hook. I feel that I could do either if I needed to though, as it’s still a very solid base.
Sibley has always had that shovel around the corner type of pull shot... it’s not something that GP has taught him, or wants him to play. It doesn’t look good and will eventually start to get him in to trouble when bowlers start targeting it.
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The way he explains it here is very sensible.
https://youtu.be/p4jSxExtPkM
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Thanks the way Gary explains it makes sense. It is basically how i set up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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It's a nice video because it shows he is not teaching something extreme and non orthodox. He is just showing how to make the stance and shoulders work effectively to make really good well balanced shots in the V. I like the ideas about leaving the ball as well.
Another way to get people's shoulders in the same position at the stance is to tell them to get their head perfectly level and facing straight at the bowler. Then you more or less have to open your shoulders a bit in the way he describes. This was the very first tip my coach taught me a couple of years ago and I try to implement it every ball. Previously I used to fall away to off.
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https://youtu.be/p4jSxExtPkM
Ha! 2:57 mark, tank turret. :D
I feel I lose some time (fraction) when rotating like this. I connect if I pre-meditate.