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Title: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: InternalTraining on February 14, 2020, 08:00:47 PM
T-20 effing sucks. There, I said it. I love to watch batting but in a T-20 game, it is just poop! Contrived shots when there are none. Muscle every ball over the rope. Slog. Soft dismissals of "class" batsmen. I can go on and on.

I only watched a couple of game highlights of BBL because Finch had had some good innings - he batted really well. Another one was Chris Lynn's team mate , I can't recall his name but he was hitting the ball cleanly.

I don't follow any T-20 tourneys anymore.

Love ODI and Test batting, so aesthetically pleasing.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: edge on February 14, 2020, 08:05:18 PM
Rubbish, t20 is great. I'd go to a t20 over an ODI every day of the week! Neither have anything on tests, but t20 is a great format.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: ppccopener on February 14, 2020, 08:15:04 PM
Complete rubbish. I’m a purist and prefer tests

T20 gets the kids interested and it’s exciting, there’s a format to suit most who like the game, T20,ODI or tests

Wake up and smell the coffee, we love test cricket but with just test cricket the game would die...

No one wants that.

The World Cup 50 over win was amoungst the best sporting game I’ve ever seen and I’m a bit old
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: Buzz on February 14, 2020, 08:37:16 PM
Don't worry, the hundred will be the format for you.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: Yorkershire on February 14, 2020, 08:38:07 PM
I dont mind t20...its just the right length to take non cricket family and friends...

Now this 100 and T10...not a fan... be home runs soon...
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: SouthpawMark on February 14, 2020, 09:32:23 PM
Who knew Michael Holding had an account on here?

I don’t mind T20. I do think it is very much a dumbed down version of the game, created for those with a short attention span, but I do look on in amazement at some of the innovative shots the top players play. I also cannot deny that it is fun to play on a balmy Wednesday evening through the summer though.

The biggest issue I have with it is the fact that the bowlers are a bit of a sideshow to the main event, which is the batsmen trying to hit them out of the park. That and Bumble turning his annoyingness setting up to 11 from the usual 8.5.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: jimmy23 on February 14, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
The last 2 t20 games this week have been the best edge of your seat cricket since the Ashes last summer.

The major franchise tournaments like the IPL or BBL just get a bit boring after the first few games and no one really cares by the time the final arrives.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: InternalTraining on February 14, 2020, 11:38:54 PM
T-20 is similar eating chocolates, every day, all day, for every meal. Boring.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: Chompy9760 on February 15, 2020, 03:57:12 AM
The major franchise tournaments like the IPL or BBL just get a bit boring after the first few games and no one really cares by the time the final arrives.

Certainly the case with the BBL this year.  Attendance figures were pretty ordinary all year, but awful during finals.
08/02/20    BBL Final: Sydney Sixers d Melbourne Stars    Sydney Cricket Ground    10,121
06/02/20    BBL PF: Melbourne Stars d Sydney Thunder    Melbourne Cricket Ground    13,067
01/02/20    BBL KF: Sydney Thunder d Adelaide Strikers    Adelaide Oval    15,995
31/01/20    BBL QF: Sydney Sixers d Melbourne Stars    Melbourne Cricket Ground    13,275

Fair enough on the grand final because it was raining all day, but no weather excuses for the other three.
SCG holds 40,000, MCG 95,000 and Adelaide 55,000, so no surprises that there looked to be a lot of empty seats.

A couple of years ago the Adelaide minor round games were packed out.
It does seem that even the T20 format isn't enough to capture the short attention span of today's cricket 'fans', and the general public is voting with their feet.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: brokenbat on February 15, 2020, 03:58:30 AM
T-20 is similar eating chocolates, every day, all day, for every meal. Boring.

Ok so why don’t you eat “healthy” (tests) every day and then treat yourself to the occasional cheat meal (t20).. you’ll enjoy it more.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: csnew on February 15, 2020, 08:25:34 AM
Problem with the BBL is that they doubled the matches and it’s become a long boring tournament
The quality of overseas players has also declined sharply - Samit got a gig this year as a front line bowler, says it all
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 15, 2020, 08:59:58 AM
T20 is dumbed down slogging. However, it’s good for beer heads and the casual non cricket fan so is very much required. ODI’s are pointless now as they are just 2020 but longer or that’s the format to die.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: Jimbo on February 15, 2020, 09:30:21 AM
T20 is the reason a lot of kids at my club ever so much as thought about playing cricket. They love the pace of it and the constant excitement and it has meant they've become genuine cricket fans and committed players. Anything that encourages a new generation of cricketers is fine with me.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: jimmy23 on February 15, 2020, 09:39:38 AM
It’s a bit like the latest Star Wars instalments.

Us who remember the originals (test cricket) think they are cr*p but they are aimed at trying to engage a younger audience who will create a bigger repeat/secondary spend.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: alexhilly1492 on February 15, 2020, 09:58:15 AM
International T20 is good and I genuinely love the blast early bbl was ok never liked the ipl
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: jamesisapayne on February 15, 2020, 10:32:06 AM
I actually think the 3 formats we have work well.

Test
I love the chess-like twists and turns of the long format, how a game can ebb and flow and what seem like tiny moments at the time can have a huge impact on the game. Test cricket is simply that, a test of your patience, your technique, your mental ability and much more.

One Day
I quite enjoy 50 overs as you can get a decent cricket fix without having to commit to 5 days or it being a boom boom t20 affair. It's great for having a day out with friends/family and still has elements of ebb and flow that I like in test cricket. Do the middle overs drag a bit, probably a fair bit, but then some of the best cricket matches I've ever seen have been low scoring ODI's.

T20
I love the buzz of turning up to a T20 here at Taunton, the atmosphere always seems a bit more charged and it's a perfect way to spend a summers evening with friends having a few ciders and having fun.

I think the length and pace of the 3 formats we have work well and it's quite obvious that the shorter formats are having an influence on both each other and test cricket. If you look at any of those formats from 10-15 years ago they have evolved quite a fair bit. T20 certainly isn't an awful format, it's a great way to introduce people to the game and I've got friends that now watch all forms of cricket simply because they found the commitment to a 3 hour T20 much easier to swallow than a whole day or 5 days of cricket - these people are now into test cricket and love that format yet without the short format they probably wouldn't have got into the game at all.
Title: Re: T-20 Is An Awful Format - Height Of Cricket Sucky-tude
Post by: nivaga on February 15, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
It's entertaining to watch but I struggle to take pundits seriously when they elevate individual moments of risk taking (or failure) as an indication of the winning teams superior cricketing skills or mastery!

You can go for the highest reward off the highest risk shot one day and it comes off - and another it doesn't.  Last night 2x rank full tosses resulted in both QDK and Miller picking out fielders on the boundary.  7/10 times those bad balls would have gone for 6 from international batsmen.  Yet ENG supporters assign some kind of 'winning skill' to that bad delivery and regulation catches ... and another day SAFA supporters would have assigned some kind of brilliance to regulation hitting bad balls for 6!  Wood bowls one 'bad over' and suddenly he is rubbish after bowling 2 good overs?

In my mind T20 tends towards an athletic version of poker where those who win most often are those who statistically make the best judgement calls juggling probabilities of risk/reward. In longer formats those moments average out quite well and force less risk taking.  In individual matches that can skew things horribly and I suspect that there are plenty of matches where the teams that have made significantly better risk/reward decisions lose. Memories become very short in T20 and reputation are built on individual deliveries or overs rather than statistics.

Its fun, and it has its place as a short format given time constraints - but I struggle to read much more into matches between top teams except about consistency of good decision making and execution of the basics under pressure. Flamboyant risk taking is way too dependent on the cricket god's smiling on individual moments that day (... and sometimes multiple days before that inexplicable 'loss of form') to allow myself to get too carried away about players 'brilliance' based on T20.

*As an aside, when will cricket become baseball where you get 3 chances to try get a maximum, have only 3 wickets/innings and multiple innings per match - because that is where it is fast going?  I think different questions need to be asked about the declines in players/support and I suspect the real answers lie less with a lot of other bumf that goes along with the professional era - like being overly competitive at junior levels that quickly excludes and alienates players at each age group!