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Title: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 01, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Coming special delivery from the Brimster tomorow
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1158/033af.jpg)
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Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 01, 2010, 08:19:23 PM
looks very nice mate pink is the new black afterall it seems!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Washington on March 01, 2010, 08:19:59 PM
Beautiful
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Post by: Colesy on March 01, 2010, 08:20:30 PM
Lol Tom you can see the future! :P

Lovely bat Leo, looking forward to the review ;)
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Post by: cd0070 on March 01, 2010, 08:20:45 PM
LOVELY!! Jealous of the bat and the stickers...  ;)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Washington on March 01, 2010, 08:22:08 PM
CD the Puma lover . . . think you should get back in the casino to fund one of these . . . :)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Colesy on March 01, 2010, 08:22:49 PM
get them from the McGrath foundation website. AU$30. For a good cause :)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: cd0070 on March 01, 2010, 08:24:30 PM
haha can't do right now.. maybe in a month or 2.. Saving up for a trip to Puerto Rico for a bachelor party in May.. And I got the Perfect Storm on the way.. Good idea though..  ;)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 01, 2010, 08:25:25 PM
- Ayrtek helmet - Check
- Ayrtek Modern pads - Check
- Pink bat - Check
- PLEASE SLEDGE ME SIGN - CHECK!!!!

Nice bat anyway leo

is it a puma?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Colesy on March 01, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
haha can't do right now.. maybe in a month or 2.. Saving up for a trip to Puerto Rico for a bachelor party in May.. And I got the Perfect Storm on the way.. Good idea though..  ;)

I might get some soon when I can afford it :)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: harry kovert on March 01, 2010, 08:27:55 PM
Nice purchase Leo. Had the pleasure of having that bat in my hands on Saturday....tis a beaut.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: SAF Bats on March 01, 2010, 08:34:30 PM
For godsake Talisman send it tomorrow we don't need this going the same way as the tools :D

I still prefer the chair, oh the bats its seen
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 01, 2010, 09:01:12 PM
I was thinking about forking out 130 AUD for some pink batting gloves and some pink stickers, around 80 quid, worth it?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2010, 09:03:13 PM
add the import taxes probably not
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Post by: steelcouch on March 01, 2010, 09:09:56 PM
Very very nice
What's wrong with Green?
Youth of today
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Colesy on March 01, 2010, 09:11:35 PM
Ahh but this is for a good cause ;)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 01, 2010, 09:13:56 PM
they have got rid of green pumas! thats the problem!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 02, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
- Ayrtek helmet - Check
- Ayrtek Modern pads - Check
- Pink bat - Check
- PLEASE SLEDGE ME SIGN - CHECK!!!!

Nice bat anyway leo

is it a puma?

Yeah its a Puma made for a current England player
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: quick-keep on March 02, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Kieswetter? Flintoff?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 03, 2010, 11:52:56 AM
Got the bat today :)
OH MY GOD, its in a different class to any bat I have EVER had before. Picks up so nicely, pings really well. Knocking it in for nets on Saturday... Im half scared to use it, its so nice!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: peplow on March 03, 2010, 11:55:23 AM
Sounds amazing mate, looks the business!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Washington on March 03, 2010, 11:55:45 AM
Whats the weight of it Leo?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Mr Cricket on March 03, 2010, 12:10:29 PM
how on earth did you get a piece of willow like that!?

looks absolutely incredible leo... i take it you got it thru mike?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 03, 2010, 12:21:14 PM
Yeah through the Podfather
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Colesy on March 03, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
Just don't go breaking it like your Redback ;)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 03, 2010, 12:34:54 PM
lol, full review and pics coming soon... I dont think Im even worthy to use this bat!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Mr Cricket on March 03, 2010, 12:36:11 PM
did you get the stickers direct from the mcgrath foundation?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 03, 2010, 12:40:02 PM
Mike did yeah as an experiment to see what the quality was like
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Post by: harry kovert on March 03, 2010, 12:49:45 PM
I feel the same about my 2 Newberys Leo...slightly scared to use them and hoping I can do them justice.

How much knocking in are you planning on doing out of interest. Mike's of the opinion you can get away with half an hour but I'm going to be doing plenty more than that!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Colesy on March 03, 2010, 01:17:38 PM
I did mine for half an hour and it's fine :) first game I used it I toed a lot as I had to hit out which helped knock in the toe lol.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: kenbriooo on March 03, 2010, 02:17:52 PM
Leo my friend did not knock his bat in at all and it survived pretty well the first net session, however he does wish he had put a bit of time knocking it in.  But I think aslong as you do the edges and toe and face soft/older balls it will only take about 30 to 60 minutes.  But I'd probably do more with a bat like that!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Buzz on March 03, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
Personally I think it is worth giving the bat as much protection as possible so trying to give it at least two hours knocking in - however tedius, especially with it being the preseason indoor net season where bowlers have been known to use terrible or cheap balls, which can ruin many a wonderful bat... just a thought (and maybe from slight experience a few years ago...) :(
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: jandgcricket on March 03, 2010, 02:43:16 PM
Looks a cracker, i'm still a little confused how fake bats can be pictured on the forum...Let alone sold, but I don't know the exact details.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 02:49:16 PM
Genuine Puma, how can it be fake? Maybe you are moving in the wrong circles Bully ;)
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Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 02:51:23 PM
cool great stuff so this is the 300$ model available through the mcgrath foundation website?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: SillyShilly on March 03, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
Does it look like a grade 3 willow bat to you Liam?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 03:03:55 PM
only just realised dom that the one on the mcgrath foundation website is a grade 3.... its labelled as a 6000 thats why i thought it was a G1.

My mistake.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Genuine Puma, how can it be fake? Maybe you are moving in the wrong circles Bully ;)
So by that I guess the bat was purchased through Julian at Puma with them receiving the full money for the bat?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: harry kovert on March 03, 2010, 03:25:43 PM
Personally I think it is worth giving the bat as much protection as possible so trying to give it at least two hours knocking in - however tedius, especially with it being the preseason indoor net season where bowlers have been known to use terrible or cheap balls, which can ruin many a wonderful bat... just a thought (and maybe from slight experience a few years ago...) :(

That's my concern Buzz.....and why I probably won't use my Newberys until outdoor nets start when I can have some throw downs with some old balls that I have procured myself....It does seem a little strange that our Coach only provides crap bat breaker balls [which shall for future reference be referred to as 3B's]
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: jandgcricket on March 03, 2010, 03:31:49 PM
So by that I guess the bat was purchased through Julian at Puma with them receiving the full money for the bat?
Agreed, also if he bought the stickers "as an experiment" surely it would have to be applied to a genuine plain Puma Mcgrath Foundation?  And why would Mike do this if he had the original in the first place, as he can see the sticker quality. 
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 03, 2010, 04:12:02 PM
Guessing it is a pros puma supplied blank and mike applied the gen stickers
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Howzat on March 03, 2010, 04:14:33 PM
Correct Liam, Gareth use your brain, if you buy a Mcgrath bat they come with stickers. He also sells the stickers to make money for the charity...
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: jandgcricket on March 03, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
But how do we know it's still a genuine Puma?  We don't, unless you have proof.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Buzz on March 03, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
But how do we know it's still a genuine Puma?  We don't, unless you have proof.
I think in this case it makes no difference as the stickers are sold for charity... I appreciate there is a desire to take the proverbial out of a certain member of the forum - but I don't see this as the same as buying a blank plank and stickering it as a £300 kookaburra and putting it on ebay... especially as when the bats are sold they are typically a low grade bat, as you have identified above...
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 04:36:14 PM
Julian at Puma?, have no idea about the marketing world you high fliers mix in Tom, us grunts at the bottom of the pile are just concerned with willow and making the best possible bats from it. I guess you know that brands who can't and don't make their own bats buy them in from those that can, sometimes those that can will not always ship on a bat for some reason, it that case it can end up elsewhere, like this one has.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: patty93 on March 03, 2010, 04:42:28 PM
MY GOD! I don't know how many times i've had to say this across this foum but if he's happy with his purchase, (in this case he is) then bloody hell! leave him to it!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
Julian at Puma?, have no idea about the marketing world you high fliers mix in Tom, us grunts at the bottom of the pile are just concerned with willow and making the best possible bats from it. I guess you know that brands who can't and don't make their own bats buy them in from those that can, sometimes those that can will not always ship on a bat for some reason, it that case it can end up elsewhere, like this one has.
So if I bought a plain polo shirt from the factory which makes Lacoste polo shirts. Bought a seperate crocodile logo and stuck that on is it a genuine Lacoste polo? If I take a blank SG and stick Kooka stickers on is it genuine?

If you did buy it from Tim/Puma's supplier and cut Puma out it's not a genuine Puma and never will be regardless of stickers and who it was made for.

All this is besides the point though I guess, it's a lovely bat and performs brilliantly.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
I'm not sure who makes Lacoste polo shirts so you have me their Tom. But when Puma order bats for their International players from the best bat maker in the business then I would think whatever he makes for them is going to be a Puma bat. Therein lies the crux of our clash of opinions, you see a bat as something made for you in a factory with stickers added to make it your product, I see it as a bat.

Not sure what the performance will be like, it taps up very well.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Black Cat Cricket on March 03, 2010, 05:15:12 PM
I have no doubt that if an international player was using that bat, Puma would tell you it's a genuine Puma and would take credit for the runs scored etc, regardless of whether that particular bat went through their books at their HQ or not...
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
Leo is not an international player yet..... but he has plans.....
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 05:30:49 PM
Puma ordered the bat, they never received it and would therefore have never paid for it due to it going somewhere else. From my understanding this particular bat was never their property and it was consequently never a Puma bat.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: cd0070 on March 03, 2010, 05:36:56 PM
So the Lacoste polo made at the factory contracted by Lacoste, doesn't get shipped to their headquarters isn't a Lacoste polo??   ???
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 05:42:06 PM
something fishy going on here!

Can someone clarify, is this bat a puma that has had puma labels added or is it just a plain bat that was stickered up?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: peplow on March 03, 2010, 05:43:53 PM
Its a bat meant for a puma signed player, that wasnt required by the puma player i believe....
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: SillyShilly on March 03, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
Tom - Theoretically,  if i was to go to hunts and pick out one of your blank mongoose's and then use stickers that you sold on an external site, would this bat still not be a mongoose because you havnt got your cut?
 To me, and probably most other people, that bat would be a mongoose regardless of whether you have made the profit or someone else.

Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 05:49:16 PM
Bat rejected by the bat maker and another made in its place, most if not all other companies would haver sent it. Made for an order of 4 for a player, to his spec's. I added the Ballistic stickers as I got a set to check the quality, I also added a Lekka grip to check the quality of that too, not claiming the bat is a Lekka!!!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 05:54:59 PM
Theoretically SS it's a fake yes. The bat isn't a genuine Mongoose as it isn't authorised by us. Another slightly different example is that if I import Levi jeans from America and sell them here they're not genuine in the eyes of the law.

You didn't claim the bat was a Lekka, but you claimed it was a genuine Puma.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 05:56:32 PM
so who made the bat you said the best batmaker in the world did it come from New Zealand ??????????
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 05:59:59 PM
OK then would this be better,

A genuine Pro spec bat made to England Players spec's supplied by Puma, but rejected by the bat maker as not quite right and sold with a Genuine set of Puma stickers and genuine Lekka grip. Please say yes Tom.

New Zealand!!!!!!!!!!!!!! full of Sheep and Sheep S.......'s
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 03, 2010, 06:01:30 PM
Shearer's?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:02:08 PM
laver and marty over talisman and anybody else on this forum sorry only won winner stats do not lie
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: cd0070 on March 03, 2010, 06:02:13 PM
Tom just wondering are all of your sponsored players using the bats made from the same batmaker??
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 06:03:17 PM
We have 3 batmakers CD0070 so no, some want them made in India and some want them made in the UK.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 06:03:37 PM
Of course, just couldn't spell that.

Ask Marty where he gets his willow from?

Send me those stat's.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
i am staying out of this one i have evolved all i know is it looks a nice bat a little over exaggeration  maybe with the description but if the buyers happy and the sellers is to then so what might have to put up my Rahul Dravid tapebat Match used
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
what mike your telling me you alone sell more handmade bats than Laver
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 03, 2010, 06:07:40 PM
Think hes giving an inkling as to where Marty may source his willow from...but maybe me getting the wrong end of the bat (which sounds painful in itself!!)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 06:10:07 PM
Not me, but a friend, happen to know a little about bat making in New Zealand though.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: cd0070 on March 03, 2010, 06:12:40 PM
Thanks Tom,

Who's standard does the bat have to met Mongoose (if its Mongoose how do you verify the bats from India) or the players? Meaning does the bat come to you first and than someone approves it to say this is good enough and sends it on to the players? Also what happens if the players don't like the bat approved?

I ask for 2 reasons, first just to know how it works.. 2nd if the scenario I mentioned about the player not liking the bat, what happens to that bat? Surely that bat must be better than the other Mongoose bats on the market, how can one get one of those bats? 

Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 06:16:25 PM
Bats come to us, I sticker them and approve them then send them onto the players. If the players don't like the bats we have them back and use them for demo purposes or occasionally sell them.

These days though I know pretty much what all our sponsored players and players we supply bats to like.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:16:55 PM
if he happy with the bat all that matters but and it a big but if that was sold by somebody new or not in the click i bet there would be something to say about it without doubt.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 06:19:55 PM
I see many bats being sold as something they are not, but I happen to know its roots from rough cleft to Leo's new toy so what would you do? If I said it was just a bog standard bat I'd be lying, surely it is better to give some history to a bat when you sell it.

The real problem is knowing far more about people and the industry than you can print.....
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:22:25 PM
for what it worth looks alone looks a cracker i do not like the stickers bud hope it goes well up at Uxbridge mate
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: cd0070 on March 03, 2010, 06:22:37 PM
Thanks Tom, would love to see one of the pro bats even if it was rejected if you have one around can you send me a few pics.. Which one of your players has the most demands on details of the bat or are they all pretty easy going?
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2010, 06:27:15 PM
With bats Azhar Mahmood is the pickiest, spent 2-3hrs just getting the handle shaped right. We also have a player who drew round his hands to get his gloves the right size.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:28:04 PM
get any fussy pad men tom
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: procricket on March 03, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
mike how much would one of these bats cost if made available to the general public
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 06:34:34 PM
They're not available, just a fluke I had this one and owed Leo after messing him around with the tools.

I have something heavier here that might be of interest though.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: cd0070 on March 03, 2010, 06:36:21 PM
thanks Tom..
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
If pro cricket isn't mike please pm me as I would be interested.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: steelcouch on March 03, 2010, 06:37:06 PM
what weight is that bat Mike.
(great looking bats recently by the way)
I always think that if people are talking about you, then you are doing something right!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 06:40:11 PM
I'm a argumentative sod, so apologies to those who take it all seriously....

Leo's is 2.9 finished, the one here is 2.10 blank with 41mm edges.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: harry kovert on March 03, 2010, 06:42:44 PM
Mike....is the 2.10 the relative of my Newbery Custom?
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Post by: Colesy on March 03, 2010, 06:45:54 PM
what weight is that bat Mike.
(great looking bats recently by the way)
I always think that if people are talking about you, then you are doing something right!

Don't forget to mention the sofa!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 06:53:55 PM
Its only a chair, and it may have to go one day so rest assured it will be sold on here.

It is a similar looking beast, you did see it.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: harry kovert on March 03, 2010, 07:16:22 PM
Tis a case of the beast being a beauty then...I'm sure if/once you put pics up it will fly off the sofa!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 07:18:12 PM
The blank is not the same as Leo's in shape. It is a completely different shape, sold it's friend a few minutes ago and may well put it up.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: FattusCattus on March 03, 2010, 07:20:02 PM
quote Don't forget to mention the sofa!
[/quote]

That chair needs some seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerious signage and branding on it!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: kenbriooo on March 03, 2010, 07:21:55 PM
I love it when a topic takes a random life of it's own and blows up from 2 pages to 6 before you've had time to check back in!!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: harry kovert on March 03, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
I thought so...was comparing to mine in shape rather than Leo's "Puma" ; ]
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: petehosk on March 03, 2010, 07:25:40 PM
Do you know - Mike is missing a trick with his sofa/chair!
He could sell advertising space on there!! Marketing possibilities!
They advertise by the sides of motorways - why not on Mikes chair when he's showing off his bats?  :)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: FattusCattus on March 03, 2010, 07:27:19 PM
Good idea - anyone know a good graphics guy - oh me - yay!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Washington on March 03, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
As LB94 would have asked . . . .

"Where can I get a Lacoste bat but made by Levi's with the Puma profile???" :)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: petehosk on March 03, 2010, 07:28:54 PM
Mr Cattus

Any chance that you could do some advertising graphics on my sheepskin rug - may as well get on the advertising band-wagon myself!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 07:29:34 PM
Tbd pete, brimbles chair is not a patch on your bat rug!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: petehosk on March 03, 2010, 07:35:42 PM
Need my bat rug replacing as the dogs destroyed its beauty during all the bad weather!  :(
A few tears were shed - my beloved bat rug! But am looking for a mark.2 rug as we speak!

My bat rug may be of been a thing of true beauty compared with Mikes chair, but his chair has seen some absolute magnificent willow!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 07:39:55 PM
You're right, I've handled some serious wood while sat in this chair with the laptop in front of me.
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 07:41:12 PM
Hopefully not while intently watching the computer screen mike! Ps still want a chat I'll pm my number
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: petehosk on March 03, 2010, 07:41:58 PM
I must admit that I have had my share of handling my wood on the rug in front of the fire too!  ???
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Tumo on March 03, 2010, 07:53:14 PM
I must admit that I have had my share of handling my wood on the rug in front of the fire too!  ???

The difference is Pete, the wood you're talking about is actual wood... Haha  ;)
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: petehosk on March 03, 2010, 07:59:33 PM
 :D
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 08:00:25 PM
Please let the man write innuendo without ruining it for him.....
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Beachcricket on March 03, 2010, 08:02:16 PM
That is one nice piece of wood
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 08:03:10 PM
I have wood
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 08:03:53 PM
Best not phone you now then, will give you a call in the morning when you have calmed down!!!
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: seedy on March 03, 2010, 08:17:22 PM
Oh mike I have more wood in the morning than tonight
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
It will be a very uncomfortable call for me to make then.....
Title: Re: My new bat...
Post by: SAF Bats on March 03, 2010, 08:33:36 PM
laver and marty over talisman and anybody else on this forum sorry only won winner stats do not lie

Not proclaiming I am [so as my Norb account] but I would say neither of those 2 [maybe start another thread though]