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Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: Howzat on August 11, 2008, 07:56:58 AM
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As some of you may know Kippax allow you to buy your own willow tree for £100 and then they make 10 high quality bats out of it in 20 years time!
I was confused about some aspects so i emailed Kippax and asked a few questions which i thought you would like to see!
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From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.com [mailto:xxxxx@xxxx.com]
Sent: Sat 09/08/2008 19:25
To: info@kippaxcricket.co.uk
Subject: Own willow tree
Hello,
I'm rather interested in this item http://www.kippaxcricket.co.uk/bat_willow.html
But i have a few questions i wish to ask. What if kippax cricket isn't around in 15-20 years when i will get my "yield"? Also what would happen if my tree was to become diseased/flooded/struck by lightening or something similar?
You say I will get 10 exclusive top of the range bats from my tree but how can you tell the willow will be top of the range? That can only be told once the tree has been felled. Also what will happen to the rest of the wood that remains from the tree, I'm sure more than 10 can be made?
Thanks
Leo
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Hi,
1. If Kippax isn't around you have a certificate of ownership of the tree.
2. Any issue with disease etc, tree would be swapped.
3. You can tell how good a tree is by the leaf and bark condition but experience is the main factor, you don't have to fell the tree to gauge quality.
4. The remainder of clefts from the felled tree remain ours after the 10 bats have been made.
Regards, Chris Kippax.
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but if kippax isnt around do you actualy get the bats made because he hasnt actualy said that, also does anyone know how many bats you could get from an average tree? if its a lot the fact they get the rest doesnt seem good for the buyer
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You'd get the tree if Kippax wasn't around, which doesn't seem that bad.
I think for £100 it's not bad, just a long time to wait for the investment to pay off but with bats over £400 now 10 bats for £100 may be a bargain in 20 years.
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so realy if kippax wernt around then realy you get as many bats as possible from the tree? provided you get some one to cut the tree etc?
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You'd need to get someone to cut the tree and harvest the clefts. But I believe that you can also sell trees to some willow growers.
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What's the catch, it seems a bit too good to be true
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Was wondering the same MaXXed
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I suppose they want some funding and investment to plant some new trees. They're getting £100 and at the end they'll come out of it with a number of their own clefts.
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They will make a lot of extra clefts after they have made your 10 so say they make 5 extra off each tree...
Say 300 people buy a tree... 300 x 5 = 1500 bats kippax get for free and sell for a profit
Thats the way i see it
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Has anyone bought one of these just wondering if its a worth while investment maybe for my son as they take 15 to 20 years
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why not. js wrights will plant a few sets for you too if you wanted. you just need to have the right amount of moisture, I.e. pretty wet ground i think.
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ive seen this before thought it wasnt a bad idea for people with young kids.
kippax have been about a long time and i think they supply willow to a few people including GM
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You could just invest the 100 pounds in stocks or get a long direct term deposit in a bank. 20 years from now you should be able to buy a lot of brand new bats.
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You could just invest the 100 pounds in stocks or get a long direct term deposit in a bank. 20 years from now you should be able to buy a lot of brand new bats.
After 20 years you get 10 bats and lets say the average price of each bat is £100, the total return is £1000 which means you are could/should make a profit of £900 over 20 years which is £45 per year. You're never going to get anywhere near 45% interest from putting the money in the bank and you probably won't get that from investing in shares either(plus with us on the brink of a massive economic collapse there is a real chance that you could infact lose all of your investment that way).
This does sound like a very good investment, although I will be doing further research into it(as should everybody else) because I like to know where my investment is going and if the company I am investing in are a reputable company.
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thats not how compound interest works, mind you...
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You'd only need 12.2% interest from a bank to get £1000 after 20 years, due to compound interest.
But still - you won't find any banks offering that and cricket bats are much more fun!
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Tom, given that banks are only offering 2%, that £100 in trees to get £900 back in 20 years doesn't look so bad... Although once you introduce the time value of money and the discount rate you'd be looking at, it's probably more like £500 return based on cash in hand today.