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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gunn & Moore => Topic started by: jayralh on April 08, 2020, 11:22:50 AM
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What are your thoughts regarding 404 models across all range. Just picked Noir 404. I could see 6 grains but barely visible due to bleaching. Would like to know your thoughts/experince with 404s.
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I had ordered a 404 zelos from PDC an year or so ago..the bat had very nice straight grains but a pin knot in the playing area..the bat picked great and the ping was superior to a lot of 909s that passed through my hands. The bat didn't feel hard like a GM either, it was quite springy.
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Yes it is blind buy. for the price i paid i cant complain about looks. it certainly has clean face with few specks. Respond with ball is good as well. It has deeper sound when ball strikes. But will need further play in that not gonna happen anytime soon. Is there anything that could be done to make grains more prominent. I have applied oil to back lets see if that makes any difference.
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They can be great value. I had a Chrome 404 last year for £35 and sold on to a club friend who is very happy with it. Not pretty but it knocked up very nicely.
There's a really nice review on line by that guy who people send their bats to for prepping. I think he's in NZ and works out of a shed, but I can't find his YouTube channel right now. Anyone else got the link? He shows how to knock a 404 in properly and get it responding well. He takes off the factory scuff sheet as this stops you rounding off the edges properly
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They can be great value. I had a Chrome 404 last year for £35 and sold on to a club friend who is very happy with it. Not pretty but it knocked up very nicely.
There's a really nice review on line by that guy who people send their bats to for prepping. I think he's in NZ and works out of a shed, but I can't find his YouTube channel right now. Anyone else got the link? He shows how to knock a 404 in properly and get it responding well. He takes off the factory scuff sheet as this stops you rounding off the edges properly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCKFZzO609Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCKFZzO609Y)
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Yeah watched that one along with few other 404 reviews. I will keep the scuff on without knocking edges as edges are already rounded and it's round face aswell. I think I have found my perfect bat Weight and handle wise. Have to finalize things after I get chance to use it
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They can be great value. I had a Chrome 404 last year for £35 and sold on to a club friend who is very happy with it. Not pretty but it knocked up very nicely.
There's a really nice review on line by that guy who people send their bats to for prepping. I think he's in NZ and works out of a shed, but I can't find his YouTube channel right now. Anyone else got the link? He shows how to knock a 404 in properly and get it responding well. He takes off the factory scuff sheet as this stops you rounding off the edges properly
@Marc28 Out of NZ? Haha, he wishes.
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I picked up this Chrome 404 a couple of years back and it went as well as all my other GM bats at the time. You can get some stunning examples that almost don’t seem to have been bleached but on the whole looks wise I don’t think they will win many beauty competitions lol.
GM’s just need proper preparation in my opinion to really get going and that’s in all grades but once they do they are as good as anything in my opinion.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwtqsx2m/BAEDCEEE-8-BA9-4-BC4-95-C4-2819-C667-A861.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXckY7sm)
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There's a really nice review on line by that guy who people send their bats to for prepping. I think he's in NZ and works out of a shed, but I can't find his YouTube channel right now. Anyone else got the link? He shows how to knock a 404 in properly and get it responding well. He takes off the factory scuff sheet as this stops you rounding off the edges properly
Cricketbatinfo does the best and most honest reviews of bats I've seen anywhere by miles. He's not selling them and has no reason to make outrageous claims like other people.
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My son has a Zelos 404. with obvious butterfly on the back, but none on the face - guessing that the bleaching took care of that?
Grains were still visible when new, but a few coats of oil, and a colour wise year later it looks no different to any other bat.
The only issue with it, is that the butterfly made the press of the face uneven. You can still feel 'waves' in the face, and despite thorough knocking in, there are some horizontal cracks in that area.
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@Marc28 Out of NZ? Haha, he wishes.
Ha ha. Must have been the accent that fooled me. Doesn't sound like Surrey...
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My son has a Zelos 404. with obvious butterfly on the back, but none on the face - guessing that the bleaching took care of that?
Grains were still visible when new, but a few coats of oil, and a colour wise year later it looks no different to any other bat.
The only issue with it, is that the butterfly made the press of the face uneven. You can still feel 'waves' in the face, and despite thorough knocking in, there are some horizontal cracks in that area.
Got any pictures of it?
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Here goes. You'll have to forgive the presentation, as our season has only recently finished :)
Having a closer look, the cracks on the edge are ball damage, but it did get a good knocking in. Will give me something to do before next season.
No face sheet used, but we put tape along the edges when we noticed the first crack.
(https://imgur.com/KmiT5lJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3nB7s5S.jpg)
Hard to get a good shot of the un-evenness of the pressing, but you can see there are a few high spots, and it was like this from new. You can feel it as you run your fingers along the face.
I'm putting this down to the butterfly being harder, and the press rides up over those bits. Still a nice bat and the lad loves it, but if I was looking at another bat and it had these waves in the face, I'd probably give it a miss.
(https://i.imgur.com/uLx4mfQ.jpg)
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Looks a beauty
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Man that Chrome and zelos looks very nice for 404. Mine has no visible grain at all but can see at certain angles. Will post pics once Mrs out of door for work
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What about this one...
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=47312.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=47312.0)
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That Siren is a steal. More grains than some ( so called) higher grades.
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Here are some pics. As you can see there are 5/6 grains but faded.
It is small size basically Harrow but big edges and full width. I prefer light bats but is not possible to get in this weight in SH unless you spend top dollar that I won't.
Weight is 2:7.5 with 2 grips. Me being 5'8" I am comfortable using Harrow and SH as long as it feels light in hands.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMhR1z2g/IMG-20200409-093639.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJZGcKL5)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgmdzZ1q/IMG-20200409-093825.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1WVqgtw)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4NSJsXhK/IMG-20200409-093749.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KRtX5SfF)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Prh6JDY9/IMG-20200409-093714.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjTLtJZf)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zvWKFxW5/IMG-20200409-093549.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FkrY9gDn)
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Looks nice! I'm sure a few coats of oil on the face would bring some grains out, but it may also darken a few of those other imperfections.
If you have to wreck the stickers to get the face sheet off, you might lose more than you gain looks wise.
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How possible is it to use a craft knife to cut the anti-scuff around the stickers and then remove the anti-scuff while keeping the stickers?
I would have thought that was fairly simple?
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I will keep scuff on. Oiled back of it last night now knocking it in. Bat feels good in hands that's it not bother about looks in this particular one.
It's easy to take scuff off without ruining stickers by cutting just below as you said then again apply new scuff after oil.
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It’s even easier just to heat and carefully peel back the sticker that’s over the scuff, it’s only 5cm x6cm or so and sticks back down fine if you do it right away.
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What about this one...
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=47312.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=47312.0[/url])
Just in case anyone wanted to know, this pings as well as anything I've had. Better than my Aldred which was supposed to be my number 1 and as good as my old Aussie GN I would say, absolute bargain!
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Just opening up an old thread to see how these bats performed?
Interested to know if anyone has a GM 404 bat and how long they took to open up. Currently have a Noir 404 that im netting with indoors which seems harder pressed.
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Attached is a Kaha 404 that i purchased from a local store few months ago. unbleached, 9 nice grains, few blemishes and a butterfly stain. weighs 2lb10oz, it is one of my match bats and is as good if not better than any other grade GM i have used before. and i have used 606, signature, 707, 808 and Original grades in the past. in fact this required the least playing in among all the GMs i have ever used and is an absolute belter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zG1PmPWg/1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhbxYRdr)
(https://i.postimg.cc/brs4JDNS/2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9f3SLmn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0QNBWMSX/3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mch5XGd1)
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Missed this topic, this little belter I sold a few years ago is definitely up there.
([url]http://i.imgur.com/gFqVd2xh.jpg[/url])
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Stunning looks. Did these bats take a while to open up?
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Willow is a natural product - some will perform better than others, etc etc. Most of the time, if you stick with a bat that has been manufactured well and with good materials, you'll end up with a bat that performs well. Sometimes the handles just need to end up breaking in, and the bat will feel better.
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Missed this topic, this little belter I sold a few years ago is definitely up there.
Used this for a season and a bit from memory, started my admiration for GM and I used them for a sumner of seasons after but 99% sure this was my first GM I ever used
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Used this for a season and a bit from memory, started my admiration for GM and I used them for a sumner of seasons after but 99% sure this was my first GM I ever used
Not bad for 90 quid. 404 and 606 (and more recently the Signature model) represent great value in my opinion.