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Title: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: SurreySam on September 30, 2020, 10:12:18 PM
Announced today :

https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1848675/ecb-announces-england-men-s-central-contracts-for-2020-21-season (https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1848675/ecb-announces-england-men-s-central-contracts-for-2020-21-season)
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: JTtaylor145 on October 01, 2020, 08:52:06 AM
Can't help but feel a bit sorry for Mark Wood when it comes to red ball cricket. He will definitely be needed during the next Ashes tour.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: SurreySam on October 01, 2020, 10:22:26 AM
Yes, that was the one which raised my eyebrows but maybe its just a fitness/money concern?

Good to see Bess & Jordan rewarded with incremental contracts.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: FattusCattus on October 01, 2020, 11:05:41 AM
Archers should be incremental to how fast he bowls in a test match!
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: Jimbo on October 01, 2020, 11:06:56 AM
Archers should be incremental to how fast he bowls in a test match!

Directly inverse to how much he adapts his bowling to the pitch and/or situation.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: cricketbadger on October 01, 2020, 12:25:37 PM
Can't help but feel a bit sorry for Mark Wood when it comes to red ball cricket. He will definitely be needed during the next Ashes tour.

4 tests in 2 years doesnt really warrant one. Would be a waste of a spot for someone more deserving and with a better fitness record.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: JTtaylor145 on October 01, 2020, 12:40:37 PM
4 tests in 2 years doesnt really warrant one. Would be a waste of a spot for someone more deserving and with a better fitness record.
Such as?
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: cricketbadger on October 01, 2020, 01:36:30 PM
Such as?

Any of the bowlers who have been picked instead.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: JTtaylor145 on October 01, 2020, 01:42:40 PM
It wasn't a criticism, was just interested in opinions  :)

I would rather see Wood on an incremental contract than Chris Jordan but it's just an opinion.

You are right about the fitness concerns. I just think Wood is a bit unlucky.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: Buzz on October 01, 2020, 02:12:15 PM
Billings unlucky not to get a deal.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: cricketbadger on October 01, 2020, 03:13:09 PM
It wasn't a criticism, was just interested in opinions  :)

I would rather see Wood on an incremental contract than Chris Jordan but it's just an opinion.

You are right about the fitness concerns. I just think Wood is a bit unlucky.

Yeh I never read it as criticism. What's the difference between incremental and a white ball one?  What is the reason behind an incremental contract?
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: alba caerulea on October 01, 2020, 04:32:42 PM
Archers should be incremental to how fast he bowls in a test match!

Maybe they should all be performance based.

Archer currently has a significantly better record than Broad or Anderson did after the same amount of Test Matches.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: six and out on October 01, 2020, 06:03:50 PM
The thing that stood out for me was that all our Spinners are on Incremental contracts, that really is a sign of the times.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: ScottParko on October 01, 2020, 08:16:07 PM
Billings not getting any sort of contract at all is a shame & Malan getting an incremental one is a shame too.

Two of our stronger performers this summer in white ball cricket, but clearly not concrete in the plans for the near future.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on October 01, 2020, 09:05:24 PM
Billings not getting any sort of contract at all is a shame & Malan getting an incremental one is a shame too.

Two of our stronger performers this summer in white ball cricket, but clearly not concrete in the plans for the near future.

Totally agree especially on Malan who has a superb T20 international record and I believe currently the worlds best t20 international batsmen based on rankings.
Billings has had a great summer and fingers crossed he can keep his place over the winter in whatever white ball cricket we play and keep his form going. Also a gun fielder and very very good keeper
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: FattusCattus on October 01, 2020, 09:54:46 PM
I'm not sure Malan was culled too quick from the test team - partnership breaking spin bowling too - however, probably no space for him in the top 6 now
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: shadowlight on October 01, 2020, 11:49:27 PM
Wow, nothing for Foakes either.  I am hoping all of this has to do with the short cricket season.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: Kulli on October 02, 2020, 05:18:39 AM
Wow, nothing for Foakes either.  I am hoping all of this has to do with the short cricket season.
Not sure you can really give a test contract to someone who isn’t played for 2 years tbh.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: six and out on October 02, 2020, 07:07:35 AM
If you look at it from the perspective of change then below are the contracts awarded last year -

Test Match

James Anderson (Lancashire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Rory Burns (Surrey), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Ben Stokes (Durham), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire).

ODI / T20

Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Joe Denly (Kent), Eoin Morgan (Middlesex), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).

Incremental

Tom Curran (Surrey), Jack Leach (Somerset)

So Foakes didn't have one and hasn't played.
Malan has mainly played T20 regularly so was only really going to get an incremental.
Wood had a White ball before so why increase it when he isn't really going to play more games as they manage him.
Curran moves into Denly's spot
Billings is probably unlucky not to get an incremental contract TBH
Crawley, Pope and Sibley all get Test contracts for the first time as they are the future. Plus Bairstow losing his frees up a contract.
Bess getting an incremental due to him being our 1st choice spinner all summer but not a Test contract because he's not the finished article yet.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: shadowlight on October 02, 2020, 04:05:18 PM
Not sure you can really give a test contract to someone who isn’t played for 2 years tbh.

I was thinking more in terms of the incremental contract as backup keeper.  I guess the current backup keeper is Pope.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: Kulli on October 02, 2020, 04:13:54 PM
I was thinking more in terms of the incremental contract as backup keeper.  I guess the current backup keeper is Pope.
He’s got a white ball contract, which is more 💰than an incremental one.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 02, 2020, 05:23:28 PM
Foakes is still second-choce keeper, central contract or no.
Title: Re: England central contracts 2020/2021
Post by: Manormanic on October 02, 2020, 06:24:03 PM
I'm not sure Malan was culled too quick from the test team - partnership breaking spin bowling too - however, probably no space for him in the top 6 now

I think he has been typecast as a batsman for hard pitches and short pitched bowling.  Could he have filled the same role as Joe Denly?  Certainly.  Will he make the squad for the next Ashes? I'd say if he had a decent season thats a probably too.