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Title: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 05:40:04 PM
Any ideas on setting up the field, to upset/lose batsmen's concentration, to an extent?
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: suraj on April 29, 2021, 05:57:49 PM
Fat chirpy bloke at short mid wicket?
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Jimbo on April 29, 2021, 06:08:43 PM
Stick a fielder in at a silly mid on and silly mid off then put a funny hat on both of them.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 06:33:03 PM
Fat chirpy bloke at short mid wicket?
How will he distract batsman?
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 06:34:52 PM
Stick a fielder in at a silly mid on and silly mid off then put a funny hat on both of them.
I was thinking the same but without funny hats, this might even distract umpires!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 07:03:03 PM
Fat chirpy bloke at short mid wicket?
I think I know where you're coming from.
This could make batsman play across the line, innit?
Fat chirpy bloke will be fielding at deep square leg, just to make sure he's in the right spot!
I always struggle those Fat.... guys
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 07:16:01 PM
Problem will be if it's only one! As I can't expect captain to field at deep square leg! Or even his brother, for the same reason, I must have at least 3 fat blokes to be able to fulfill this plan!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Chad on April 29, 2021, 07:19:07 PM
Tell them their bat's edges aren't 40mm. That'll upset them - trust me.


Jokes aside, why are you trying to disrupt the batsman's concentration with the field? There are things you can do I guess to change the rhythm up a bit, like slow things right down when they're scoring quickly, get the ball back to the bowler ASAP when they're dotting it up and get through the overs quickly, but things like changing the field is entirely dependent on the bowler executing a plan, and also on the type of batsman you're bowling to...
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Kai on April 29, 2021, 07:37:33 PM
Ask everyone to be dead silent and only whisper to each other. Keep staring at the batsman in a creepy manner every time he makes eye contact 😂
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 07:44:25 PM
Tell them their bat's edges aren't 40mm. That'll upset them - trust me.


Jokes aside, why are you trying to disrupt the batsman's concentration with the field? There are things you can do I guess to change the rhythm up a bit, like slow things right down when they're scoring quickly, get the ball back to the bowler ASAP when they're dotting it up and get through the overs quickly, but things like changing the field is entirely dependent on the bowler executing a plan, and also on the type of batsman you're bowling to...
Your first part of the post is bang on!
I'm sure that will distract batsmen!
40mm edges will do the trick! Trust you on that! 👍😀
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 07:49:55 PM
Tell them their bat's edges aren't 40mm. That'll upset them - trust me.


Jokes aside, why are you trying to disrupt the batsman's concentration with the field? There are things you can do I guess to change the rhythm up a bit, like slow things right down when they're scoring quickly, get the ball back to the bowler ASAP when they're dotting it up and get through the overs quickly, but things like changing the field is entirely dependent on the bowler executing a plan, and also on the type of batsman you're bowling to...
What approach to take when being hit for a 4 or a 6?
After a bad misfield?
After a drop catch?
Slow down? Or..
When is the "right time to have few words with batsman"? To annoy him.
If you know what I mean
I want to try different things to get many wickets this year!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 07:55:23 PM
Ask everyone to be dead silent and only whisper to each other. Keep staring at the batsman in a creepy manner every time he makes eye contact
My team on the field, is dead silent anyways
But I can work on my face expressions more, to show that I don't like his face....
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 08:23:56 PM
Batters on here, what would disturb/annoy you or break your concentration? If I was coming on to bowl, my offspin? Is it deliberately delaying etc.
I know this is your secret...
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: ppccopener on April 29, 2021, 08:50:28 PM
'Having a few words with a batsman' or changing the field, slowing down your delivery or the game probably is not going to make any difference to any batsman unless you are playing your cricket at muppet level.

If I were out I'd look at improving my skills rather than anything said on the field. I've never played against any decent bats it makes any difference to at all.

In fact it can have the opposite effect and you then get slapped everywhere.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 04:14:15 AM
'Having a few words with a batsman' or changing the field, slowing down your delivery or the game probably is not going to make any difference to any batsman unless you are playing your cricket at muppet level.

If I were out I'd look at improving my skills rather than anything said on the field. I've never played against any decent bats it makes any difference to at all.

In fact it can have the opposite effect and you then get slapped everywhere.
Definitely, going to work harder on my fitness etc, planned nets fit later today.
I just want to take batter out of his comfort zone before he faced a delivery from me! That's the plan! Make him a bit edgy!
Sledging, no,
but should be ready to grab any opportunity that arises, to "upset", batters!
But on the other hand, I don't want to make it look too obvious!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Hoover on April 30, 2021, 06:02:22 AM
You don’t need to say anything to the batsman. e.g. Leave mid wicket/ cover/ backward point vacant and suggest to you Captain/ bowler in an understated way that it would have to be a serious/ risky shot to penetrate that area. Test their ego. Michael Vaughan did it to Australia in 2005 by having a sweeper on the leg and off boundaries so a Martyn/ Hayden etc had to settle for 1 instead of 4. It worked without words.
If you have to speak suggest to a team mate that his grip or stance looks odd ( batsmen sometimes take things like that to heart). Sometimes it is a simple as that and no one gets angry. Just my experience.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 30, 2021, 06:07:03 AM
Loudly instruct one of your fielders to move 40mm to his left (or right). Follow this up with an equally loud "Trust me!"

Repeat until desired effect has been achieved.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 06:45:10 AM
You don’t need to say anything to the batsman. e.g. Leave mid wicket/ cover/ backward point vacant and suggest to you Captain/ bowler in an understated way that it would have to be a serious/ risky shot to penetrate that area. Test their ego. Michael Vaughan did it to Australia in 2005 by having a sweeper on the leg and off boundaries so a Martyn/ Hayden etc had to settle for 1 instead of 4. It worked without words.
If you have to speak suggest to a team mate that his grip or stance looks odd ( batsmen sometimes take things like that to heart). Sometimes it is a simple as that and no one gets angry. Just my experience.
Simply Excellent advice, thanks.
Normally I only have fielder deep straight mid wicket, to entice cross shots to square leg area.
Think I'll need to do that more often, to leave point etc vacant!
Yeah, v grip thing will make them think 😀😀!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 06:53:02 AM
Loudly instruct one of your fielders to move 40mm to his left (or right). Follow this up with an equally loud "Trust me!"

Repeat until desired effect has been achieved.
After every delivery, as well! 😎😀😀
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Jimbo on April 30, 2021, 08:17:32 AM
Alternatively, don't say anything unless you've got something clever or funny to say. It's immensely boring listening to variations on the clichés. The best 'sledging' is done to your own team.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 08:23:32 AM
Alternatively, don't say anything unless you've got something clever or funny to say. It's immensely boring listening to variations on the clichés. The best 'sledging' is done to your own team.
Exactly!
Guy backed off and hit me 4 backword square, teammate days, "what a dirty ball it was" 😎
Not bothering to realise it's in the middle of the over, building up pressure to your own bowler.
What cliche have you tried 🤔? I will stay away from them if they didn't work!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Jimbo on April 30, 2021, 08:29:05 AM
I try to avoid clichés, there's no fun in "one wicket brings two", etc.

One of the funniest and most effective bits of chat I've ever seen was one of our student lads who rolled up his sleeves at silly point and spent three overs alternately flexing and letting the batsmen know they had a "free front row seat to the gun show" despite him having noodles for arms. We were all decking ourselves laughing and the batsmen both missed straight ones.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 08:36:34 AM
I try to avoid clichés, there's no fun in "one wicket brings two", etc.

One of the funniest and most effective bits of chat I've ever seen was one of our student lads who rolled up his sleeves at silly point and spent three overs alternately flexing and letting the batsmen know they had a "free front row seat to the gun show" despite him having noodles for arms. We were all decking ourselves laughing and the batsmen both missed straight ones.
Hahaha
I feel, silly mid off and short leg are one of the best option! Any day any time!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 30, 2021, 09:22:50 AM
Sledging is for twats.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Jimbo on April 30, 2021, 09:27:24 AM
Sledging is for twats.

Sledging the other team, yep agreed. "Sledging" your own teammates is all good in my book, largely because that's actually banter and not thinly veiled, idiotic personal abuse.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 09:43:24 AM
Sledging the other team, yep agreed. "Sledging" your own teammates is all good in my book, largely because that's actually banter and not thinly veiled, idiotic personal abuse.
Ya Man!
Total agreement on this!
Don't your teammates know better than this?
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 09:45:50 AM
By the way I'm not against Sledging! Especially that's directed towards me!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 09:57:43 AM
I'm thinking of doing what hasn't been done before! I'll have net later today, will find out how good my offspin is atm and I'll share with you guys for your opinion.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: wilkie113 on April 30, 2021, 10:17:30 AM
If you are having to ask on here what sledges work, I wouldn't even bother, because you lack the intelligence to come up with something creative yourself.  ;) @AJ2014
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: t2ylo on April 30, 2021, 10:56:37 AM
Sledging is for twats.

Nice sledge  ;)
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
If you are having to ask on here what sledges work, I wouldn't even bother, because you lack the intelligence to come up with something creative yourself.  ;) @AJ2014
Don't take it too serious!
After all it's only Sledging! 👍
I'm finding my way in.
Our captain is very passive! You should know what that means 😎
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 11:16:44 AM
Nice sledge  ;)
I'm learning it quickly here!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 11:24:22 AM
Nice sledge  ;)
Hahaha, you felt like he's Sledging you.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: brokenbat on April 30, 2021, 02:03:01 PM
This is the best I’ve seen in a while:

https://youtu.be/CmI04Jj6Qtc
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Wozaboxa on April 30, 2021, 02:15:53 PM
I was going along great in a game hitting the ball nicely and one of the fielders asked "Batsmen, have you ever seen Pretty Woman with Richard Gere" I had to step away but it completely threw me and I was giggling for a good few minutes because it was just so random, it was only a season or two ago. Did the trick as it disrupted me for an over or two.


Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 02:38:25 PM
I was going along great in a game hitting the ball nicely and one of the fielders asked "Batsmen, have you ever seen Pretty Woman with Richard Gere" I had to step away but it completely threw me and I was giggling for a good few minutes because it was just so random, it was only a season or two ago. Did the trick as it disrupted me for an over or two.
Ideas flowing 😎
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on April 30, 2021, 02:40:25 PM
This is the best I’ve seen in a while:

https://youtu.be/CmI04Jj6Qtc
Remarkable really,
Don't think I'll get away with such a thing though 😉
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 05:40:33 AM
Found out one from 2nd XI,
"Batsman comes in to bat, call him by wrong name!"
This bound to have some kind of conversation and impact on the batsman! 👍
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: six and out on May 01, 2021, 06:05:17 AM
I was going along great in a game hitting the ball nicely and one of the fielders asked "Batsmen, have you ever seen Pretty Woman with Richard Gere" I had to step away but it completely threw me and I was giggling for a good few minutes because it was just so random, it was only a season or two ago. Did the trick as it disrupted me for an over or two.

These are often the best ones, the random things get the batsman thinking and break their concentration.

In the past we have got batsman involved in 'Top 10' banter , everything from Chocolate bars, Crisps, Cars to condiments! Just start it off amongst yourselves in the field loud enough for the batsman to hear, then drop in the question to him...... "come on bat you can settle this surely the Crunchie is above the Mars on the Top 10 Chocolate bars?" Or "bat what's your Top 10 ........"
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 06:23:46 AM
Like I said...
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Post by: 123* on May 01, 2021, 06:52:44 AM
These are often the best ones, the random things get the batsman thinking and break their concentration.

In the past we have got batsman involved in 'Top 10' banter , everything from Chocolate bars, Crisps, Cars to condiments! Just start it off amongst yourselves in the field loud enough for the batsman to hear, then drop in the question to him...... "come on bat you can settle this surely the Crunchie is above the Mars on the Top 10 Chocolate bars?" Or "bat what's your Top 10 ........"

Jesus Christ...
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 07:07:00 AM
These are often the best ones, the random things get the batsman thinking and break their concentration.

In the past we have got batsman involved in 'Top 10' banter , everything from Chocolate bars, Crisps, Cars to condiments! Just start it off amongst yourselves in the field loud enough for the batsman to hear, then drop in the question to him...... "come on bat you can settle this surely the Crunchie is above the Mars on the Top 10 Chocolate bars?" Or "bat what's your Top 10 ........"
Even sharing thought of all this, I'll definitely be dropped for the next game! Trust me 😎!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 07:11:32 AM
If you are having to ask on here what sledges work, I wouldn't even bother, because you lack the intelligence to come up with something creative yourself.  ;) @AJ2014
My 2 cents will be:
"I heard you like hitting 6s!"
Or
"I heard you hit 100 last week!"
Think I'm in learning process 🙂.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 07:41:24 AM
These are often the best ones, the random things get the batsman thinking and break their concentration.

In the past we have got batsman involved in 'Top 10' banter , everything from Chocolate bars, Crisps, Cars to condiments! Just start it off amongst yourselves in the field loud enough for the batsman to hear, then drop in the question to him...... "come on bat you can settle this surely the Crunchie is above the Mars on the Top 10 Chocolate bars?" Or "bat what's your Top 10 ........"
I wonder, man, I wonder...
How long did this process took?
Started with which batter and which batter was the victim?😎🤔
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 07:49:49 AM
Jesus Christ...

Exactly! When I read that I felt so glad I wasn't playing cricket today. Which is sad really.
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Post by: six and out on May 01, 2021, 07:58:06 AM
Exactly! When I read that I felt so glad I wasn't playing cricket today. Which is sad really.

As I said in the post in the past, anyway I really do think you need to wake up and smell the coffee, all that is is banter, it maybe crap, but that it nothing offensive or abusive which still massively goes on in the game today. And if you think it doesn't you are definitely mistaken.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 08:00:49 AM
it maybe crap

Absolutely no maybe about it!
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 08:02:50 AM
you need to wake up

No, I need to go to sleep. Permanently. To get away from this nonsense.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 08:05:55 AM
still massively goes on in the game today. And if you think it doesn't you are definitely mistaken.

When did I say it didn't?  Indecent exposure isn't an acceptable crime just because it isn't rape.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Jimbo on May 01, 2021, 08:35:19 AM
When did I say it didn't?  Indecent exposure isn't an acceptable crime just because it isn't rape.

Eh? Bit extreme comparing crap chat on a cricket pitch to sexual crimes mate.

I'm fully with you that abusive "sledging" is a complete stain on the recreational game but the banter, and yes some of it is dire, is a fun part of the day.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: ch1p on May 01, 2021, 09:01:08 AM
Seriously, we’re counting asking a batsman which chocolate bar is better as sledging these days? Wow.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: 123* on May 01, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
I think anyone who goes in to a game with rehearsed sledges should face a serious fine and a ban.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 09:40:10 AM
Seriously, we’re counting asking a batsman which chocolate bar is better as sledging these days? Wow.
😀😀
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
I think anyone who goes in to a game with rehearsed sledges should face a serious fine and a ban.
That's an impossible task! 🙂
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 09:42:44 AM
Eh? Bit extreme comparing crap chat on a cricket pitch to sexual crimes mate.

I'm fully with you that abusive "sledging" is a complete stain on the recreational game but the banter, and yes some of it is dire, is a fun part of the day.
Yep, just for fun sake
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 09:48:43 AM
Once I opened, guys in the slips started chatting, " he's not middled anything"  next ball was hit for 4, towards mid wicket. I said "that was the middle of my bat!"  this is fun, nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 01, 2021, 09:52:33 AM
Or
Fielders trying to confuse by saying " he's not sure where the ball pitched!" I said straight away "I middled it, man 😀
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Byo on May 01, 2021, 10:15:56 AM
I think anyone who goes in to a game with rehearsed sledges should face a serious fine and a ban.
Anyone that plans sledges and rehearses them is a total idiot. If that's the only plan you have to upset a batsman I suggest you are (No Swearing Please) at cricket and need to have a look at yourself.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: ppccopener on May 01, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
High five yourselves all round anyone lasting the course on this test of endurance over 4 pages
 :)
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Batoff on May 01, 2021, 11:14:48 AM
Well this thread is an absolute shower, isn't it.

My advice to the bloke who's had to ask for sledging tips online:
Shut the f*ck up and play the game in the right spirit.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 01:32:13 PM
Eh? Bit extreme comparing crap chat on a cricket pitch to sexual crimes mate.


I was only doing so in terms of the relativity. 
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 01:33:43 PM
I think anyone who goes in to a game with rehearsed sledges should face a serious fine and a ban.

Custodial sentence. But not the death penalty.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: NT50 on May 01, 2021, 07:00:54 PM
High five yourselves all round anyone lasting the course on this test of endurance over 4 pages
 :)

Just read all 4 and was about to comment similar. I think I now have less brain cells than I did when I started
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 01, 2021, 11:07:45 PM
Just read all 4 and was about to comment similar. I think I now have less brain cells than I did when I started

That will help, I think.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 02, 2021, 05:58:31 AM
Going into bat, getting to the crease, young lad "this bat hasn't seen action!" me "I used it last week" lad "best with it, score many with it" me, same to you".
Same happened before, but this time I felt good as it was a lad ❤️😀
He's a reasonable leggie who can bat a bit,he'll get better with more strength with the age.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 02, 2021, 06:50:20 AM
Just read all 4 and was about to comment similar. I think I now have less brain cells than I did when I started
Count down has started for you, NT!
Cricket is not only looking at bat grains etc, it's how it goes in real time!
In this thread we're discussing our/oppos behaviour in the field, nothing more or less.
I only talk while bowling, for the field setting, appeals, appreciate fielders etc.
Don't talk to the batters!
I know I'll take wickets this year, and a lot of them, as I'm bowling well now, without any words been exchanged!

Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 02, 2021, 06:53:28 AM
Just to give you an example,
Yesterday were like 18-3, their keeper kept saying, "there are demons in the pitch", I was told of that when when their keeper came to bat. As I was fielding close to the bat, I started repeating the same to him.
Is there anything wrong with this?
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 02, 2021, 07:00:05 AM
And to add to field setting,
Yesterday, I was playing for the 2nd, new captain, with know all!
Batters are well set and taking any opportunity to hit hard.
Guys hits in the air over to deep mid off, to my horror, there is no long off, ball falls short of boundary and goes for a 4!
That's upsetting, for sure! In 3s I always deep long and deep long on, when I know they are going going after me!
If there was a long off, it was a sitter!
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 02, 2021, 07:10:59 AM

Is there anything wrong with this?

Yes.
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 02, 2021, 07:20:18 AM
And yes, it feels good when opposition and umpire say "well bowled!"
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 02, 2021, 07:27:24 AM
And yes, it feels good when opposition and umpire say "well bowled!"

 ;)
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: SouthpawMark on May 02, 2021, 08:27:47 AM
Absolutely despise sledging. Only ever done it once, bored when we were playing a timed match, and the oppo had zero intention of chasing the runs.

I was bowling my SLA filth, and the opener hadn’t even attempted to play a shot in anger. After his latest forward defensive I said “crikey, more blocks than Legoland”. It obviously irked him as the very next ball he charged down the wicket, missed it and was stumped. Cue much merriment.

Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 02, 2021, 09:22:22 AM
Hahaha, Mark!
Don't think you bowl enough, 😀😀
Title: Re: Setting up the field...
Post by: AJ2014 on May 03, 2021, 10:00:55 AM
"Garfield, play a shot, man!"
Next ball, big looming shot came and he was bowled!
That was yesterday's last delivery...