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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Purist90 on January 13, 2022, 05:07:37 PM
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Hi all,
My question is how many layers of binding can be wrapped around a handle to fatten it up?
I like the idea of adding binding to thicken a handle as less weight than grips but just testing the water if 2,3 or more layers of binding over top of binding is a good idea or not?
Thanks
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Hi all,
My question is how many layers of binding can be wrapped around a handle to fatten it up?
I like the idea of adding binding to thicken a handle as less weight than grips but just testing the water if 2,3 or more layers of binding over top of binding is a good idea or not?
Thanks
From memory I think an extra layer is about 0.5 to 1oz? That seems a fair whack of weight to add to the handle so presumably would change the balance up a lot.
How thin is the handle that you're thinking about 3 layers of binding?
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The bat is Salix pod, came with chevron grip.
I’m thinking of defo 1 later if binding and a spiral grip over the top. Or add the chevron then spiral grip.
But would 2 layers binding be better than 2 grips.
The bat just feels a tad heavier than I hoped (2lb 9.5)
So hoping thicker handle and adding some weight on the handle end will make it feel that ounce or so lighter.
Thanks for helping me
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Have you thought about trying some medical strapping tape round the handle first? Much easier to apply and then remove and adjust if you want to play about with it.
I use it to thicken up skinny handles and it works a treat.
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Ah yes, forgot about that one.
An extra layer of binding worked well on another bat. I always thought the twine was lighter than any double grip combo, but you’ve proved me wrong.
It’s just the annoying nobbley bit at the end of the Salix handle that’s bothering me too.
So want to pad out so I can put my top hand at the very top of the handle.
Plus the hope for the lighter pickup.
Any other tips on how to trick the mind and eyes into losing bat weight?
I’ve left it in the house when the heating is on and that’s helped a bit.
New bat so I imagined the oil/wax will settle in soon.
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Potentially some lead golf handle tape near the top of the bat so it changes the balance a little more?
Nuclear option is paying for weight reduction and rebalance.
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Nah it’s only a niggley half ounce. I think the mix of strapping and 2 grips will be fine.
It’s only potential horizontal shots that might cause slight discomfort but I’ll get used to it with lots of practice I’m sure. Every bat is a little bit quirky at first. Will look up the golf tape though, not heard that one.
Cheers Jimbo.
What are you looking forward to batting with do you think this season?
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No worries mate, just relaying advice I've been given in the past!
I've got far too many bats and they're all far too nice for someone of my very limited ability!
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In all honesty adding a counterweight, like lead tape does improve the pickup when your bat is cocked. I did this on a low density H4L bat that was massive, exceed the bat gauge! But I thought it was a bit toe heavy. I got 2 tons after I addes the lead tape, (got the tons in friendlies) but haven't had a 50 since I sold it!
Might be about my lack of netting but try things out and get what you feel is a great pickup! May mean getting another bat, but ultimately grade and weight doesnt really matter, you are using it and you need something that feels like an extension to your body that doesn't impact the way you would play shots..
Some may think this is waffle but just my opinion.
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I have two different thicknesses of binding. Thin one adds 3/4 of an oz, thicker one 1 1/4oz. Obviously i suppose this would fluctuate slightly depending on the thickness of the handle. My chevron grips weigh 1 3/4oz roughly.
I prefer double binding as think 2 grips feels a little spongy, but that's just my preference.
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Ha ha, perhaps that bat gauge terminator was the couple of mm between tons and ducks Churchy?
I blame the bat gauge too lol.
I feel the same as you about pickiness though mate. Bats aren’t cheap and we work hard for them. You want things to be 2nd nature. And we’ve all got that favourite we had years ago before it broke to compare everything too.
Probably doesn’t help that I’ve just got used to another new lightweight bat I’ve been nurturing since Autumn.
Even though it’s preprepared by Salix I think I’ll knock it in for a good 2-3 hours. (Seam marks when tapped up)
Which can help reduce a bit of weight too. I think 2 grips as I planned and it’s a keeper for sure.
I have a GM icon 2,7 on the way too as a net bat. So I’ll have 2,7 2,8 2,9 to choose from (couldn’t resist a Salix Black Friday deal) and hoping to play very regularly forever more now I’m having a career change. Time to think about me a lot more in life.
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Ha ha, perhaps that bat gauge terminator was the couple of mm between tons and ducks Churchy?
I blame the bat gauge too lol.
I feel the same as you about pickiness though mate. Bats aren’t cheap and we work hard for them. You want things to be 2nd nature. And we’ve all got that favourite we had years ago before it broke to compare everything too.
Probably doesn’t help that I’ve just got used to another new lightweight bat I’ve been nurturing since Autumn.
Even though it’s preprepared by Salix I think I’ll knock it in for a good 2-3 hours. (Seam marks when tapped up)
Which can help reduce a bit of weight too. I think 2 grips as I planned and it’s a keeper for sure.
I have a GM icon 2,7 on the way too as a net bat. So I’ll have 2,7 2,8 2,9 to choose from (couldn’t resist a Salix Black Friday deal) and hoping to play very regularly forever more now I’m having a career change. Time to think about me a lot more in life.
Benefits of making your own bats......here is one I just finished and first glimps of 2022 stickers..
(https://i.ibb.co/r0N9xKj/20220113-201812.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pw5qf67)
(https://i.ibb.co/j5jB6WN/20220113-201823.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8BQTKdC)
(https://i.ibb.co/ByXs9VJ/20220113-201751.jpg) (https://ibb.co/486NHZL)
(https://i.ibb.co/XZG3YcX/20220113-201817.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z6bY2qd)
(https://i.ibb.co/wcBNhm1/20220113-201820.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TWYBM35)
(https://i.ibb.co/7KpTG4J/20220113-201801.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M71jR6D)
2lbs 9oz
Pick up is dreamy
I'll start a thread for the ones I'm doing at some point...
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Those stickers have come on a long way @Churchy1989 absolutely lovely stuff!
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Yeah looking pretty good Churchy
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Nah it’s only a niggley half ounce.
I don't mean this to come across rude but I do have to chuckle at statements like this.
0.5oz (14g) in a 2lb 9.5 bat = 1%
But I totally understand handles not feeling quite right in the hands, and will tinker with tape under the grip to get if feeling just right.
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I don't mean this to come across rude but I do have to chuckle at statements like this.
0.5oz (14g) in a 2lb 9.5 bat = 1%
But I totally understand handles not feeling quite right in the hands, and will tinker with tape under the grip to get if feeling just right.
100% in our heads when it's that little weight 😂 but then I reckon at least 50% of batting is in your head too!
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I don't mean this to come across rude but I do have to chuckle at statements like this.
0.5oz (14g) in a 2lb 9.5 bat = 1%
But I totally understand handles not feeling quite right in the hands, and will tinker with tape under the grip to get if feeling just right.
Agreed. Weighing a bat straight away is not a good thing. When people come into the workshop, they often don't guess the weights of bats and will pick one up and say something like 'this feels lovely', then when they find out it's an oz or two heavier than their prefered dead weight, will soon look at something else.
I did a post on Instagram this week about handle thickness and how it affects the dead weight. I might start a thread on this, but it's similar to the binding post i made in this thread. You can use thinner thread, lighter grips, use tape instead etc etc all to hit scale weight. But imo the bat won't feel as good in the hands as one which is an oz or so heavier, but which has that weight in or near the hands.
Adding another grip will help the balance/pick up, but surely then add weight and cause further issues with cuts and pulls, if this is your concern?
If half an oz is causing issues on back foot shots, I'd. Keep the bat as is and do some bicep curls! 😂 That said, if it doesn't feel right to you and you can't get away from this, then it doesn't feel right. All points to buying another bat!
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I agree that half an ounce is negligible. But I wanted this bat to be 2,8 to match another match bat of mine.
2,9 feeling I couldve cope with. But nearing 2,10 and feeling a bit more (unlike my old bat) after playing in for an hour I had to hit the scales to check my options. So my tolerance was pushed over 1.5 ounces but I thought if I lose the half it’ll be more in my comfort zone and only a negligible ounce rather than 2.
I dont think the mix of chevron grip and toe protector helps out my allergy to bottom heavy feeling bats. I have a 6ft 4 mate who can really bowl well above the average club team mate I’m used to. And in the past a bat being just that tad heavy has got me in trouble facing him. So a weary lesson learnt. I’m confident a thicker handle in whichever grip/tape combo I experiment with will solve the balance and pickup niggle. Also just playing with it everyday I’ve got very used to it now so looking forward to a new grip to arrive soon to make the difference. And due to illness I have realised I’ve lost size so bicep curls are actually needed too! 😂
I very much appreciate all the suggestions guys and will refer back to them forever more 👍
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Could you remove the toe guard and replace with varnish or shoe goo to improve feel slightly too?
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Yes I thought I’d give it a season with it on and wait until it starts falling off. I think the thicker grip or tape will make the bat too heavy which is what I prefer. So the blade will feel like a wand. The bat itself is a very well balanced bat. It just needs a thicker handle.
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*top heavy
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I have two different thicknesses of binding. Thin one adds 3/4 of an oz, thicker one 1 1/4oz. Obviously i suppose this would fluctuate slightly depending on the thickness of the handle. My chevron grips weigh 1 3/4oz roughly.
I prefer double binding as think 2 grips feels a little spongy, but that's just my preference.
This is exactly how I found this thread. I want to thicken the handle, but hate more than one grip and so am thinking about adding an extra layer of binding. Anyone got any recommendations on how to do this?
Or, as a test, if I added medical tape, does it have the same feel as another grip? Ie. slightly spongey and probably not for me.
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Adding binding isn't difficult, just need to buy some twine and glue it around the existing binding making sure it's tied off correctly. Better to do this on a lathe, but you can do it by hand. Or take it tl any batmaker or repairer and they should be able to do it. Tape will dk a very similar job.
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Tape is similar but I found it feels a bit spongier compared to rebinding. Definitely not as much so as extra grips so worth a go as a roll of tape is cheap as chips.