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Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: adb club cricketer on June 02, 2022, 02:05:53 AM

Title: C&D helmets
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 02, 2022, 02:05:53 AM
Just saw C&D helmets on pdc, naming has albion on them. Is this albion making a comeback? Anybody has seen these in person?
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: billyb on June 02, 2022, 03:07:43 AM
Very glad there is competition again!
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 02, 2022, 03:29:39 AM
Yes, really excited if this is Albion coming back with the new standards compliance. Also the description says rounder helmet, so would benefit those of us who struggled with the almost all oval shaped helmets currently in market.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: 19reading87 on June 02, 2022, 08:52:12 AM
I kind of like the design…
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: edge on June 06, 2022, 07:42:24 AM
Some kind of link might be helpful...
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Post by: Neon Cricket on June 06, 2022, 08:07:55 AM
https://www.prodirectcricket.com/lists/mens-cricket-helmets.aspx?brand=cdsports (https://www.prodirectcricket.com/lists/mens-cricket-helmets.aspx?brand=cdsports)

Looks to be, cloth covered crown too!
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: edge on June 06, 2022, 08:26:53 AM
Cheers Adam. Can see the base model being very popular at that price!
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: mvclayton on June 08, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
Just to give some context I hate wearing a helmet even though I know I should, the old Albion ones were the only type I could tolerate. I bought a very expensive Masuri a couple of years ago and I've hardly used it as I just can't get it to feel comfortable.

When I saw this topic I went straight on PDS and bought one of the lower end ones, it arrived yesterday and it's excellent. It does seem more round than oval and comes with a huge range of adjustable padding. I batted in it last night for a while, the grille seems wide and I didn't lose sight of the ball which I have found on other makes. It's very light and crucially really well ventilated.  Came with a cloth bag for storage too which considering the price point I thought was a nice extra touch.

Very pleased they are back in the market. Thanks to whoever posted this in the first place.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 08, 2022, 03:13:36 PM
Just to give some context I hate wearing a helmet even though I know I should, the old Albion ones were the only type I could tolerate. I bought a very expensive Masuri a couple of years ago and I've hardly used it as I just can't get it to feel comfortable.

When I saw this topic I went straight on PDS and bought one of the lower end ones, it arrived yesterday and it's excellent. It does seem more round than oval and comes with a huge range of adjustable padding. I batted in it last night for a while, the grille seems wide and I didn't lose sight of the ball which I have found on other makes. It's very light and crucially really well ventilated.  Came with a cloth bag for storage too which considering the price point I thought was a nice extra touch.

Very pleased they are back in the market. Thanks to whoever posted this in the first place.

Good to know it worked out. Yea, I had same issue, none of the modern helmets fit my rounder head, good to know C&D are making the Albion range which has round shape (the balance range has the oval shape FYI). Also the Albion looks really good and the gap between grill and top seems slightly larger than the Shreys at least in the pics, so should help visibility and a good thing as long as the safety standards are met.

If possible, can you weigh the helmet and let me know along with the size you got.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: LockieEP on June 09, 2022, 12:25:56 PM
Ooh, interesting. Annoyingly bought a new GN helmet (its ok) at start of year but would be keen to look at one of these options for the more rounded headed ones like me. Plus not so keen on cloth covered as tend to find they snag on something  - thank you
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: mvclayton on June 09, 2022, 02:29:41 PM
Good to know it worked out. Yea, I had same issue, none of the modern helmets fit my rounder head, good to know C&D are making the Albion range which has round shape (the balance range has the oval shape FYI). Also the Albion looks really good and the gap between grill and top seems slightly larger than the Shreys at least in the pics, so should help visibility and a good thing as long as the safety standards are met.

If possible, can you weigh the helmet and let me know along with the size you got.

I've only got the little scales so it won't fit I'm afraid, I can say it is significantly lighter than the Masuri.

The gap in the grill certainly seems wider, not sure if it's a manufacturing trick or not because the gap is still smaller than a ball but either way I like it.

I got the standard adult size but I usually get a large in Masuri and had no issues with the fit at all.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 09, 2022, 03:24:49 PM
Ok, thanks for the info. The price is also very attractive, you can get the titanium one for same price as steel helmet in Masuri/Shrey.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: KettonJake on June 09, 2022, 03:28:55 PM
https://www.cndsports.com/home/ (https://www.cndsports.com/home/)
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: billyb on June 10, 2022, 02:28:37 AM
Where is our helmet expert when we need him? @Ayrtek Cricket , what's the verdict?
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Post by: Jaffa on June 14, 2022, 10:00:36 AM
The Balance helmet looks like the old '98 which is a good thing. If I feel like a new helmet I can try that. If I don't then it looks like I can use the padding of the Balance on my '98.
https://www.cndsports.com/balance-cricket-helmet/ (https://www.cndsports.com/balance-cricket-helmet/)
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: mo_town on June 14, 2022, 10:13:44 AM
Why dont they make helmets for slightly smaller heads? Its just one size for 58-62 cms. I remember buying an Albion ages back which was supposed to be 58-62 but it felt so big, I had to eventually give it away.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on June 16, 2022, 08:55:47 AM
Just catching up on this thread as have had a manic few weeks with the Tests starting, good to see them back in the market and interesting that they are using their C&D name rather than Albion as the headline brand.

Helmet wise it looks like they have updated the previous mould/style to make it compliant and offered a cloth covering option too thats always been a popular request. Ear pads make it look a bit cumbersome IMO and could do with a re-shape but at the price points offered they'll scoop up some of the market currently dominated by Masuri/Shrey. 
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: cobweb1510 on July 05, 2022, 07:14:27 PM
My son needed a new helmet last year. Turns out we were gifted one (an Albion by coincidence) that he likes- but I was really confused how to actually buy a helmet.

Cricket shops seem to all carry very limited ranges- especially for juniors. Buying online seems to be a total lottery as to whether it will fit/feel comfy etc.

How do people decide which helmet to buy when it's so hard to try a number of different ones on (without driving around all day)
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: billyb on February 27, 2023, 08:41:38 PM
SS TON has just released an 'Albion' helmet on their Instagram.

Either a deal has been signed or that is an extreme example of copyright infringement. 😮
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: thegowerwaft on February 27, 2023, 09:15:34 PM
My son needed a new helmet last year. Turns out we were gifted one (an Albion by coincidence) that he likes- but I was really confused how to actually buy a helmet.

Cricket shops seem to all carry very limited ranges- especially for juniors. Buying online seems to be a total lottery as to whether it will fit/feel comfy etc.

How do people decide which helmet to buy when it's so hard to try a number of different ones on (without driving around all day)

For a youngster, I would always try to go to a shop. Different brands 'fits' seem to all come up different.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: thegowerwaft on February 27, 2023, 09:17:22 PM
SS TON has just released an 'Albion' helmet on their Instagram.

Either a deal has been signed or that is an extreme example of copyright infringement. 😮

If it isn't a deal, that's naughty.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on February 27, 2023, 11:15:16 PM
I did ask if it was a colab on their Instagram page but I strongly suspect they have simply copied it and then had the audacity to use the name too. Mind you Albion aren’t actually in the cricket market as C&D was bought by a previous Aero employee who has resurrected the brand with the aforementioned helmets.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: thrill_err on February 28, 2023, 02:43:12 AM
They are selling an albion and an albion-Z; Why would they copy the albion-z ? Quite likely a partnership.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: Jaffa on February 28, 2023, 08:16:49 AM
Is this similar to the Shrey bringing out what looked like copies of the older Masuri helmets?
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: Neon Cricket on February 28, 2023, 08:45:22 AM
Is this similar to the Shrey bringing out what looked like copies of the older Masuri helmets?

Were Shrey not the Indian manufacturer for Masuri? Might understand it all wrong but pretty sure when Masuri switched production away from India, Shrey went ahead on their own instead.

As for the SS/Albion lids, it'd make good business for Albion to strike a deal with SS so I suspect that'll be what's happened, but if they haven't then it is pretty darn cheeky!

Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on February 28, 2023, 03:08:28 PM
Were Shrey not the Indian manufacturer for Masuri? Might understand it all wrong but pretty sure when Masuri switched production away from India, Shrey went ahead on their own instead.

As for the SS/Albion lids, it'd make good business for Albion to strike a deal with SS so I suspect that'll be what's happened, but if they haven't then it is pretty darn cheeky!

Correct, Shrey set up their own brand to utilise the existing tooling left vacant by Masuri.

Masuri moved production to the Uk as they needed to go back to the drawing board to develop a new helmet to meet the ball/peak peentration test. Albion at the time with their club mk2 were failing at 30mph which is where the demise of them as a brand happened as they didnt come up with a new design that ever made it to market.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 28, 2023, 09:24:19 PM
They are selling an albion and an albion-Z; Why would they copy the albion-z ? Quite likely a partnership.
If albion are no longer in the cricket market, not sure if there can be copyright infringement. Plus SS have named the albion as sub-model name, the helmet is still SS ton helmet. Not sure if albion is even existing to file a complaint, but they wouldn't be aware or even care I guess. I was more hoping SS ton or someone would get in partnership with Albion to bring the entire range back. At least we have C&D now, so that is good option.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: avkrish on March 01, 2023, 04:15:53 AM
Just had a look at the SS website, they are saying "Marketed by SS company" in the listings for the Albion range but for their regular range, this wording is absent. So it could be a collaboration?

https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-z-cricket-helmet.html (https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-z-cricket-helmet.html)
https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-cricket-helmet.html (https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-cricket-helmet.html)
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: adb club cricketer on March 01, 2023, 05:08:27 AM
Just had a look at the SS website, they are saying "Marketed by SS company" in the listings for the Albion range but for their regular range, this wording is absent. So it could be a collaboration?

https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-z-cricket-helmet.html (https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-z-cricket-helmet.html)
https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-cricket-helmet.html (https://www.sstoncricket.com/all-products/helmets/ss-albion-cricket-helmet.html)

That sounds like a collaboration.
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: edge on March 01, 2023, 07:22:10 AM
Amazed at the 'surely they wouldn't blatantly infringe other's IP' when it's SS being talked about!
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Post by: Jimbo on March 01, 2023, 07:39:08 AM
Was it them who just copied a pair of Payntr shoes?
Title: Re: C&D helmets
Post by: thrill_err on March 01, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
Amazed at the 'surely they wouldn't blatantly infringe other's IP' when it's SS being talked about!

Not defending SS, but the name "albion" really has no marketable value. I'm guessing this was an easy way to get a BS rated helmet out to market.

SG has also released a new Aerotuff helmet which at first glance looks like a rebadged Forma.
https://shop.teamsg.in/product/sg-aerotuff-cricket-helmet-with-titanium-grill/