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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: deanoknight on August 16, 2022, 11:49:23 AM
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So yeah that happened.... He smashed 200 odd not, obviously he's playing well below his standard. Fortunately he didn't need to bowl. His team shrewton are likely to go up otherwise the teams were pretty well matched. Felt a bit for are 17 year old bowler he went for over 100 in 8 overs, just wanted to get people's opinions on this, and what Ricki Clarke himself is getting out of it. The only real issue I have is having a 120 mile round trip knowing you'll more than likely be smashed by a ex county pro.
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Didn't really like it when he did this earlier this season either. No issue with him playing for his local club, good on him for getting stuck into club life beyond playing, but it does feel a bit unnecessary racking up double tons.
I know the counter is that he doesn't do it every week and that it's an experience to play against an ex-pro but it's never much fun chasing leather all day and then trying to chase a score that is miles out of reach.
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As far as your game goes you would have to question why a 17 year old bowled that many overs even if most of the runs were scored towards the end your captain should of known what was likely to come and pulled him off after 5.
In those situations you put anyone on to bowl apart from the youngster-so I would be asking what the thinking was there.
Personally when I was younger and playing half decent the pros I played against helped you learn something. Grant flower and Ali stair Campbell both got chanceless tons in the same game and were like machines, Alex Tudor had lots of time for us and is a super bloke.
The only one I would not want to repeat is facing Carlos Remy with a new ball as I did years ago. Very very quick and whilst I knew the helmet would do it’s job I thought I might get hit.
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So yeah that happened.... He smashed 200 odd not, obviously he's playing well below his standard. Fortunately he didn't need to bowl. His team shrewton are likely to go up otherwise the teams were pretty well matched. Felt a bit for are 17 year old bowler he went for over 100 in 8 overs, just wanted to get people's opinions on this, and what Ricki Clarke himself is getting out of it. The only real issue I have is having a 120 mile round trip knowing you'll more than likely be smashed by a ex county pro.
I think his aim is to get the 1s promoted so that they get better cricket and maybe attract other cricketers from nearby clubs who want to play a better standard. Does it really warrant him scoring 200s and is that an ethical thing for an ex-pro to do is another question. There was a post in the Your Season 2022 thread where Aussie BBL start Jack Weathereld scored 170 odd playing in the premier league. At that level, its fair enough. But ex-pro playing in County Division 2 and doing that just seems wrong to me.
@deanoknight I remember playing against Steep a few years back. One thing I remember is that the location matched the name of the club! :D
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I think his aim is to get the 1s promoted so that they get better cricket and maybe attract other cricketers from nearby clubs who want to play a better standard. Does it really warrant him scoring 200s and is that an ethical thing for an ex-pro to do is another question. There was a post in the Your Season 2022 thread where Aussie BBL start Jack Weathereld scored 170 odd playing in the premier league. At that level, its fair enough. But ex-pro playing in County Division 2 and doing that just seems wrong to me.
@deanoknight I remember playing against Steep a few years back. One thing I remember is that the location matched the name of the club! :D
Oh interesting! Who do you play for?
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I played against Rikki earlier in the year. He hits the ball so hard. I faced his bowling and felt relatively comfortable. But his batting totally destroyed us.
As for him playing, he is playing with some mates and full filing a promise he made to the club.
On a separate note, his cricket academy is amazing. He has done wonders for my son's game.
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Oh interesting! Who do you play for?
I used to play for Bournemouth CC.
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As for him playing, he is playing with some mates and full filing a promise he made to the club.
Which is fair...but still dont think it is ok to score 200s against County Div 2 sides.
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It's only fair to mention that he seemed a decent bloke, wasn't at all arrogant. I get the double tons are a bit much. However it would look worse if he retired after 100
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You'd imagine he is good enough to be able to knock it about and let others take strike once he's got the ton up, rather than batter a double ton largely in boundaries. That's essentially what the ex-Scotland international in our league has done all season.
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You'd imagine he is good enough to be able to knock it about and let others take strike once he's got the ton up, rather than batter a double ton largely in boundaries. That's essentially what the ex-Scotland international in our league has done all season.
I'd say he was farming the strike rather than letting the other batsman have a go.
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I'd say he was farming the strike rather than letting the other batsman have a go.
As much as others have outlined positive motivations for what he's doing, it does all smack a bit of him enjoying being the big fish in a small pond...
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I wonder if Surrey made a phone-call. Were down to 11 registered players last week.
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It's only fair to mention that he seemed a decent bloke, wasn't at all arrogant. I get the double tons are a bit much. However it would look worse if he retired after 100
Doesn’t need to retire but I’m sure he could of walked past one or picked out a fielder if he felt his team had enough.
Wetherald banged 270 out of 512 where oppos weee bowled out for 179 I saw.
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I'd say he was farming the strike rather than letting the other batsman have a go.
This is what I don't like about it. I actually love the fact he's gone back to club cricket to get stuck in and help out etc....
But he is more than capable of picking out a fielder, walking past one or even just giving the strike away if he really doesn't want to get out.
I am interested to know the times he gets lower scores is he trying to blaze it the ground or genuinely being got out.
The Wetherald situation is completely different as he's a paid cricketer in the Premier league with probably other paid cricketers on the park too.
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I’ve followed this for a while and really don’t see the issue.
He’s not a paid player playing down
He’s a bloke who’s rocked up at his local club and wants to help them grow and succeed, he’s just happens to be above the level
Getting him out would be quite the scalp - so enjoy it bowlers who have!
As for the 200s yeah it’s excessive but he showing the level some of these lads are aspiring to. He probably helping with coaching and around the place and the opposition bowlers are probably thinking about ways to get him out. Everyone is trying to get better
He’ll be up a division next year I’m sure so he will play against better people so these 200s might disappear. Then he’ll get grief for being a “washed up pro”
Bloke can’t win. We should encourage ex pros going back to the club game, giving back and raising the level of the game.
The more the better!
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Opposition bowlers won't be thinking about how to get him out, they'll be marking that week in the calendar as one for a weekend away with the mrs!
Ex international player one year retired smacking double hundreds off kids in 6th tier amateur cricket, what a waste of everyone involved's time.
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What should he do then? What is the acceptable behaviour of an ex-international cricketer?
Give up the game?
Go charge 600 a week to a premier league team?
Score 100 and then shoulder arms?
I’m open to suggestions 😃
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Get his 100 however he likes and then use his talent and experience to constantly rotate strike when he gets it without demolishing opposition attacks.
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But he got 0 the week before, so how good is that bowler feeling! If he's playing, what's wrong with him playing properly and trying to win? He's scored 4 league tons and in the other games got less than 40.
We all play against people that are playing well below their ability and smash loads of runs or take wickets for fun. Yes he could go and play Premier league somewhere but if this is his local club and is happy to play for them, nothing wrong with it.
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What should he do then? What is the acceptable behaviour of an ex-international cricketer?
Give up the game?
Go charge 600 a week to a premier league team?
Score 100 and then shoulder arms?
I’m open to suggestions 😃
Carry on playing professional cricket.
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What should he do then? What is the acceptable behaviour of an ex-international cricketer?
Give up the game?
Go charge 600 a week to a premier league team?
Score 100 and then shoulder arms?
I’m open to suggestions 😃
Not too fussed what he gets up to, just think it should be something that doesn't involve spoiling amateur cricketers fun!
Not sure he's actually doing Shrewton many favours either - 15th and 12th the previous two seasons, insert Rikki Clarke with nearly 1200 runs at over 90 and they're 3rd. How far can he drag them up the leagues before the rest of their players start to really struggle? Playing above your level is a lot less fun than playing below it haha.
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Had Ricki Clark and Monty Penesar turn out for Bedhampton CC 150th anniversary a couple of weeks ago. I thought Monty looked better with the bat than Ricki :)
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Carry on playing professional cricket.
Quite hard to carry in if there isn't a county willing to pay you. Plus he has a young family.
I have seen Rikki a few times over the last year as he is coaching my son, and he is a really nice guy. He wants to play his cricket so let him get on with it.
We have a former pro at Cranleigh (as well as Pope and Tom Lawes) he wants to play cricket just let them play.
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Quite hard to carry in if there isn't a county willing to pay you. Plus he has a young family.
I have seen Rikki a few times over the last year as he is coaching my son, and he is a really nice guy. He wants to play his cricket so let him get on with it.
We have a former pro at Cranleigh (as well as Pope and Tom Lawes) he wants to play cricket just let them play.
Surrey would have given him another contract. He chose to retire.
The South African opener Erwee has prepared for this (untalked about?) Test series by playing for Weybridge in the Surrey Championship. (Occasionally opening with Ben Curran.)
I don't think anyone is saying professionals shouldn't ever play in club cricket.
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Think the main difference is playing Premier League cricket against other pros, ex pros, overseas, minor counties cricketers and talent local players. Than playing in Division 6 against 3rd teams...
Rikki Clarke isn't the only one doing it: https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/paballo-mogoera-595654 (https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/paballo-mogoera-595654)
This chap is playing Div 6 in a different part of the country... he even turned out in Div 9 for the 2nd team when the 1s had a bye week.
Averaging a casual 120.80 with the bat (1208 runs in 17 hits including 6 hundreds) and 13.06 (51 wickets) with the ball.
And I have less of a problem with Rikki doing it as it sounds as though he is local and looking to give back to the club rather than a paid mercenary who is about for one season.
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Think the main difference is playing Premier League cricket against other pros, ex pros, overseas, minor counties cricketers and talent local players. Than playing in Division 6 against 3rd teams...
Rikki Clarke isn't the only one doing it: https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/paballo-mogoera-595654 (https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/paballo-mogoera-595654)
This chap is playing Div 6 in a different part of the country... he even turned out in Div 9 for the 2nd team when the 1s had a bye week.
Averaging a casual 120.80 with the bat (1208 runs in 17 hits including 6 hundreds) and 13.06 (51 wickets) with the ball.
And I have less of a problem with Rikki doing it as it sounds as though he is local and looking to give back to the club rather than a paid mercenary who is about for one season.
Paballo is a genuine overseas pro he just happens to be playing in division 6!! If the club in question want to splash out that sort of money when they are in Div 6 then it's not his fault. He played in the Norfolk Alliance Prem last season and averaged 22 so he's not a complete gun.
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Paballo is a genuine overseas pro he just happens to be playing in division 6!! If the club in question want to splash out that sort of money when they are in Div 6 then it's not his fault. He played in the Norfolk Alliance Prem last season and averaged 22 so he's not a complete gun.
Surely no money is changing hands… can’t pay players in the TC league ;)
He should be racking up those numbers playing that far below his standard!
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Surely no money is changing hands… can’t pay players in the TC league ;)
He should be racking up those numbers playing that far below his standard!
Not sure what your saying, perfectly legitimate to pay players in the TC's league. In division 6 however, now that's a bit of a different question.... Of course he should be scoring runs at that level, was just pointing out that he's not necessarily like some of the overseas players in Div 1.