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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: six and out on February 09, 2023, 08:44:20 AM
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A lot of talk about the Nagpur pitch pre game but seems to be a pretty typical Indian wicket - not the crazy surfaces England played on.
Aus won the toss and batted - dropped Head for Renshaw very strangely who then got a duck.
Jadeja doing what he does and being class and currently has 4 for 45 off 20 as Aus are 174-8 at tea. Wickets of Labuschagne (49) and Smith (37) are worth watching.
It's on BT Sport or Talk Sport 2 Radio (which is what I am listening to) but they are talking SEN radio feed so is actually decent commentary - Adam Collins is one of the primary hosts.
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Definitely India's day today.
Good performance from Jadaja and Rohit with the bat.
Dropping Head was daft.
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Waugh gave the dropping of Head both barrels earlier.
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Who is Todd Murphy? Taken a 5fer!
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He's played a fair bit of big bash this year, looked decent line and length merchant. Interesting with the big turn all spinners going around the wicket, guess also to do with the lefty wicket that's been made.
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All the talk about wickets prepared for left handed batsmen and two left handed Indian bowling all rounders scored fifties! The Aus are just too caught up in the hype I feel. Made some strange selection calls.
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Just play the ball, all the chat about the wicket is hot air. Jadaja is a wonderful player.
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A great and often overlooked player.
Saw a brilliant tweet earlier about Rohit Sharma. One of the most exceptional batsman to never be the world's greatest in any format. A true quality player.
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India on fire. Australia just blown away.
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Done by an innings and 132 runs. Wow.
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How do you compete with that Indian attack in home conditions? As if Ashwin-Jadeja wasn't hard enough, they've now got essentially another, possibly better Jadeja.
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Agree. Truly formidable. Will take some team to beat them 8n India.
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Australia were blown away. All this hype about the wicket seems to have played more in their heads than the actual wicket.
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Australia defeated themselves by whining about the wicket. Wouldn’t happen in Bazball!
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Rare to see Aus drop so many catches. They looked shot in the field by the time Jadeja and Axar got together.
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Australia defeated themselves by whining about the wicket. Wouldn’t happen in Bazball!
Agree, next bazball in india would be great to watch
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Just watched the highlights. If possible, it's even more impressive on second viewing. Mesmerising bowling display.
Very sweary but really enjoying The Grade Cricketer reviews:
https://youtu.be/iv6bX3viwGs
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If true, the mind games continue.
Can we use your pitch...
Yeah... Sure... (turns sprinklers on). Fill your boots...
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/the-cheeky-act-that-rubbed-salt-into-australia-s-wounds-20230212-p5cjwo.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/the-cheeky-act-that-rubbed-salt-into-australia-s-wounds-20230212-p5cjwo.html)
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I wonder if we will ever get to close to uniform pitches across tours. Raging Bunsens in India are nothing new, think it was round 1987 we toured and lost 3 zip, it spun square after lunch on day 1. And the last time England toured there 2 day tests happened as the pitch exploded.
India of course can claim our wickets are prepared for movement and Australias for pace and bounce.
So there’s no real argument, home advantage is maximised whatever the team.
There maybe something that says a wicket is supposed to last four to five days but in reality that does not happen.
Personally for England I regard a series win away as the best we get certainly in Australia or Pakistan or India.
It’s a discussion point but from where I sit, nothing has changed in donkeys years, maybe it never should…
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Personally, I’m all for it.
The pitch can’t be absolutely terrible, India battled out 400 on it. I quite like the idea of home advantage, even if it is extremely strong, it gives you a different set of challenges wherever you.
Should Lords lose ‘the slope’
India proved they could bat on it, Aussies didn’t help themselves with a lack of match prep.
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There's home advantage and there's preparing dodgy pitches, India have a terrible track record over the past few years of preparing decks where 200 in the first innings is a great score. Even Dean Elgar was ripping through batting lineups at one point. From afar it didn't look like there was much of that going on here though, despite all the pre match flap about it Either that or the groundsman failed trying :D
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Agree, next bazball in india would be great to watch
That would be a fun watch for sure!
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There's home advantage and there's preparing dodgy pitches, India have a terrible track record over the past few years of preparing decks where 200 in the first innings is a great score. Even Dean Elgar was ripping through batting lineups at one point. From afar it didn't look like there was much of that going on here though, despite all the pre match flap about it Either that or the groundsman failed trying :D
BCCI gets what BCCI wants.
But, Fluff always wanted green mambas in South Africa, so it happens everywhere when required.
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Aussies are terrible players of spin bowling and have been for years. (Smith is the exception).
The Indians scored 400, so this is a mental and technical issue for the Aussies not a pitch issue.
Also The "goat's" record in India after three tours is terrible.
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Not sure this sort of behaviour paints India in a particularly good light
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/australia-training-in-nagpur-cancelled-after-ground-staff-water-pitches-1358519 (https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/australia-training-in-nagpur-cancelled-after-ground-staff-water-pitches-1358519)
I do wonder why, given the efforts other countries go to to try and leaving touring sides underprepared in the local conditions that we let opposition players turn out in the County Championship before an international series
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Lots of chat about the Eng/ NZ game. But Aus are getting taken to the cleaners by India. Some of the shots in the second innings were really bizarre. Aus look totally shot.
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Lots of talk around KL Rahul. Always found him a world class player who's second to none. Seems to be having a torrid time out there, has just one 50 in his past 10 innings. Hoping he comes good.
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Agree, @Kai. Looks like he has just had the vice captaincy removed which will hopefully help him focus on his batting.
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I don't reckon we'd turn KL down as a top 3 player!
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He's great to watch. I hope he gets back in the runs.
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Lots of talk around KL Rahul. Always found him a world class player who's second to none. Seems to be having a torrid time out there, has just one 50 in his past 10 innings. Hoping he comes good.
A classy knock once every 20 innings, a career avg of 33 after 47 tests, average of 26 since 2017, a proven track record of failing in all major ICC competitions - can't remember any other Indian player in recent or in past who got so many chances while managing such low average and non performance - not sure if that can considered as a classy player still. If aussies didn't have a brain fade in their 2nd innings, they would have won the 2nd test and KL would have been shown the door after postmortem. But not to be.
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An interesting view on KL Rahul - he may be doing better than you think https://youtu.be/yiH_C2ZygT8
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Very very sweary but I am really enjoying the Grade Cricketer reviews:
https://youtu.be/aSIREdSSqzk
Frank and raw deconstruction of Ind/ Aus series.
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I have to say I think we may have seen the last or Warner.
His record in England is terrible, he has been out of form for a while...
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This is a great clip normally but with the Ind/ Aus synopsis as subtitles, it's even better than normal... 4 - 0 looks a good bet:
https://twitter.com/TheCricketPod/status/1627720958684327936?t=sOkkQIOQN01sHxaD6Q2-Nw&s=19
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I have to say I think we may have seen the last or Warner.
His record in England is terrible, he has been out of form for a while...
Really quite a shame if hes not given the chance to Tour England one more time.
Id love his coffins nails to be hammered in firmly over here in front of English crowds with a single figure average
In reality I dont think Head would be considered at the top in normal conditions so who is there to come in? Renshaw started his career as an opener but has been further down for a while now
All points to 5-0 England
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Reaping what we've sewn, Langer being stabbed in the back by players is coming back to haunt them. Being popular dosen't make the best captain or coach.
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Really quite a shame if hes not given the chance to Tour England one more time.
Id love his coffins nails to be hammered in firmly over here in front of English crowds with a single figure average
In reality I dont think Head would be considered at the top in normal conditions so who is there to come in? Renshaw started his career as an opener but has been further down for a while now
All points to 5-0 England
Not convinced it will be 5 - 0. India is a false negative - Aus have routinely struggled there but still dominated elsewhere overseas.
Agree ref Langer. Been watching the Test on Amazon. An odd period.
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Reaping what we've sewn, Langer being stabbed in the back by players is coming back to haunt them. Being popular dosen't make the best captain or coach.
Langer's coaching record in away tests is hardly fantastic either...
Thought this series was always predictable, Australia just don't have enough top order batsmen who play spin well.
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Not convinced it will be 5 - 0. India is a false negative - Aus have routinely struggled there but still dominated elsewhere overseas.
Agree ref Langer. Been watching the Test on Amazon. An odd period.
Well yes, obviously. It wasn't a serious comment.
I'll put smiley faces next to it next time
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Reaping what we've sewn, Langer being stabbed in the back by players is coming back to haunt them. Being popular dosen't make the best captain or coach.
Is it not mostly just that as a squad they’re pretty guff in Indian conditions?
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It looks incredibly difficult in India to be honest and has been for a while. That England managed to win even 1 match there last tour is a feather in those players caps (thanks Roooot)
India have 3 spin bowling allrounders of the highest calibre and the pitches are made for accurate finger spin.
I dont think this will have any bearing on the outcome of the Ashes other than to perhaps change the aussies selection policies.
However - to say that Australia have dominated everywhere except India is not correct. They have lost in both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka in the not too distant past and drew 2 out of the 3 matches in Pakistan last year. Need I remind anyone that they havent won a series in England since 2001 aswell.
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Just seen that Cameron Bancroft has been in the runs again with 176* to set up a big win for WA in the Sheffield Shield.
How poetic if he was the man to replace Warner and end his Test Career
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He was the disposable newbie in sandpaper gate so indeed it would be some justice if he did replace him.
According to Warner, if he is to be believed, orders came from higher up in the set up.
Personally I do not buy that, the Captain is in charge of the team on the field.
Bancroft seemed to me to be disposable which was the worst aspect of it.
Ball tempering as such is not that bad, all teams have done it.
Lying to the umpires and covering it up was much worse IMO
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India getting a bit of a taste of their own medicine it seems, you love to see it.
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I conversation concerning Bancroft should pass without acknowledging the open letter he wrote to himself and was published in the West Australian newspaper.
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India getting a bit of a taste of their own medicine it seems, you love to see it.
You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Lovely bowling performance from the Aussie spinners.
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I think India will win this game... 😲😬
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Think India over did it with this pitch. Of course it was a late replacement for Dharmashala. Not sure if it was that or the desperation to qualify for the WTC final. I am sure this will get a poor rating.
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India getting a bit of a taste of their own medicine it seems, you love to see it.
Hope Bcci will make 5 day pitches after this self goal.
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looks like you got your wish, although very unsubtly its already looks like a draw pitch. convenient when they are winning the series.....
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India are gonna have to bat out of their skins to save this match. Australia well ahead
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looks like you got your wish, although very unsubtly its already looks like a draw pitch. convenient when they are winning the series.....
Wasn't hoping for the 5 day flat track. 3 day pitch that gets a result is better than a 5 day flat track that results in a draw IMO. So far pitch looks pretty flat, but it could open up in days 3-5 and make it interesting. Nothing wrong in hoping :)
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Should come as no shock they prep a better pitch, set up for a draw and series win for India. Great way to finish a really poor series.
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Virat Kohli ton. India looking to go big. Will the pitch degrade or is this just a five day net?
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Virat Kohli ton. India looking to go big. Will the pitch degrade or is this just a five day net?
Solid ton. Real gritty. I reckon it will but it's too late for a result to be possible.
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potm to the groundsman, won them the series with that track. i doubt it would have been the case had the 3rd test not gone australia's way because the pitch was so bad the other way
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Not saying it makes for great cricket, but let's be honest any team playing a series at home would probably do the same in the circumstances.
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i dont doubt that, i feel that this series in particular was taken too far in terms of pitch prep. first 3 tests barely managed 9 full days in total but the 4th they could still be playing on at the end of this week. its very different to a green deck or a fast deck, at least with those there is a degree of parity for both sides.
the entire series wasnt a great advert for test cricket imo.
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Why did the Aussies not have a go to try and set a target?
They were 2-1 down anyway. Very negative.
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I am trying to recall the last time I watched a test played in India on a good standard pitch that offered a good balance between bat and ball. The pitches across all 4 tests have ruined what could have been a high quality series
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I am trying to recall the last time I watched a test played in India on a good standard pitch that offered a good balance between bat and ball. The pitches across all 4 tests have ruined what could have been a high quality series
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