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Title: Your the Umpire
Post by: Howzat on April 01, 2010, 03:13:30 PM
Just a bit of fun here... lets see if anyone can get these questions.
Ill set a new one once its been correctly answered.

At the end of an over, a fast bowler who has split his boot signals to the balcony for a new pair and asks permission to change on the field. What is your decision?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Ashvir on April 01, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
You inspect the damage, then decide accordingly
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: stubbzy on April 01, 2010, 03:18:47 PM
he has to go off the field and cant return untill the end of an over
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: anthonyant on April 01, 2010, 03:27:17 PM
^i agree with slogs
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Howzat on April 01, 2010, 03:31:56 PM
Correct. Players must leave the field to change, no sub can be bought on.


The captain has the field spread right out with a lone slip in place, the light is fading and they are playing for the draw. After each ball the captain (wicket keeper) goes and has a long conversation with slip. What should you do?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: anthonyant on April 01, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
Talk to the captain to say he has to be ready by the time the batsman are ready and bowler, if he continues then penalty runs?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Howzat on April 01, 2010, 08:23:23 PM
Near enough, warn him and if he persists add 5 penalty runs
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: mars on August 11, 2010, 05:58:15 PM
Here's one:

After striking the ball, an injured batsman runs and makes his ground at the bowler's end while his runner remains in his ground at the wicket keeper's end. The non-striker makes good his ground at the wicket keeper's end. The wicket is put down at the wicket keeper's end. What is your response to an appeal?

a) Not out - everyone is within their ground.
b) Non-striker is Out because runner never left his end.
c) Striker is Out - New batsman should be directed to wicket keeper's end
d) Striker is Out - New batsman should go to the bowler's end.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Jeet on August 11, 2010, 06:04:47 PM
Here's one:

After striking the ball, an injured batsman runs and makes his ground at the bowler's end while his runner remains in his ground at the wicket keeper's end. The non-striker makes good his ground at the wicket keeper's end. The wicket is put down at the wicket keeper's end. What is your response to an appeal?

a) Not out - everyone is within their ground.
b) Non-striker is Out because runner never left his end.
c) Striker is Out - New batsman should be directed to wicket keeper's end
d) Striker is Out - New batsman should go to the bowler's end.
C.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: ianbuchanan on August 11, 2010, 06:45:55 PM
C out! Similar thing happened to me after i broke my toe, i was on 59 with 20 overs to go!
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: mars on August 12, 2010, 05:20:21 PM
Haha yeah, you're both correct :)
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Talisman on August 12, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
I would have said A, if the non striker has made it to the end where the wicket has been put down then he is safe and the other end should be put down to make a Run Out???
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: anthonyant on August 12, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
same mike because both 'batsman' in play are at the wk end?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Talisman on August 12, 2010, 06:31:24 PM
I know that either the striker or his runner can be run out or stumped, but since one has made his ground at the bowlers end that is the wicket that needs to be put down they are all not out.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Jeet on August 12, 2010, 07:35:07 PM
I know that either the striker or his runner can be run out or stumped, but since one has made his ground at the bowlers end that is the wicket that needs to be put down they are all not out.
Wrong Mike. If a batsman has runner, he's not permitted to leave his crease. Therefore he would be out.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Coach on August 12, 2010, 07:41:01 PM
I agree with Mike, Not Out all batsmen are within their ground, however i would ask the runner to leave the field as the batsmen is able to run
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: ianbuchanan on August 12, 2010, 08:09:27 PM
My situation was slightly different.

I was facing with a runner, hit a ball to long-off and my runner and the non-striker took a single. The non-striker made his ground easily at my end, but i wandered off to square leg but was out of my crease. The 'Win at all costs' Bristol West Indies took the bails off and I was given out...

Should that have been out???
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Talisman on August 12, 2010, 08:12:44 PM
Technically yes, but you could have argued it was against the spirit of the game.

Jeet, is there a rule saying the striker cannot run?, he needs a runner so that should signal his inability but we must have all seen it happen. If he steps over the popping crease he can be out.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: ianbuchanan on August 12, 2010, 08:14:26 PM
Yeah thats what everyone thought at the time.... survived 24 overs of bouncers to be out like that :D
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: mars on August 12, 2010, 09:24:17 PM
Law 2 (Substitutes and runners; batsman or fielder leaving the field; batsman retiring; batsman commencing innings)

8. Transgression of the Laws by a batsman who has a runner
(c) When a batsman with a runner is striker he remains himself subject to the Laws and will be liable to the penalties that any infringement of them demands.
Additionally, if he is out of his ground when the wicket is put down at the wicket-keeper's end, he will be out in the circumstances of Law 38 (Run out) or Law 39 (Stumped) irrespective of the position of the non-striker or of the runner. If he is thus dismissed, runs completed by the runner and the other batsman before the dismissal shall not be scored. However, the penalty for a No ball or a Wide shall stand, together with any penalties to either side that may be awarded when the ball is dead. See Law 42.17 (Penalty runs).




http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-2-substitutes-and-runners-batsman-or-fielder-leaving-the-field-batsman-retiring-batsman-commencing-innings,28,AR.html (http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-2-substitutes-and-runners-batsman-or-fielder-leaving-the-field-batsman-retiring-batsman-commencing-innings,28,AR.html)
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Talisman on August 12, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
Surely that is with respect to him standing outside his ground while runs are being made rather than performing the run himself?

Where is a top umpire when you need one?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Mortimer on August 12, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
he has to go off the field and cant return untill the end of an over

or the fall of a wicket?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Coach on August 13, 2010, 12:16:57 AM

 if he is out of his ground when the wicket is put down at the wicket-keeper's end, he will be out in the circumstances of Law 38 (Run out) or Law 39 (Stumped) irrespective of the position of the non-striker or of the runner.[/color][/b]


The batsman has made his ground, all be it at the other end but in any other situation the batsman would have been said to have made his ground...
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Skully on August 21, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
need some help on this one, it happpened to a mate of mine. they are bowling, the scores are tied and they have 1 wicket left, a wide is bowled, they ran and they got the run out. The umpire said that they lost but got all 10 wickets....however Im sure thats not the case as once the wide is called that is the end of the game correct?
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Talisman on August 21, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Skully on August 21, 2010, 08:55:39 PM
thought so, but always nice to confirm. Bloke was gona claim they took 10 wickets and lost by 0 wickets on the scoresheet! Glad I informed him
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: johan95 on September 18, 2010, 08:59:19 AM
With the one about the runner, something similar happened in t20 final, Christian wandered out of his ground, so in theory if kieswetter had the ball and took the stumps off, it could have been different...
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Howzat on September 18, 2010, 09:08:43 AM
I was thinking after watching the pakistan fielders last night slide and save a ball and the boundary markers were pushed out... what would happen if a fielder was trying to take a high catch on the boundary as he walked back his heels moved the rope back by 7" and he takes a small step forward and takes the catch but his heels were over the original boundary
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Jeet on September 18, 2010, 11:01:56 AM
I was thinking after watching the pakistan fielders last night slide and save a ball and the boundary markers were pushed out... what would happen if a fielder was trying to take a high catch on the boundary as he walked back his heels moved the rope back by 7" and he takes a small step forward and takes the catch but his heels were over the original boundary
This happens a lot in the sub continent, if following the boundry the ball goes where the boundry should've been it's 4 or 6. It's easier to spot in Asia as the grass gets discoloured due to the boundry advertising triangle.
Title: Re: Your the Umpire
Post by: Jeet on September 18, 2010, 11:03:07 AM
With the one about the runner, something similar happened in t20 final, Christian wandered out of his ground, so in theory if kieswetter had the ball and took the stumps off, it could have been different...
Yes SCCC would've won. The runner isn't allowed to leave his crease