General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: tommo256 on May 03, 2010, 08:11:18 AM
Title: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: tommo256 on May 03, 2010, 08:11:18 AM
Hello, Yesterday when bowling I managed to get one ball to swing away and in honesty I havent got a clue how I done it. I would like to be able to do it consistenly so any tips and advice would be nice :)
Cheers x
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Coach on May 03, 2010, 08:15:49 AM
You need to get really side on in your action and follow right through
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Tumo on May 03, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
Not necessarily Greg, when I bowled my Collingwood-esque dobblies, I used to get plenty of swing from a front on action. wrist and seam position are crucial, seam needs to be upright. shiny side of the ball wants to be on the opposite side that you want to swing it to, so a right armer swinging it away to a right handed batsman wants the shiny side facing the leg side boundary.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Liam-SCCC on May 03, 2010, 08:21:45 AM
I have a mixed action and bowl big away swingers. You need to really rip you fingers down the ball to get the seam going down perfectly.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: niceonechoppy on May 03, 2010, 08:31:00 AM
It doesn't matter if you're chest on or side on, it's all in perfection of the wrist and seam position.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Tumo on May 03, 2010, 08:39:48 AM
Also, it depends on the conditions. slightly windy, overcast, not overly cold conditions should be perfect. oh, and when i said collingwood-esque, i meant similar style, just far far worse! you need a breeze, much like a spinner is helped to drift the ball by a breeze. physics-wise, they're not too dissimilar.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Liam-SCCC on May 03, 2010, 08:48:16 AM
Try and bowl into the wind if possible, this will swing more than bowling with the wind.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: tommo256 on May 03, 2010, 08:56:46 AM
I bowled yesterday and it was serious overcast and windy and I only got one ball to swing so
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Tumo on May 03, 2010, 08:57:28 AM
Try and bowl into the wind if possible, this will swing more than bowling with the wind.
bit of a buggar for genuine quicks who want to swing it though isn't it! sacrificing swing for speed or vice-versa...
and tommo, like i said, it's a combination of wrist and seam position as well. difficult art to get right all the time!
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: tommo256 on May 03, 2010, 09:03:47 AM
Yeah I am gonna work on it in nets and see what happens...I am no fast bowler either so
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: acko109 on May 03, 2010, 11:35:41 AM
isnt it to did with how high ur arm is aswell ? as i bowl with quite a high action n can move it both ways but the seam position is key ive found
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Talisman on May 03, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
A gentle grip with the fingers will get the ball to swing later, keep your arm high and try and make it a smooth action to generate it. Overhead conditions do play a part, no swing from anyone on Saturday due to cold wind and heavy cloud.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on May 03, 2010, 07:06:04 PM
Heavy cloud is the best weather condition for swing bowling.
Wrist position plays a big part as does you type of action (side on best suited to away swing, chest on for in swing)but there are lots of factors including the type and quality of ball. There are some good websites to look at that give tips etc. Just keep practising in the nets.
Title: Re: How do I get the ball to swing
Post by: Buzz on May 05, 2010, 11:16:18 AM
(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/Q2mJq5HFZYo/default.jpg) Wasim Akram Teaching About Seam and swing Bowling (http://videos.desishock.net/458104/Wasim-Akram-Teaching-About-Seam-and-swing-Bowling)