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Title: Marking out your guard!
Post by: peplow on June 03, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
Not really training but just a question about how to effectively mark your guard. When i try doing it with spikes a get lots of rubbish lines which go after a delivery or so even if i redo and redo. Wondered how people get one solid line with which spike etc. Also seen trott (OCD Trott!) do a huge one with spikes then bat! But i just cant get one good solid deep line!! Help!!!

P.s. dont wanna make a trench half way down  pitch like trott! as my groundsman wouldnt be happy!!!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Buzz on June 03, 2010, 03:44:58 PM
The Trott thing was comical - especially when he was still marking his guard after the end of the match!!

I just use my spikes and hope it stays and re-check when required
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: peplow on June 03, 2010, 03:46:03 PM
Do you use the front sort of top spike or side ones? This may seem really silly by the way but its really annoying me!

Yeah the after the match marking made me laugh!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: eaowbear on June 03, 2010, 03:47:49 PM
I try to use the very top spike to mark my guard and seems to work.

I wouldn't dream of doing it but you could try doing a Chanderpaul by removing the bail and knocking it in to the ground with your bat but be prepared for some comments!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Buzz on June 03, 2010, 03:48:38 PM
I have never actually thought about it!! I think it is either the front spike or the one under the ball of my big toe.

thinking about it, I am pretty sure it is the spike under the ball of my big toe.

I have seen a few guys do the Chanderpaul, but I think that is a rubbish idea!!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: eaowbear on June 03, 2010, 03:51:51 PM
Always makes me laugh when I see someone doing it, especially when they don't last very long! So unnecessary
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: stubbzy on June 03, 2010, 03:55:29 PM
i use the spike under my big toe
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: peplow on June 03, 2010, 04:00:45 PM
ahh interesting stuff, will try that spike and the follow through with the bat!!!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Colesy on June 03, 2010, 04:17:33 PM
I bat in rubbers normally so I use the outside of my boot to mark my guard, but when I wear spikes I use the top spike at the front of my foot.

If the pitch is dusty then I retake my guard every over
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: peplow on June 03, 2010, 04:26:35 PM
Yeah its the dusty piches that piss me off!!!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: stubbzy on June 03, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
just mark it everytime you get on strike
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Watsontotty on June 03, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
I basically ask for two and stand the bat upright roughly where i think two is and i move the bat where the umpire tells me and once its on two then i leave the bat in that position and pull my foot straight towards the umpire making a big mark. Once i have a decent mark i also try and tap the wicket to leave a mark but when its hard i drag another mark with my foot making a v mark.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Kulli on February 10, 2011, 04:50:59 PM
Bit slow on this ones but  tend to make my usual mark where I'll bat and another one slightly deeper thats less likely to get trampled on by some other buggar. No foolproof but saves pestering the umpire all the time.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: 19reading87 on February 10, 2011, 10:17:36 PM
I put scrap my mark twice before every delivery... watched the Pro's do it when I was younger, thought it would make me look "cool" but has always stuck with me haha

And this is my 1000th post... wooooooooooooop wooooooooooop
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Simmy on February 10, 2011, 10:23:50 PM
spike next to my toe..

what annoys are grounds man is i also mark the off stump when im keeping.

mark the off stump and plant my left foot on the line. dont really need to do it just habbit
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: justnotcricket86 on February 10, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Simmy I do the same mate, even when I stand up. Always have a scrape with the left foot
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: tim2000s on February 11, 2011, 12:32:33 AM
As long as the bat is somewhere in front of the stumps, who needs a guard?  ;)

Seriously, usually mark 2 with the spike in the middle of the boot and drag it about a foot into the wicket, then batter it a bit with the bat.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: mattw on February 11, 2011, 12:48:51 AM
Use the spike on the front of the shoe to make a mark so that I always know where my middle stump is and then change me stance around this depending on what im facing.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Master-Basterd on February 11, 2011, 12:53:28 AM
If i have enough time, i will stand there and keep everyone waiting. and scrape the shiiitttt into the crease for a deep long straight line.

I however also use a good set up of spikes: 9 in total (4 soft spikes in the back. and 5 extra length spikes in the front for decent traction. which help in marking out your crease)
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: golders on February 11, 2011, 08:45:18 AM
just mark it everytime you get on strike

that is so unnecessary and serious timewasting!You better be joking stubbzy :o
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: stubbzy on February 11, 2011, 04:54:47 PM
no mate, its not really time wasting. just habbit
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Colesy on February 11, 2011, 04:58:17 PM
Seeing as my original post is now wrong for because I have spikes. I would say I'm half Trott, half normal when marking a guard. I like a very distinct line, but not one 50cm long. 15cm will do.

Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Simmy on February 11, 2011, 05:02:11 PM
i hit the floor really hard as well make a nice big hole lol
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Colesy on February 11, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
I hate that! Lol.

I leant a guy from our club my bat for one game and he did that almost snapping the handle on the bat. You could hear him hitting the bat on the crease from the boundary. To top it all off he wasn't really a batsman, or cricketer.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Simmy on February 11, 2011, 05:33:41 PM
helps my agressive batting style.

bang the floor and be like this ball is going massiveeeeeeeee this ball is going massive..

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM FTF
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: johan95 on February 11, 2011, 06:31:11 PM
that is so unnecessary and serious timewasting!You better be joking stubbzy :o
I don't really see marking it every time you get on strike as timewasting though. I tend to mark it once an over, sometimes I check everytime I get on strike for the first part of my innings.. :) Don't want to get confused with other marks subconsciously.
And LOL Simmy! How many 6s do you hit a season mate? Saw your video on YouTube, you look like you have the technique and hand-eye to hit big!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: alexrickyponting on February 11, 2011, 06:39:31 PM
that is so unnecessary and serious timewasting!You better be joking stubbzy :o
i go over my guard pretty much every time i run, takes about 5 seconds and is done before the bowler is halfway back to his mark, so defo not time wasting, maybe unneccessary but habit and keeps me concentrating
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: johan95 on February 11, 2011, 06:43:01 PM
Yeah that is a good point Alex, obviously that doesn't quite work with a spinner, but I guess checking your guard every time you get on strike is slightly excessive, but if it's habit then so be it :)
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: alexrickyponting on February 11, 2011, 06:44:47 PM
lol still works with a spinner, just scratch over my mark a couple of times after ive got in my crease, dont need to ask umpire or anything. its just one of those small things that seem to help a lot lol
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: johan95 on February 11, 2011, 06:51:44 PM
Fair enough, I check the mark with an umpire once at each end primarily, and maybe once or twice after that per end, then I am comfotable and if not out would continue with the method you suggested. Or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: stubbzy on February 11, 2011, 06:53:51 PM
i dont check my guard, i just remark it, i only scratch about 3 times, merely routine and routines help you concentrate
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: roco on February 11, 2011, 06:57:42 PM
I mark my guard with a v on leg once then don't bother with it again unless I can't see it but I always have the face of the bat facing the off stump
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: kenbriooo on February 11, 2011, 09:26:10 PM
Ask for 1 - which always allows you to quickly assess the standard of the umpire as occasionally they don't know what you mean!

Tend to Mark a line from the crease back towards the stumps as it tends not to get trod on to there so I can keep remarking it as and when. I'll also make a Mark about a foot in front of the crease going diagonally towards fine leg. I quite often like to bat in and out of my crease so I find it helpful to have the 2 markings.

Sure the groundwork does not appreciate it tho!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: pacman75cricket on February 12, 2011, 04:41:52 PM
Make one mark & remark when necessary.

As groundsman what is a irritating is keepers making a gouge on  off stump.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Tumo on February 12, 2011, 06:08:29 PM
I don't mark it anymore, I ask where 2 is and then go from there. Someone before has no doubt gouged a canyon on middle, so I have a decent idea of where everything is.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: chris_1978 on May 06, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
I mark out with a stud, and then next over when at the non strikers end i do a Chanderpaul with the bail.  That hole will the stay there for longer than any other scrape.  Just dont do it when you take guard, youll get sledged.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
Chris, welcome to the forum i see this is your first post however if you look at the date of the last post it was a while back, check the dates in future it will keep the admin guys happy which is always a good thing.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Wills on May 06, 2011, 08:27:48 PM
Just wondering what would you do if you came to a relatively used wicket and came to somewhat of a ditch because of all the guard marking.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: alexrickyponting on May 06, 2011, 08:30:19 PM
mark guard within crease where ground is better most likely
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: mattw on May 06, 2011, 08:37:18 PM
I was playing a game the other day and someone from the opposition put his bat on the ground and lined it up with the stumps and then marked his own guard. At least I guess you know the ump hasn't given you a dodgey guard.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Talisman on May 06, 2011, 11:17:29 PM
Don't take a guard, no need unless you are weak mentally, watch the ball instead, works 60% of the time all the time.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Johng on May 07, 2011, 12:14:18 AM
Don't take a guard, no need unless you are weak mentally, watch the ball instead, works 60% of the time all the time.
LOL only from you Mike!!!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Talisman on May 07, 2011, 06:49:03 AM
I was actually told by an Aussie coach with Somerset years ago that if you need to know where your stumps are they are the large wooden sticks 3 feet away, also the bowler will never deliver the ball from exactly the same position 2 balls in a row so why would you stand in exactly the same place? I stand where I feel happy and don't worry about anything else, don't get too hung up over scratching and re marking a line in the dirt, there are far more important things to concentrate on. Free your mind.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on May 07, 2011, 07:12:45 AM
I was actually told by an Aussie coach with Somerset years ago that if you need to know where your stumps are they are the large wooden sticks 3 feet away, also the bowler will never deliver the ball from exactly the same position 2 balls in a row so why would you stand in exactly the same place? I stand where I feel happy and don't worry about anything else, don't get too hung up over scratching and re marking a line in the dirt, there are far more important things to concentrate on. Free your mind.
I will try this, never use a mark in nets and never seem to be bowled. Mind you nets for me is all about having a slog!
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: uknsaunders on May 07, 2011, 08:05:17 AM
I was playing a game the other day and someone from the opposition put his bat on the ground and lined it up with the stumps and then marked his own guard. At least I guess you know the ump hasn't given you a dodgey guard.

Seen it alot haha. I generally do it before asking for my guard, saves a bit of time for the ump if I've got it right.
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: 19reading87 on May 07, 2011, 08:13:03 AM
Used to copy the pros when I was younger and do it everyball and now its just habit to do it
Title: Re: Marking out your guard!
Post by: Buzz on May 09, 2011, 09:28:01 AM
Chris, welcome to the forum i see this is your first post however if you look at the date of the last post it was a while back, check the dates in future it will keep the admin guys happy which is always a good thing.

I just want to correct a misnomer here - there is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing up old threads - it is welcomed. It is repetition of old/previous threads which is marginally irritating as it means discussions end up in multiple places.