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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Dobbs on September 30, 2008, 09:59:23 AM
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I'm considering getting an M&H S6 next season... I was wondering if anyone owns one or has any pictures?
Also does anyone know the cheapest place to buy one online or anywhere in Lancashire that stocks them?
Cheers,
Dobbs
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Have the same question myself (might as well bump it rather than start a new thread)...
Any experiences of this bat? As I understand it, it's a Solution with those odd honeycomb bits in - what difference do they make?
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Have the same question myself (might as well bump it rather than start a new thread)...
Any experiences of this bat? As I understand it, it's a Solution with those odd honeycomb bits in - what difference do they make?
Have used one a couple of times in the past, not that impressed. Well enough made, as with all M&H bats, but nothing special in the response or pick up.
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think M&H said they are no longer making them when Pete and i were talking to them at Lords ???
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Wrong profile really. If you look at the S6 it is more traditional profile whilst the release of the Master is more in keeping with a chunky, monster of a bat! The kind of bat where the edges are the same width as the bat blade!! :(
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The S6 I had was lovely, just got a better Instinct. You can get them from Talent Cricket in G1 for £150 at the moment.
http://www.talentcricket.co.uk/millichamp_and_hall_cricket_bats_2011/millichamp_and_hall_s6_grade_1/c295p76.html
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I love my s6. Its amazing. Unfortunately I'm not amazing. But its still a great bat and even my girly little arms can send the ball sailing to the boundary occasionally. Love it. Just bought a new S6 in their sale so looking forward to seeing how it goes next year
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I was in the shop the other day, they are being discontinued. Because of this they have been reduced to £150, had some nice ones in the shop!
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Distinction, Black Cat or Instinct for me next year.........
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I was in the shop the other day, they are being discontinued. Because of this they have been reduced to £150, had some nice ones in the shop!
£150? Bloody hell, I should have waited another couple of weeks
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anyone wanna buy a RARE LIMITED EDITION brand new s6, never used? lol
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anyone wanna buy a RARE LIMITED EDITION brand new s6, never used? lol
No!
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anyone wanna buy a RARE LIMITED EDITION brand new s6, never used? lol
Nice try mate! Maybe leave it a year or two!
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Nice try mate! Maybe leave it a year or two!
nah, the edges'll be knackered by then
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They are £140 from M&H at the moment. Just got this email
http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/newsletter/s6-sale.html
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Anyone know the strict legality of these bats?
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They are £140 from M&H at the moment. Just got this email
[url]http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/newsletter/s6-sale.html[/url]
I just got that as well. Might get one for that price seems like a good deal.
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£140....
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I've got the same issue with buying bats as using them.... bad timing!
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£140....
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I've got the same issue with buying bats as using them.... bad timing!
Used yours OK on Tuesday mate!!!
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Newbie---forgive my intrusion and hello. No, I'm not a "goth" in the piercing/ tattooed sense; I chose the name because I am a "cricket barbarian" (a lot to learn). Anyway, I suffer from the same timing problems as OMF, and I bought my 2 lb 10 oz (post office verified) S-6 at full price this summer. Decent # of grains (10-11), decently straight, blemishes and knots on the sides and back, and quite a bit of heart wood down one edge. The staff was very courteous, professional, and prompt. At first I did not really like the pick up (heavy) and it did look quite newfangled. I haven't given it enough time for a just review (my one game with it was really a disaster---not the bat's fault---"it's the Indian not the arrow" as we say). It does seem powerful and has a live face. Maybe a good tailender bat, light enough to defend and yet able to reach out for an easy boundary on a gift ball. At 140 pounds it is a bargain, but one has to ask why did they discontinue the line? Popularity? Or design mediocrity? A bat you won't use isn't worth 140 either. Not much help, but I would suggest talking to the friendly folks at M & H to see if it suits your game. I'm still up in the air, and I will need more time. It is well made. Pictures were requested.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6005.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6007.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6006.jpg)
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The main suspicions around the reason they have discontinued the design are twofold. 1. They weren't selling that many. 2. Due to the plugs they may not be strictly a type A bat and therefore may cause issues in senior leagues.
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Newbie---forgive my intrusion and hello. No, I'm not a "goth" in the piercing/ tattooed sense; I chose the name because I am a "cricket barbarian" (a lot to learn). Anyway, I suffer from the same timing problems as OMF, and I bought my 2 lb 10 oz (post office verified) S-6 at full price this summer. Decent # of grains (10-11), decently straight, blemishes and knots on the sides and back, and quite a bit of heart wood down one edge. The staff was very courteous, professional, and prompt. At first I did not really like the pick up (heavy) and it did look quite newfangled. I haven't given it enough time for a just review (my one game with it was really a disaster---not the bat's fault---"it's the Indian not the arrow" as we say). It does seem powerful and has a live face. Maybe a good tailender bat, light enough to defend and yet able to reach out for an easy boundary on a gift ball. At 140 pounds it is a bargain, but one has to ask why did they discontinue the line? Popularity? Or design mediocrity? A bat you won't use isn't worth 140 either. Not much help, but I would suggest talking to the friendly folks at M & H to see if it suits your game. I'm still up in the air, and I will need more time. It is well made. Pictures were requested.
([url]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6005.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6007.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6006.jpg[/url])
Welcome. I have a feeling you have a lot to offer this forum. Very good first post.
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Newbie---forgive my intrusion and hello. No, I'm not a "goth" in the piercing/ tattooed sense; I chose the name because I am a "cricket barbarian" (a lot to learn). Anyway, I suffer from the same timing problems as OMF, and I bought my 2 lb 10 oz (post office verified) S-6 at full price this summer. Decent # of grains (10-11), decently straight, blemishes and knots on the sides and back, and quite a bit of heart wood down one edge. The staff was very courteous, professional, and prompt. At first I did not really like the pick up (heavy) and it did look quite newfangled. I haven't given it enough time for a just review (my one game with it was really a disaster---not the bat's fault---"it's the Indian not the arrow" as we say). It does seem powerful and has a live face. Maybe a good tailender bat, light enough to defend and yet able to reach out for an easy boundary on a gift ball. At 140 pounds it is a bargain, but one has to ask why did they discontinue the line? Popularity? Or design mediocrity? A bat you won't use isn't worth 140 either. Not much help, but I would suggest talking to the friendly folks at M & H to see if it suits your game. I'm still up in the air, and I will need more time. It is well made. Pictures were requested.
([url]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6005.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6007.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/mdmoorman/s6006.jpg[/url])
I dont really have problems with timing the ball, I was only joking...
Its more just a problem with timing it well, but stright in the air to a fielder! :D
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The main suspicions around the reason they have discontinued the design are twofold. 1. They weren't selling that many. 2. Due to the plugs they may not be strictly a type A bat and therefore may cause issues in senior leagues.
The plugs are simply ultra-lightweight wood that's been glued in Tom so the bats are fine re type A. I spoke to the guys at M&H about this, it's basically a gimmick to lighten the bat a bit without altering the pickup. Not sure how much of a difference it makes though.
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If they've been glued in then it would be strictly illegal, at least by my understanding of the MCC laws.
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The plugs are simply ultra-lightweight wood that's been glued in Tom so the bats are fine re type A. I spoke to the guys at M&H about this, it's basically a gimmick to lighten the bat a bit without altering the pickup. Not sure how much of a difference it makes though.
'To lighten the bat without altering the pickup.'
So what your saying is they told you the concept of this model was to make a light bat with the pickup of a heavier one?
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The plugs are simply ultra-lightweight wood that's been glued in Tom so the bats are fine re type A. I spoke to the guys at M&H about this, it's basically a gimmick to lighten the bat a bit without altering the pickup. Not sure how much of a difference it makes though.
As the blade must be made solely from wood, glueing in the plugs makes the bat illegal according to law six. If, however, you were to make oversized plugs, hammer them in and then sand them down to the level of the bat surface, you would comply with law six.... However, after much use the plugs may come out!
I don't know whether they are glued in but I would suspect it would be difficult to sell the bat without that, so I suspect that it is not strictly a type A bat, or even type B or C under the rules.
My interpretation of the bat description was that it gave you a bat similar to the solution but with a significantly lighter pick-up.
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'To lighten the bat without altering the pickup.'
So what your saying is they told you the concept of this model was to make a light bat with the pickup of a heavier one?
No, to lighten the pickup of a bat with a very low middle.
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As the blade must be made solely from wood, glueing in the plugs makes the bat illegal according to law six. If, however, you were to make oversized plugs, hammer them in and then sand them down to the level of the bat surface, you would comply with law six.... However, after much use the plugs may come out!
They're probably hammered in then as I believe their bats do confirm to type a standards.
My interpretation of the bat description was that it gave you a bat similar to the solution but with a significantly lighter pick-up.
Probably but the solutions pretty light anyway Tim - it should be for near on £300!
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They're probably hammered in then as I believe their bats do confirm to type a standards.
Probably but the solutions pretty light anyway Tim - it should be for near on £300!
Price doesn't alter the pickup of a bat. A bat with a low middle will have a heavier pickup. Basic physics. Price does not matter. The solution has a lot of wood very low down, thus is generally accepted to have a heavier pickup.
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I thought all cricket bats had to be made of 1 piece of willow, so adding another piece wood in any form isn't legal?
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Price doesn't alter the pickup of a bat. A bat with a low middle will have a heavier pickup. Basic physics. Price does not matter. The solution has a lot of wood very low down, thus is generally accepted to have a heavier pickup.
I think it can Jon as I was thinking more along the lines of the bat being made from a lighter grade of wood for the size a la amplus or distinction - these bats are made from oversized clefts but still pickup/weigh like a normal bat, even the older style distinction which was like a solution on steroids.
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I thought all cricket bats had to be made of 1 piece of willow, so adding another piece wood in any form isn't legal?
Sorry, yes you are correct:
The blade shall consist solely of wood.
(c) No material may be placed on or inserted into either the blade or the lower portion of the handle other than as permitted in 3(d) above and 5 and 6 below, together with the minimal adhesives or adhesive tape used solely for fixing these items, or for fixing the handle to the blade.
Where 5 and 6 say that the material can only be for protection or repair, which patently it is for neither in the S6.... I have misrepresented the laws. I shall go and beat myself with an Ash stick...
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Probably but the solutions pretty light anyway Tim - it should be for near on £300!
I haven't found one that picked up light yet!
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I haven't found one that picked up light yet!
Perhaps I should have said light for the design!
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Without sounding nasty, perhaps you shouldn't have bothered, without making it clear your point from the beginning.
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I think it can Jon as I was thinking more along the lines of the bat being made from a lighter grade of wood for the size a la amplus or distinction - these bats are made from oversized clefts but still pickup/weigh like a normal bat, even the older style distinction which was like a solution on steroids.
Density of willow does account for size of bat for weight, but I don't think of two bats of the same shape and weight, the one with lighter willow (thus bigger) will necessarily pick up any better. Indeed there is a theory developing that massive, concaved low density bats do not tend to pick up as well as their more traditional counterparts.
I guess we will agree to disagree.
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Without sounding nasty, perhaps you shouldn't have bothered, without making it clear your point from the beginning.
Thanks for the advice Nick.
In fact I think I'll stop bothering with the forum full stop.
Cheers.
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I know what its like mate. There's always people that know more about things than you. Especially those things that you think you're an expert on lol. Don't spit your dummy :D
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Thanks for the advice Nick.
In fact I think I'll stop bothering with the forum full stop.
Cheers.
Dear me, another one who spits the dummy when he reads something he doesn't like.
Grow up for god's sake.
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I know what its like mate. There's always people that know more about things than you. Especially those things that you think you're an expert on lol. Don't spit your dummy :D
Dear me, another one who spits the dummy when he reads something he doesn't like.
Grow up for god's sake.
Not at all. I run a very successful forum myself and know exactly what it's like so don't jump to conclusions please - it's that I've just had an epiphany moment. Rather than sitting here arguing with people who know a lot more than me about bats (of which I have absolutely no problem with whatsoever), I'll be better off spending time practicing with mine and becoming a better player for next season.
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Not at all. I run a very successful forum myself and know exactly what it's like so don't jump to conclusions please - it's that I've just had an epiphany moment. Rather than sitting here arguing with people who know a lot more than me about bats (of which I have absolutely no problem with whatsoever), I'll be better off spending time practicing with mine and becoming a better player for next season.
Surely there is nothing wrong with discussion, if it leads to misinformation being eliminated and people being educated?
Oh well, don't let the door hit your (No Swearing Please) on the way out ;)
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Informative on the minutiae of bat legality, thanks. I'm surprised that they can sell a bat that is non-conforming and not tell the consumer. Taylor Made came out with a non-conforming driver and had to tell their customers. This is not a preamble to a "I want to speak to the manager and get my money back" tirade directed at M & H. I'm a big caveat emptor man, and it is irrelevant to my cricket, but I am surprised that they would not have trouble with other, less gracious and more serious, clients.
I should add that it is nice to see someone else getting into a tiff. On US fora that person is usually me, as a left leaning, peace loving, internationalist there always seems to be some poster from Texas who can turn a seemingly benign topic into a soap box for hatred, war, guns, jesus, and the divine infallibility of the USA---then I get going and we have a problem. :D Cricket bats should be safe! I know that I have a lot to learn so, when corrected, I hope I won't kick over the game board and take my toys home.
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My one real S-6 experience. Of course, fooling around and practicing with the bat--- it launches line drive 4's and towering 6's. So, the bat isn't the problem in the following tale of woe, I am.
When I came on to bat, the bowler, a young West Indian 15 years my junior, was on his last delivery. I had observed that he was bowling relatively fast and so my strategy was to simply defend my wicket with a defensive stroke and set about the task of "batting my eye in." A low, hard ball came straight at the wicket and I got a bat on it, edging an ugly dribble into the slips. Okay, still here. The next bowler, another Guyanese, sauntered onto the pitch, graying at the temples and at least 15 years older than me. I thought to myself: "I'm going to have to show poor old Ben the meaning of 'boundaries'; I hope the scorer pays attention to which are 6's and which 4's." Then came the delivery, a floating affair, just above eye level, that was drifting towards leg stump and looked as if it would land at or just short of a 'good length'. I took two small, quick strides up the pitch and had a mighty cut at the ball, aiming to lift it into the admiring wives at long on, and hoping that no one would be too badly hurt. Would a crotch grab or moonwalk be unsporting?? Unfortunately, the ball had a great deal of legspin on it, and my bat found only air as the ball spun hard into the mid and off stumps. Sh-t. >:( ;) :-[ :-[
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"line drive" - sweet, looking forward to more baseball comparisons!
I'm sure every forum ever will have controversial characters who enjoy a kick off, and yes, even cricket bats can incite forum rages!
Incidentally, has anyone else ever accidentally visited our sister site, custombats.com?
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Yeah, what a waste of a domain name that is!!!