Custom Bats Cricket Forum
General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: espocrespo on August 17, 2010, 06:42:23 PM
-
Anyone know any good ways to improve timing
-
I would've thought timing would depend on the pace of the pitch?
-
Lots of high quality match speed practice, good quality net practice or match practice if you can
-
thing is the track i play on, is so slow, its hard to time the ball, unless you slog and completely swing through the ball, drives are almost impossible unless its a full toss because it is so slow
-
not sure but how about using a lighter bat? you would get into position earlier and be well set for the delivery
-
On any pitch, once you have the pace, play the ball under your eyes - keeping you eyes level
-
Rob Key says a higher backift gives you more time when playing shots, and also aids with timing. I would say try check driving shots and focus solely on timing and placement rather than scoring quickly and smashing the ball around.
-
i find closing my eyes helps
-
i agree with colesy, play the ball late under your eyes. and WATCH, THE, BALL!
-
we have same problem on are track.. its low and slow so ur playing shots up in the air off the back of the bat etc... my only advice is to play ur self in carfully take a few overs to get used to the peace of the track and then once ur comftable go nuts...
end of day if ur gonna flash FLASH HARD!
-
Best tip is just watch the ball closely, if you watch the professionals on tv you still see them talking to themself when the bowler is running in saying watch the ball, watch the ball. Also has your club got a portable net (one with wheels) just practice on the wicket so you get used to the pace, height etc. If not ask someone just to give you throwdowns and have a teamate in the covers were you can drive the ball and he fields it. Hope that helps!
-
I will give some more help on this tomorrow, but this falls into 2 questions -
1 - are your timing issues to do with one type of pitch (slow and low, tennis ball bouncing/popping, or hard and fast?)
2 - are your timing issues to do with all pitches?
-
you must get in to a good position early and watch the ball on to the bat, nothing else can help you
-
Buy a better bat with more ping, perhaps even pro ping then you will middle everything.
On a serious note, i dont reckon theres much you can do as it mainly relies on good hand eye co-ordination.
All the pros seem to suggest watching the ball out of the hand, not just the general area... would help i imagine.
Could be down to a technical flaw... impossible to tell though... a steady and level head should help.
-
one thing you can look into is using a bat with a lower middle.
-
Not if your hitting the ball too high up on the bat :-[
-
There is some really terrible advice on this - I can't quite believe some of the commentary.
If you aren't timing the ball this is for two reasons, part of it is down to your form and the second part is down to how much time you have spent at the crease, two things that are inextricably linked.
So firstly if you aren't timing the ball well, you are probably going for too many shots too early in your innings and trying to hit the ball to hard. The answer is simply to grind it out, get some singles, get off strike and get used to batting again. It takes about 20 mins or more of batting to really get your eye in and to get used to the pace of a pitch - which is usually 6-8 overs. As a rule of thumb then, on that basis, don't go for too many shots too early unless it is a rank bad ball. I appreciate if you are playing a 20 over slog fest, this isn't that helpful - but playing 50 over league cricket or a Sunday game take the time out, you will reap the benefits later on.
If the pitch is hard and fast you can typically go for your shots a bit earlier as the bounce will be truer, but if you are playing on a pudding then it will take you longer and the crucial thing is not to go hard at the ball early. If you are on a tennis ball bouncing pitch, then take the "on the up drive" and put it firmly in the locker for the day. Your scoring shots are more likely to be the pull for anything short and other back foot shots, unless the ball is really over pitched.
Another tip I use is early on to hold the bat only very gently with my bottom hand early on, to concentrate on hitting the ball along the ground.
Failing that buy a new super pinging pro bat for £700 which guarantees you a boundary even with your forward defencive shots. ;)
-
The Judge has spoken.......
-
While I am in session, I also want to mention the Rob Key comment about raising your backlift.
Burty Key is a known joker (fav trick is to cut the end of "mate's" socks - the old ones are always the best ones etc) this is him taking the preverbial. We are not all Brian Charles Lara.
If we were, this guy (below) would be the the finest player of his generation and not playing for the cayman islands...
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/perfectbacklift.jpg)
-
There is some really terrible advice on this - I can't quite believe some of the commentary.
If you aren't timing the ball this is for two reasons, part of it is down to your form and the second part is down to how much time you have spent at the crease, two things that are inextricably linked.
So firstly if you aren't timing the ball well, you are probably going for too many shots too early in your innings and trying to hit the ball to hard. The answer is simply to grind it out, get some singles, get off strike and get used to batting again. It takes about 20 mins or more of batting to really get your eye in and to get used to the pace of a pitch - which is usually 6-8 overs. As a rule of thumb then, on that basis, don't go for too many shots too early unless it is a rank bad ball. I appreciate if you are playing a 20 over slog fest, this isn't that helpful - but playing 50 over league cricket or a Sunday game take the time out, you will reap the benefits later on.
If the pitch is hard and fast you can typically go for your shots a bit earlier as the bounce will be truer, but if you are playing on a pudding then it will take you longer and the crucial thing is not to go hard at the ball early. If you are on a tennis ball bouncing pitch, then take the "on the up drive" and put it firmly in the locker for the day. Your scoring shots are more likely to be the pull for anything short and other back foot shots, unless the ball is really over pitched.
Another tip I use is early on to hold the bat only very gently with my bottom hand early on, to concentrate on hitting the ball along the ground.
Failing that buy a new super pinging pro bat for £700 which guarantees you a boundary even with your forward defencive shots. ;)
basically what i was trying to say inn short lol i recon most of the time im out in the 1st 2/3 overs im batting in becauase i go for big shots to early before im used to the track..
if i find my self not playing agressive shots for 3-4 overs i seem to score much more runs etc it is fustrating for an agresive bats man like me not to hit any boundries from the off but its a must if you want to build a decent ingings
-
Simmy, it is, afterall, quite hard to score a hundred when you are back in the pavillion after 1-2 overs...
perhaps not flashing or flashing hard might also be a good option... ;)
-
indeed.. i allways find grafting the 1st 20 runs is the hardest part but then when your in you can smash everything and usually comes off!
as im usually in the score quickly..
the times ive got 100 have been funny really because i have scored a 50 then im like right 50 up im just gonna go for it and just start hitting everything both times ive done this cos im seeing the ball like a beach ball i have just been middling everything and ened up with a few 100's because of it.
als with the flash hard thing..
i see so maybe people playing half shots early in there inngings and getting out because they have stopped mid shot or just gone for a little drive...
if your gonna go for a aggresive shot in the early part of your ingings @ least try and take the case of it at least then if you edge it chances are its still gonna be a scoring shot
-
atm i'd just be happy to get to 20, i just cant seem to get out of blocking mode.
-
Good form Buzz, loving the batting tips, absolutely spot on.
-
Read this quote from Sachin in the Evening Standard last night, he was giving advice to KP - but I think it is pretty good for every single batsman...
"Be relaxed, be calm and watch the ball as closely as possible because that is what a batsman is meant to do. The thought process has to be free flowing and that’s when you react and your body movement is not stiff and tight."
simple game really.
-
Read this quote from Sachin in the Evening Standard last night, he was giving advice to KP - but I think it is pretty good for ever single batsman...
"Be relaxed, be calm and watch the ball as closely as possible because that is what a batsman is meant to do. The thought process has to be free flowing and that’s when you react and your body movement is not stiff and tight."
simple game really.
Absolutely. Listen to the master. I've got my biggest scores when I've played sensibly, within my ability. Don't try and score quickly at the start of your innings, using the age old phrase "Get your eye in". As you get used to the pitch and the bowlers, then you can open up. That's why I hate batting low down the order. If I am at 6-7, then there's usually a good 10-15 overs left to play yourself in and work with the tail at the end of the innings when yuo can have a go.
-
to improve timing people play table tennis
it improves your hand eye coordination and timing......
-
Middling bat? Try and use a heavier net bat so your bat speed is great. Watch the ball right onto the bat is what I say.
-
that makes sense, i played alot of table tennis as a kid and i always scored runs as a youngster and now i seem to struggle may have to invest in a table tennis table
-
Middling bat? Try and use a heavier net bat so your bat speed is great. Watch the ball right onto the bat is what I say.
Johan, just wondering if you could enlighten me........ how would increased bat speed improve timing?
-
Woah my bad, I was barking up the wrong tree there...I don't think it'd help. :(
-
that makes sense, i played alot of table tennis as a kid and i always scored runs as a youngster and now i seem to struggle may have to invest in a table tennis table
failing that. Play some squash - I find that really helps too
-
failing that. Play some squash - I find that really helps too
Don't know about improving timing but it certainly helps hand eye co-ordination... From another squash player.
-
Don't know about improving timing but it certainly helps hand eye co-ordination... From another squash player.
sorry I should say that I play squash left handed and bat right handed, which is why it helps my timing! I briefly forgot that!
-
sorry I should say that I play squash left handed and bat right handed, which is why it helps my timing! I briefly forgot that!
Same, and for a while it did improve what timing I had! Probably shouldn't have stopped playing squash...
-
sorry I should say that I play squash left handed and bat right handed, which is why it helps my timing! I briefly forgot that!
now thats just showing off
-
I know this is basic but just wait as long as possible for the ball.