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Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: PunterPonting on September 16, 2010, 10:12:54 AM
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I'm looking at getting a large batch order of pads and gloves done for the Cambridge team, does anyone have contacts for soft goods in India/Pakistan who might be prepared to make the gloves and pads with the required colour scheme? It would be an order of 30-40 pads and gloves, but obviously they would need to be a seriously good quality gloves (pitards, maybe the shark tooth design) as otherwise the boys would probably just stick with their GN/Kooka gear.
Failing that, does anyone know vaguely where to start when developing a soft good range - for example Tom from Ayrtek where did you start developing your range (I do understand if you don't want to say!).
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Pen and paper mate was where I started out, plenty of soft good retailers will offer to make them for u but as u say it's about having a high quality product made. It's the shipping that will cost a fair chunk if ur looking at having them sent via air freight.
Are u looking at having ur own logos on the pads gloves? They may offer a stock design that they have as a company for u to use and simply but ur logo upon them. If ur looking to design th from scratch it takes time to sample/perfect the goods for which they would be looking to recover the costs of doing so by larger size volume orders beyond 30-40 units worth of pad/gloves etc I would think.
We were lucky as many manufacturers approached us to produce samples as a growing brand it's just a question of finding the correct one
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I use BAS(for pads) and SS(Gloves) for softs.
As ur order is around 40 pieces it will cost a lot of money if u ask the makers to make it from scratch. What u can do is have a look at their designs and modify a little to suit u. that way you will cut down the cost.
The other problem would be How busy these guys are as they have to stop their production to make different design of gloves in small number.
Regards
Asad
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Have either of you gentlemen (Talisman/Asad) had any chance to read my emails? How big an order would you need for custom softs?
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I will reply to ur email in the next 1-2 days
Regards
Asad
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They may screen print the logos for u but doubt they will emboss items for such a low order of goods. You would need to have an idea volume of goods as a MOQ to out to them to see if they are willing to make items for u
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Who makes softs for ayrtek?
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Used a few since we started but are very happy with the latest batch of goods
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Yes I was getting the impression that going to India for a week may be the easiest way around the whole issue! Short of ordering 100 pairs, I may just have to settle with plain softs, or at least generic softs, and then get someone to whack a logo on - but to be honest even sorting that out is seemingly quite complex!
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I'd be interested to know how many softs Newbery would order through-out a year, I'd presume a few hundred? Does anyone know who does theres?
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It's not as easy as everyone thinks I'm afraid! As I was telling someone yesterday u get hit win import vat and duty as well as having to get info such as applications for releasing the goods etc through customs.
The companies who produce high quality goods will be busy with orders due to this and a smaller one of order will take up time on the production line from these orders is obviously valuable to them
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Gus - have you tried Champ Sports at all? Mohit has a mixed reputation on here, but I've found his quality pretty good, and he may work with the quantities you are interested in.
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Long time no post from my perspective, but now that Uni is finished for the term I'm back trying to sort out these soft goods for Cambridge. Anyone got a contact? I spoke to various people last time with no much luck. All I need is some high-end blanks which I can get a logo on - preferably very plain traditional gloves and pads but top quality only, probably around 30 pairs of gloves, maybe 10 pairs of pads?
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try ur luck with online stockist....
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Have you used them before?
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Have you tried using www.alibaba.com (http://www.alibaba.com) to see what sort of quotes you get on the volumes you require? At least if you start there you'll have some idea of what to expect and you could talk to the guys on here about the various suppliers that have come back to you and whether they are worth using?
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Yes I've had a look on there before and to be honest all I need is gloves that I know are going to be top quality which I can't guarantee from there. They're going to be used by lads playing 2nd team and MCCU cricket against the counties - and all I really want is white gloves which are then labelled with my logo. I'm coming to realise its too complicated without contacts to get some from Asia when I only really want 40 pairs...so if I could just get some through someone in England (obviously paying a premium as a result) then that would be fine.
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Its bloody frustrating trying to get softs done as its almost impossible to find someone to do them for you via the internet, even if your ordering 40 pairs in a generic design. Its what economists call an insider-outsider problem, where those on the inside (eg established brands) have an incentive to stop others getting into the market, as by reducing information flows they are able to boost their prices above the market clearing level creating a monopoly, and excluding new brands (the outsiders). I only want to order 40 generic pairs of gloves - which I sure is a similar request to a few small brands (many small brands might order 150 pairs but of 3 different designs) - but am finding it virtually impossible to get anywhere with cheap embossed gloves...Anyway apologies for the rant. GK
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And by the way the problem with the insider outsider model is that the market doesn't clear properly, consumers lose out.
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Do you really expect a brand to say here's who makes our gear, here's his number and here's how you buy?
There's a couple of quality manufacturers already mentioned in this thread, do some research and buy from them instead of moaning because Gray Nicolls won't tell you who makes their gear and at what price it can be purchased.
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Come on Tom, you underestimate me - we've had a fair few dealings over the years and you should probably know that I'm not quite that naive. You're wrong if you think I haven't done a good amount of research, sent a fair number of emails and even called people...have a look at the gap between my last posts, most of which was spent trying to get in contact with people. I know with Itias you went to India, which is an option if I was really desperate...
And clearly I don't expect companies to say 'X makes our gear', but I wanted to express my frustration at the lack of clear ways into the Indian production side of the cricket market and wanted to see if anyone on the forum in the past had got a small number of pads + gloves done and could point me in the right direction without losing out themselves...
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Punter, getting things made in India is not easy. With Mongoose the gear turned up 8 weeks late, only 6 days before Christmas. You'll have hiccups along the way and if just getting a contact is difficult (they're all over the forum) then I'd not bother.
There's a lot of legwork involved and there's at least 3 reputable suppliers who have already been reccomended in this thread.
Start there or at one of the many Indian brands.
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No fair enough - you've had much more experience than me at this Tom, so I'm thankful for your thoughts. I'm sure with another concerted effort I'll be able to sort something out. As you say and as your experience with Mongoose suggests, getting gear from India is a bit of a nightmare I know - I just need to man up and get on with the hard yards of contacting more people. Thinking about it there could be a niche in the market for anyone who can import blank gear in various designs and then emboss or embroider it in the UK - I bet there would be a fair few suppliers who would take up the offer of sorting out gear through a UK based company!
Anyway thanks for your thoughts.
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Punter good point i like your thinking a distribution for the company's here very nice indeed..
It is cloak and dagger but give Champ a ring.email
http://www.champsports.co.in/champ-sports.htm
Mr. Mohit Jandial
Look at the softs here i know you possible know these
http://www.evolutioncricket.com/
a example of there softs