Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: uknsaunders on October 26, 2010, 05:12:17 PM
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just wondered if anyone has any knowledge on the following: -
is Kashmir willow and English willow nurtured in India the same thing?
how bad performance wise is kashmir compared to various grades of willow?
does Kashmir last as long as English willow?
does anyone have any positive experiences using Kashmir willow bats?
we all slag off Kashmir willow but I wondered what the reality is?
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Kashmir is the same as EWNI
Some Kashmir bats can be good some bad, this is because the best kashmir willow may be used for something like fruit packaging and you may get a really bad piece made into a bat. Its a lottery.
Kashmir willow will usually last as long as English Willow
My first bat was Kashmir and went fairly well, but would never use Kashmir again!
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It is not as good but is very cheap, some must be nice looking as I got fooled by one in India, many more get conned here on ebay.
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cheers guys. I was thinking of a backup bat for netting/T20, as I play alot of games and I'm down to 1 slightly cracked G2 bat for next season at present. Some of CJI bats seem to have good reviews and at throw away prices. Anyone had any experience of these?
Love to get a £150-200 bat but can't stretch that to at the moment thanks to the bloody teenagers :-(
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Yeah I have used a lot of CJI bats, let me know if you require any information.
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My school has a CJI set of bats. They're all very good and ping well, however seem to crack a bit easily...I suppose it depends on the price, though
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really anything you can tell me about the kashmir models - how would you grade the wood, ping, pickup, longevity,etc?
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http://www.cricket-stuff.co.uk/?p=213
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love google...for the crap it finds...
http://www.planetcricket.net/forums/your-cricket/english-kashmir-willow-42007.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1680250.ece
CJI's I was looking at:-
http://www.cjicricket.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_86&products_id=225
http://www.cjicricket.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_72&products_id=194
http://www.cjicricket.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_83&products_id=211
Ultimate I'm told is the better option. Any thoughta Hit4Six?
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Oh my GOD lol
Sachin and Dravid used Kashmir willow bats in the late 90's.
Kashmir willow is used to manufacture bats for the subcontinental players.
It is of a better quality.Now,you may ask how i can claim this...One of my friends is the owner of the compnay BDM. He told me.English willow is not so popular,esp in the subcontinent.
Prominent players who use Kash willow-Tendulkar,Yunus Khan,I ul Haq.
I use Kashmir willow cos I get my bat custom made by manufacturer in Jallandhar. I dont need to know what English willow does. I can tell you my bat wiegs feather and ball goes like bullet off it.
The Times article:
He is one of a team of 22 scientists who have roamed the Kashmir Valley in search of Silex alba coerulea
Sound business model from the indian guy who owns a "small bat factory" - sells bats for less than clefts?!:
In an average year they produce 30,000 clefts, selling them for the equivalent of £36 apiece, and about 10,000 finished bats, which they sell for between 70p and £30.
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LMAO
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yes kashmir willow & EWNI are same....EWNI is generally blemish/Knot free kashmir willow and comparatively light weight....i guess one should use a Lower grade 3-4 English willow bat rather then using a 35-40 Quid Kashmir willow bat...if u search around then u will easily get Englsh Willow bats in less then 50 Quids which are quite better then going for EWNI....
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I always wonder that do KW's have grains like EW?
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Some do but they are harder to see
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tempted by the CJI 5000 Ultimate - they say they hand pick the best 30 out of 100 clefts, so it ought to be better than most. That said £35 (ebay) posted is getting dangerously towards english willow refurb/G4/G5 territory. Sort of thinking about it as an experiment that I can report back to the forum about. ie. grains, ping, pickup etc. If the thing proves to be decent and more than a net/t20 bat then it's a bonus.
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tempted by the CJI 5000 Ultimate - they say they hand pick the best 30 out of 100 clefts, so it ought to be better than most. That said £35 (ebay) posted is getting dangerously towards english willow refurb/G4/G5 territory. Sort of thinking about it as an experiment that I can report back to the forum about. ie. grains, ping, pickup etc. If the thing proves to be decent and more than a net/t20 bat then it's a bonus.
I bought a CJI Sumo LE that stayed with me for two hours before it went back because they had given me the wrong weight. The bats themselves seem to be alright, but unless you are getting one of the cheap ones, it's really not worth getting the more expensive Kashmir willow bats from them.
Off the mallet, the Sumo LE really wasn't as good as the Xiphos, and the Sumo is supposed to have a huge middle, and weighed the same.
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Does anyone know where I can get kashmir part mades? Contacted CJI but are sold out and aren't getting any more in stock?
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I have one Dan mate, can do it for £22 posted.
If you fancy an albion duffle can include that and the kashmir part made for £35 posted.
Kashmir part made, is pressed and handled and shoulders are cut. Has 22 straight grains
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Will pm you later tonight Leo on the phone at the moment and its nearly impossible 2 send pms :(