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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: ianbuchanan on November 16, 2010, 09:25:39 AM
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Only 88 off the record now at tea, on 313. Can he break the test record in the last session?!?!
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He's seeing them alright.
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Let's hope so!
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Going for it now as he is injured but let's hope he gets close
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Guess Ihsan won't be making a 333. Stuart Surridge already have that trademarked...
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He has joined Gooch in the very exclusive 333 club!!
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Gutted! I was backing him to break the record :( :(
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Newbery?
(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/124500/124525.jpg)
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hammer edge?
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Gun of a bat??
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Masuri??? :D
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Red grip???
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How many grips??:D
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2 or 3 i'd say....
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2 or 3 thick spiral I would say if chevron then 4+ would be my guess. These guys have BIG hands
I remember one guy was telling me he met Lyold and saw his bat and he had around 6 grips!
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Quite glad Gayle didn't break Lara's record. Gayle isn't in Lara's league and it would've devalued the highest score in Test history.
None the less a fabulous innings.
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Can't say I agree Jeet, 400 is 400. And Lara scored his on even more of a road in Antigua. To say that someone cannot break a record because they are not in the league as someone else is elitist and makes no real sense. Records are made to be broken.
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Its unfair to say that Jeet. Gayle has just shown the world that he is up there with the worlds leading batsmen and anyone that can bat for that long deserves to break test records
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Can't say I agree Jeet, 400 is 400. And Lara scored his on even more of a road in Antigua. To say that someone cannot break a record because they are not in the league as someone else is elitist and makes no real sense. Records are made to be broken.
I may not have put it properly, but for example Hayden's 380 was less memorable than Lara's 400. Both pitches where roads, but England still had a decent bowling attack Harmo, Jones, Hoggard had tormented the Windies in the previous 3 Tests. Records should belong to the best players, not the lower tier players.
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Its unfair to say that Jeet. Gayle has just shown the world that he is up there with the worlds leading batsmen and anyone that can bat for that long deserves to break test records
There's a reason why Gayle averages 43 and Lara averaged 53. Lara was miles better than Gayle.
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England had one G. Batty. He couldn't turn it in Galle.
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Averages mean nothing
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And Lara's 153* to beat Australia at Bridgetown by himself was infinitely more memorable
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To be fair, Lara was heaps better than Gayle.
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Averages mean nothing
Consistency makes you a great player, I'd rather someone score 5 scores of a 100, rather than another go out and flog 500 in one dig.
England had one G. Batty. He couldn't turn it in Galle.
I'm sure the 3 seamers plus Freddie would bowled better than Prasad and Thusara...
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I may not have put it properly, but for example Hayden's 380 was less memorable than Lara's 400. Both pitches where roads, but England still had a decent bowling attack Harmo, Jones, Hoggard had tormented the Windies in the previous 3 Tests. Records should belong to the best players, not the lower tier players.
That's crap mate and you know it. Anybody that breaks a record like that is certainly not a lower tier player, and Gayle is prime example of that. A man who takes apart a bowler that completely dumbfounded the so called 'best batting line-up in the world' of the Indians is worthy of breaking the record. I mean I don't know if you noticed but the WI line-up folded like a pack of cards after Gayle's departure. Who's to say they wouldn't have done that if he'd got out for 33? They could have been staring at 250 all out. But thanks to Gayle's magnificent innings (and not his first triple ton, which shows that it isn't a fluke, and that he is most certainly NOT a lower tier player), they are 500+ runs to the good. Point made I think.
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Gayle is also only 1 of 4 batsmen to score 300+ twice
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Gayle is also only 1 of 4 batsmen to score 300+ twice
Bradman, lara and shewag????
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Sehwag
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That's what i said lol
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You changed your post because you had Bradman, lara and.....?
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That's crap mate and you know it. Anybody that breaks a record like that is certainly not a lower tier player, and Gayle is prime example of that. A man who takes apart a bowler that completely dumbfounded the so called 'best batting line-up in the world' of the Indians is worthy of breaking the record. I mean I don't know if you noticed but the WI line-up folded like a pack of cards after Gayle's departure. Who's to say they wouldn't have done that if he'd got out for 33? They could have been staring at 250 all out. But thanks to Gayle's magnificent innings (and not his first triple ton, which shows that it isn't a fluke, and that he is most certainly NOT a lower tier player), they are 500+ runs to the good. Point made I think.
Whether the Windies would've been rolled had Gayle fallen early is unknown, their premier batsman(Chanderpaul) may have saved them for the umpteenth time.
With regards to the Galle pitch, it is it known to deteriorate fairly rapidly, therefore once the Lankans found an opening, they where likely to run through the Windies line up - as they struggle vs spin(barring Chanderpaul).
Regarding Mendis, he got the better of India once, since then India has destroyed him. Comparing Mendis of 2008 to Mendis of the last 18 months is two different animals. Mendis in 2008 vs India 28 wickets @ 18. Mendis vs India post debut series, 8 wickets @ 63. I think I've proved my point.
The Mendis of 2008 would've schooled Gayle.
Gayle isn't in the same league as the other members of the multiple 300 club.
The Sri Lankan attack was also pretty inexperienced, under 50 caps between the four frontline bowlers.
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You changed your post because you had Bradman, lara and.....?
I know ;)
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Aakash Chopra again.
Here is the definitive argument to ditch the trigger...
The styles of Gayle and Sehwag
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/515437.html
The two opening batsmen have more in common than just their placid demeanours and astronomical strike rates
By keeping still till the ball is delivered, Sehwag and Gayle give themselves more options in terms of strokes
A poll on a social-networking site recently declared Chris Gayle a far more destructive batsman than Virender Sehwag. When Gayle arrived in the Royal Challengers Bangalore camp last month, their two-year purple patch in the IPL had been crushed and the team were preparing for a premature exit. When Sehwag joined a depleted Delhi Daredevils, little did he know that he would have to single-handedly steer his team through his time in this IPL.
But while Gayle's first-game heroics battered the Kolkata Knight Riders, Sehwag's ferocious intent couldn't do much to change Delhi's kismet. Unlike Gayle, who had Virat Kohli and AB de Villers to back his explosive style, Sehwag didn't have a strong batting line-up supporting him. Delhi won each time Sehwag clicked but it didn't happen often enough.
Though Gayle and Sehwag are both big-hitters, match-winners, and brutal on all bowling attacks, you wouldn't quite think their batting styles are comparable. Let's give it a shot, though.
Footwork
Most batsmen have a trigger movement before the bowler delivers the ball. It could be a slight shuffle across, a small press or something else that helps you get moving before the ball is delivered, which in turn helps you get into position quickly. But both Gayle and Sehwag stay completely still till as late as possible before a delivery.
The quicker the bowler, the more crucial these movements, for you don't want to be late for the ball. But these movements can also give away a batsman's preferences in terms of strokes and scoring areas. For instance, if he goes back and across, chances are he's looking for a full ball and transferring his weight on to the back leg. The only movement from that position will be a forward press. Likewise, if he plants his foot in front, he prefers short-pitched deliveries.
But these apply only to lesser mortals; great batsmen can do without. Both Gayle and Sehwag move only when the ball leaves the hand of the bowler, and hence give nothing away. In fact, even when they do move, their movements are restricted to the minimum.
The lack of foot movement may have its pitfalls but their quick hands make up. When you can't reach the delivery with your feet, the chances of missing it increase, but both these batsmen have mastered the art of throwing their arms at the ball. And the minimal movement ensures they rarely find themselves in awkward positions that might lead to their playing off-position shots.
Sharp eyes
Gayle's and Sehwag's batting seems to be based on the simple technique of see ball, hit ball. This approach can only be effective if you do the first part right. While most good players pick the line and length quickly, what separates these two from the rest is their ability to pick slower balls and other variations with ease. Love Ablish, the Kings XI Punjab medium-pacer, changes his pace and disguises his deliveries well, but he couldn't fox Gayle who delayed his downswing a fraction to send the ball over the ropes.
Ashish Nehra once told me that there are only two batsmen in the Indian team, Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag, who, when countering sudden changes in pace, don't turn their aggressive stroke into a defensive prod. Instead they wait a fraction longer and at times even convert a defensive prod into a lofted drive. Most batsmen would be too early on the shot while facing a well-disguised slower one, but not these two.
Hitting from the crease
What makes Gayle and Sehwag even more dangerous is that they don't need to go down the track or generate bbody momentum to send a spinner for six. While Gayle prefers to give the fast bowlers the charge every now and then, like Sehwag he stays put in the crease when facing spinners. Both trust the downswing in their back-lifts to generate enough power, and it rarely ever fails them.
Astute brains
Since their batting looks simple and uncomplicated, most people discount the tactical shrewdness of these two. If the ball moves prodigiously at the start, they are happy to bide time. Even in Twenty20 games, like they did against Punjab and Deccan Chargers respectively, where they allowed the early swing to fade away before exploding.
Gayle and Sehwag always target certain bowlers in the opposition and play strokes that may look ambitious but are percentage shots. They also trick bowlers by wildly heaving at and missing deliveries intentionally. Once, in a domestic game on a poor surface, Sehwag stepped down the track and played a rather ambitious shot, only to miss the ball by a mile. It looked suicidal but he had a plan in mind. He charged the bowler because he wanted to force him to shorten his length, which he did the following ball, to be dispatched to the fence. Gayle does the same against many quick bowlers only to sit deep inside the crease on the following ball. There are astute cricket brains working behind those rather calm facades.
Both Gayle and Sehwag may have two Test triple-centuries to their names, but their recent performances in Twenty20 have been just as pleasurable to watch. Unless, of course, you are the hapless prey in their sights.
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good read cheers buz!
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Yer good read passed the time nicely
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very good read, cheers.
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They also trick bowlers by wildly heaving at and missing deliveries intentionally. Once, in a domestic game on a poor surface, Sehwag stepped down the track and played a rather ambitious shot, only to miss the ball by a mile. It looked suicidal but he had a plan in mind. He charged the bowler because he wanted to force him to shorten his length, which he did the following ball, to be dispatched to the fence. Gayle does the same against many quick bowlers only to sit deep inside the crease on the following ball. There are astute cricket brains working behind those rather calm facades.
Find that very hard to believe!
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You cant compaire Gayle to Lara....... Lara is an ALLTIME Great up there with Bradman Tendulkar and Hutton, Gayle is a great present day player but that is all!
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Anyone watching currently? 33 from 12! Amazing! Apparently using a 4lb bat!
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That's just the commentators more like 3lb
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Agreed, but does look a nice chunk!
Just think if someone batted like he is there at our level they would be told to work on their technique!
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That's because English coaches don't like anything that's not text book they mess with anything that isn't just look at kp etc the windies just let gayle develop but we say no you need to change
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Perfect cricket watching attire:
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/ChrisGayle.jpg)
What a legend.
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/Chris-Gayle-looks-good-007.jpg)
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Id like to see him get a lid on that Afro.
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Is that defo him?
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Is that one of the Bravo brothers too?
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isnt that jerome taylor?
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isnt that jerome taylor?
Yup. Recognised the face, couldn't work out where from!