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Archived Posts => Archive => Ashes 2010 => Topic started by: tim2000s on December 07, 2010, 10:11:23 AM
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As widely noticed, dodgy left arm spinners and poor batting form, not too mention not much pace in the "pace" attack have caused a few issues.
If you were the selectors, with the benefit of hindsight, what would your starting 11 for the series have been?
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David Hussey should get selected ahead of North - I wouldn't be picking Hughes, but it appears he is a nailed on certainty. I also wouldn't pick Steve Smith as a specialist spinner, he will get masachered - they have to pick Hauritz, but Ponting hates him... Bowling wise - Siddle and Harris play - Hilfenhaus will be back too.
So glad we don't have these issues...
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The problem is that the current state of Australian cricket is the selectors fault.
Having won the past 3 world cups and dominating world cricket for at least 10 years the selectors have been caught napping while that talent pool was tapering off
There are players in local cricket that would be a hell of a lot competitive than this Australian XI namely Brad Hodge and David Hussey just to name a few but the selectors will not entertain this nor Ricky Ponting the arrogant little rat.
So my prediction of an England win 6 months ago by 3-1 looks pretty safe.
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Cameron White would come in for North & Hauritz in for Doherty if I were them.
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Merv Hughes must have a smirk on his face in quiet moments.
A lot of peopl thik Clarke shoudl play and wonder with Nathan Bracken does not play.
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Out - Katich, North, Doherty, Bollinger and Siddle.
In - Hughes, White, Cameron, Copeland and Stuart Clark.
Punter has no faith in any spinner, so Stuart Clark would do the containing job. Cameron adds firepower. Copeland is statistically the best bowler in OZ
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Would be good to hear any Aussie opinions to see if there are any players out there pushing the current xi as they are not cutting it
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whats the name of the young seamer thats played a couple of odi's for Aus??? thought he was supposed to be a rising star? why not give him a go...
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Out - Katich
In - Hodge (to open, dont give Swanny another lefty!)
Out - Doherty
In - not so sure, how has Beau Casson done this season? Or pick another batsman (Hussey) and use Clarke and North as the spin option.
Ideally, get Shane out of retirement and bring back Gilly
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Josh Hazelwood?
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yes that it! good enough yet?
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The reason they will not picjk that young seamer is that he bowls inaccurate balls at mid seventies.
He is (No Swearing Please)
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Bit harsh he was mentioned as the next great hope for aus that's why he was brought up
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i didnt think he looked that bad.... granted he may not bowl 90mph. but i doubt he would weaken the aussie bowling attack
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Hazlewood has only just returned from stress fractures on his back, coupled with he's only played 6 F/C games, so he'd be a wildcard.
More likely selection would be Mitchell Starc, but he has a side strain.
The woes of Oz lol
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This is an absolute wild move, but 2 years ago they took a risk with bringing Watson in to open the batting, so how about move North up to open the innings as he prefers pace on the ball, in place of Katich who is injured. Steve Smith in for Doherty to add the wrist spinner option to the side, and will also shorten the ridiculously long tail as he is more than a handy batsman! And personally I would get rid of Boring Boring Bollinger and bring in someone lively like Shaun Tait or someone else with pace as Perth is famous for being a quick pitch and could cause some damage... And as for another batsman I think they need someone with experience, White, D Hussey, Jacques, Rogers??
So my wildcard line-up would be:
1.Watson
2.North
3.Ponting
4.Clarke
5.Hussey
6.White
7.Haddin
8.Smith
9.Harris
10.Siddle
11.Tait
Any Thoughts????
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Tait has retired from Test cricket, so is a definite no.
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Chris Rogers/phil jacques would be the right lad to open with watson
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In my opionion this the the best aussie team
Rogers
Watson
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Cosgrove
Haddin
Hauritz
Harris
Hilfenhaus
Clark
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In my opionion this the the best aussie team
Rogers
Watson
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Cosgrove
Haddin
Hauritz
Harris
Hilfenhaus
Clark
God that's an awful side. Rogers out, Phil Jacques in. Cosgrove out, Brad Hodge in. M Clarke out, Khawaja in. Clark and Hilfenhaus out, Copeland and, well, Chris Swan or Mark Cameron in.
Jacques
Watson
Ponting
Khawaja
Hussey
Hodge
Haddin
Hauritz
Copeland
Cameron
Harris
Going on form men (and Ponting), that's probably the best you'll find...
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How is Jacques in form when he has an average of 22.88 in domestic first class cricket this year? Hodge is retired from first class cricket and handing out 3 caps isnt the answer.
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I don't think there is an answer - the team picked for Adelaide, was probably near the best Oz have Doherty out and Hauritz in, but whether that gets past Punter I'm not sure
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1 Watson
2 North
3 Ponting
4 Clarke
5 Hussey
6 Smith
7 Haddin
8 Hauritz
9 Johnson
10 Hauritz
11 Cameron/Starc
North like pace on the ball so he can open to replace Katich.
Smith has just taken 4 wickets and is plenty good enough to bat at 6 with Haddin at 7 or the other way round.
Hauritz much better than Doherty
Johnson I know he had a poor test but he does have the ability to be good and the aussies have nothing to loose anymore.
I've seen very little of both of these bowlers but from what I have seen they both look better prospects than Bollinger, Hilfinhaus and Siddle.
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How is Jacques in form when he has an average of 22.88 in domestic first class cricket this year? Hodge is retired from first class cricket and handing out 3 caps isnt the answer.
A shake-up is exactly what's needed. Aussie players need to be reminded that they cannot rest on their laurels and rely on past glories. Only Hussey and Watson from the batsmen, and Harris from the bowlers have done enough to hang around, and Hussey's only just found his form. Watson is the first, and only dead cert name on the team-sheet for me!
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I suspect the team may be:
1 Watson
2 Hughes
3 Ponting
4 Clarke
5 Hussey
6 Ferguson or White
7 Haddin
8 Smith
9 Harris
10 Bollinger
11 Siddle
Aren't England playing Victoria this week? If White scores runs he may sneak in.
I wouldn't rule out a return for Hilfenhaus & Johnson either.
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There is still a part of me that thinks England will blow this series sand end up getting beat, I think it's because I have seen England fail so often in my lifetime and the Aussies fight back so hard.
However I'd rather be an England fan right now than an Aussie one!
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my team is a bit left wing but i think it may work !
1 Watson
2 Haddin
3 Ponting
4 Clarke
5 M.Hussey
6 D Hussey
7 White
8 Smith
9 Harris
10 Hilfenhaus
11 Siddle
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Woulden't agree with that ^ , no wickettaking spinner, although i suspect hussey/white/smith coulden't possibly bowl worse than Doherty.
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1. Watson
2. Hughes
3. Ponting
4. Clarke
5. Hussey
6. Marsh
7. Haddin
8. Smith
9. Siddle
10. Harris
11. Hilfenhous
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I think their batting is still strong and will copme good if given time (from that point of view it's unfortunate for them Katich is injured), so I imagine they'll pick a new opener (Hughes?) and possibly a replacement for North too.
Bowling wise their all over the place, I think they probablly need to pick 4 seamers (plus Watson) and just make do with batsmen who bowl on the spinner front, as they don't have anyone (with the possible exception of Hauritz) worth a place in the 11.
I'd go for
Watson
Hughes
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
North/Khawaja/Ferguson/Smith
Haddin
Harris
Siddle
Then two from Hauritz/Hilfenhaus/George/Copeland/Clark etc depending on form and the wicket.
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well you have to give smith a chance as it seams the aussies really like him and white could probs sneak a couple of wickets !
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I would bring hughes in for katich. So england would then bring in Tremlett!
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Hughes for Katich,since Katich is injured Hughes is the best option in my opinion.
Khawaja for North. North has been a failure throughout his career so far. He is really good solid batsman but he jsut isnt successful. In the recently conlcuded test he first time in his career made 20+ score in both innings. I am not sure if he has strong back or what but Australian selectors are not one who select under form batsman over and over again.
Johnson for Harris. experienced and deadly. He just needs some time. plus pitch in WACA will be very fast so Johsnon is a must
Hauritz for Doherty, believe in hauritz and that guy is a good player. If needed he can also bat and chip in valuable runs.
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i would slide Ponting up to open and replace Katich with Khawaja or White
then i would drop Doherty and put in Hauritz and drop Bollinger and replace him with either Pattinson/Cameron
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i would slide Ponting up to open and replace Katich with Khawaja or White
then i would drop Doherty and put in Hauritz and drop Bollinger and replace him with either Pattinson/Cameron
Ponting to open?!? Asif..
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well he has been doing it recently the way they've been playing hahaha
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And he's been failing recently..
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yeah i reckon they will consider punter out after the ashes if they loose.
i really dont rate clarke, he has really dropped in class imo
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I would ask the Perth groundsman to create the greenest wicket possible, play 4 seamers by dropping Doherty for Mark Cameron who has been superb this season for NSW, bowling average of 11!
Drop North. The lad is suffering now, and cannot be exposed anymore at this level. As good a murderer of State sides that he is (a la Ramps), against the Worlds best simply cannot cope. Bring in Khawaja from NSW who is averaging 70+ this season.
The final decision is the most difficult. Who should replace Katich? Common sense says Hughes as he has been the man waiting in the wings, however his form has not set the world on fire. It would be a wildcard, but move Hussey to open the batting with Watson, who has done this before and bring in Cameron White, who scored a 100 against England XI for Aus A.
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good calls from you choppy :)
i think thats exactly what they should do.
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All suggestions are valid and equate to common sense unfortunately something the Australian selectors lack.
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wes robinson to open the batting, used to play at my club
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I also agree with choppy :) sounds good mate.
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big runs from Hauritz today 126*, really giving his chances a push :D